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Urethral Sounds… - 9/20/2006 11:52:22 AM   
Bearlee


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Urethral Sounds…
 
I was talking to a friend today and ‘sounds’ came up.  Of course, I’ve experienced them before; a time or two.  However, He was talking about her urethra being big enough now for nearly three fingers!  THREE  FINGERS?
 
Is this the so-called ‘other hole’, then?  He made noises like He likes to try to fuck her there…OMG!  Really?
 
He said it takes time, of course one does start small…but gradually stretches said parts.  Sheeshhhhhhhhh…who knew?
 
I’d like to hear other’s experience with stretching the urethra and if they’ve ever gotten to ‘three fingers’?  ( omg )  And…are there medical consequences?  Ya know, I’m kinda leery of too many enemas for fear my breakfast will one day just fall straight through; what about the urethra opening…is the urinary sphincter far enough back to keep ya from dribbling pee all day?  As you can see…I have no idea (but just the thought…)
 
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RE: Urethral Sounds… - 9/20/2006 12:43:17 PM   
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Okay...just read an article on a website I greatly respect:  http://www.medicaltoys.com/lib-soundplay.htm
 
But...who knew there are different sounds for men & women???  I've never heard that!  Is it the case...that you shouldn't use one on the other?
 
A search on this site also produced another thread that including something regarding stretching and urethral fucking.  Any experience with this, either?  http://www.collarchat.com/m_168103/mpage_1/key_urethral%252Csounds/tm.htm#168487
 
Thanks again...
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RE: Urethral Sounds… - 9/20/2006 4:22:01 PM   
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Hi bearlee,
Since you requested that I comment on this topic, I'll mention a few points to consider.

Using urethral sounds is not inherently bad IF the sounds are sterile (NOT just cleaned with germicidal solutions).  They have a valid use to remove urethral strictures caused by infection &/or trauma & can be temporarily helpful in dealing with prostatic hypertrophy.  In these uses, sounds are utilized to re-establish a diameter of the urethra that is functional in draining urine.  Any larger diameter has no physiological advantage.

Urethral sounds (all that I am acquainted with) are metalic, ergo make an excellent method of electrical stimulation to the male prostate ... for electrical play (using EMS).  Of course, this provides only 1 of the 2 necessary electrodes ... the 2nd electrode must present an approximately equal surface area -- slightly skewing the relative sizes allows the stimulation to be felt more on the smaller electrode.  AND AGAIN, even in electrical play, urethral sounds MUST be sterile and inserted using sterile technique.  This means the person doing the procedure MUST be educated in the proper application of STERILE technique ... and must KNOW the difference between Clean Technique vs Sterile Technique.

Urethral anatomy is significantly different between males & females ... most obviously in the length of the urethra.  Because of this alone, women are prone to more frequent urinary tract infections than men; the male urethra provides more length to fight off intruding bacteria.

Excessive dilatation of the urethra has the inherent potential of  stretching the 2 sphincter muscles beyond their elastic limit.  A single such insult will probably heal, but repetitive trauma of this nature will invariably lead to chronic urinary incontinence.  We'll all be wearing Depends soon enough ... do you really wanna rush it?

The stop-gap solution for urinary incontinence of this nature would be a catheter, which  invariably becomes host to a bacterial film which will eventually colonize the urinary tract AND are resistant to antibiotics (according to recent research on bacterial films).

Ok ... next point is insertion of inordinantly large things into the urethra.  While a small percentage of males get into this, they still have the advantage of a longer urethra to fight off intrusive bacteria.  This does NOT protect males from a finger inserted all the way to the bladder, but it remains a somewhat functional protection if the dilatation does not go past the shaft of the penis.  Extreme dilation of the female urethra, such as with a finger or penis is stupid, stupid, stupid.  1) Urinary incontinence is almost inevitable, 2) bare skin inserted into the bladder conveys myriads of bacteria & guarantees bacterial colonization and probably a UTI. 

I will qualify the last statement somewhat: Electrical stimulation of the sphincter muscles MIGHT rehabilitate them to be functional even after stretching.  This might be more functional IF done for the entire prolonged duration of the dilatation "training."  Id est, it is less likely to be successful if one waits til the urethra is stretched large enough to accept a penis ... but if one starts using electrical stimulation to strengthen the sphincters (both of them) after each successively larger dilatation, then one MIGHT be able to grow & strengthen the sphincters at the same time.  This ONLY addresses the point of incontinence ... NOT the risk of infection related to this activity.

Since MRSA, VRE & other antibiotic resistant bacteria are now "wild" in the general population, and VRSA isn't far behind ... these could be on the skin that gets inserted ... the chances of curing a bacterial infection with antibiotics is becoming more difficult, and might be impossible (people DO die of toxic shock on a daily basis).  And, let's not forget, they'll bill you for 1or 2 weeks of your salary for every day you spend in the hospital!  (You say that you've wrapped it?  Well folks, those latex gloves & condoms have pinhole leaks that are like barndoors for bacteria.  Don't bet your life on 'em.  (Besides, more & more folks are becoming allergic to latex.)

You may enjoy things in your urethra, and maybe even being tied down.  We can accommodate both desires in the hospital.  But, you may also be swollen up like West Texas roadkill in the noonday sun, in extreme pain, on a ventilator ... and we'll be talking to your relatives about a "Do No Resuscitate" order.  AND, if you enjoy being helplessly tortured, our default is to keep you alive at all costs & no matter how much it hurts you ... which means we can drag out your painful death for weeks, sometimes months. 

Finally, even using sterile techniques with sounds & Foleys, bacteria of some sort are ALWAYS shoved into the bladder ... you cannot sterilize the distal urethra.  After any & all urethral procedures, you should always assume that bacteria have been shoved into the bladder & make them unwelcome.  Bacteria that thrive in the urinary tract are those which like the pH of the environment ... so a simple prevention is to drink large volumes of fluids especially those which promote a more acidic environment, most notably cranberry juice.  I'm not talking about a glass of cranberry juice ... I'm talking about at least a gallon a day. This both changes the environment to a hostile pH AND provides a flow of urine making germs in the urinary tract feel like you trying to swim upstream in the Colorado River during the spring thaw.

The best way I know of "forcing fluids" is to fill a LARGE coffee cup with cranberry juice & chug it down.  Refill the cup & sip on it frequently til it's gone.  Immediately refill the cup & chug it down.  Then refill it & sip til it's gone ... etc.  In between, you can be drinking water.  If you are doing it right, you'll be peeing at least every 30 minutes.  Do NOT drink citrus juices, they make your urine more alkaline.  Vitamin C will also acidify your urine and can be taken in large quantities IF you drink lots of fluids.  If you drink only moderate amounts of fluids, large doses of Vitamin C will cause kidney stones.  Niacin will also acidify the urine very slightly.

Colloidal silver is helpful in some infections BUT research has shown that bacteria are getting used to colloidal silver just like they got used to antibiotics.  Taking small daily doses of colloidal silver only helps the germs get used to it in their diet.  Taking large daily prophylactic doses of colloidal silver will give you argyrosis (argyria).  So colloidal silver should only be taken in response to an infection, in large enough doses & enough duration to kill the infection (7-10 or maybe even 14 days), and then stopped.

Ok ... I may have missed some important aspect of this topic ... but I had my whack at it.  Hope it's helpful & some will pay attention to it.  I'm all for kinky play, but within limits that are safe & healthy for the sub/slave as well as the Dom/me.  I can inflict pain on a maso sub for hours ... but when I'm done, she won't be looking for a kidney transplant.  I'll add ... a sub/slave who is playing at this level better make sure that the Dom/me can define clean technique, sterile technique AND can demonstrate that s/he actually practices it. 




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RE: Urethral Sounds… - 9/20/2006 8:40:58 PM   
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DomDoc
Excellent information. Thank you.

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RE: Urethral Sounds… - 9/21/2006 2:38:25 AM   
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Doc's covered all of my usual advisories about insertional play.  As a transplant coordinator who deals quite a bit with kidneys, I cringe to think of these folks as my potential patients because of misinformation, careless play, or just plain stupidity.

I cannot fathom why any woman would want to have her urethra stretched that much, nor why any other person would allow such irresponsibility to occur.  Your urethra is SHORT.  It's built the way it is to protect your body from pathogens.  It is not meant to have foreign objects inserted into it, including the catheters and other things that we hospital-types put in there temporarily.  It is meant to be a sterile system to the body itself.  The urethra scars easily, and does not "heal itself" well nor regenerate.  And beyond all of that -- the mere fact that the dilation of the ureteral sphincters causes such lack of tone as to cause urinary incontinence.....it's just....well.....nuts.




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RE: Urethral Sounds… - 9/21/2006 6:00:18 AM   
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Wow...
 
Thank you BOTH so much!  I have been talking to an online pal for some three years.  We do not delude ourselves into thinking we have a D/s relationship...nor do we do any kind of play; we've never met and probably won't.  But he's a bright, interesting guy whose chat I enjoy from time to time.  At any rate, he recently told me he's been stretching his girls' (yes two) urethra's for years and now at least one can accommodate three fingers?  I was too shocked to ask finger 'tips' or three whole fingers...as he went on to say they're interested in him fucking her there.  sheeshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh was all I could say.
 
Okay, I have had sounds used on me and loved it; but I was in no way 'stretched' and yes, my friend gets his training from another friend of ours...an acupuncturist who, I'm guessing, knows plenty about STERILE.  (While the pics I've seen of needle play seldom show yellow disinfectant smeared on the body nor gloved hands handling the needles; mine do).  Still, I appreciate all the information here, not only about infection but also about the hazards of actually stretching that part of the body.  Personally...from an esthetics point of view, I don't think I'd be interested in my urethral opening becoming gaping enough for three fingers...depends or no!!!
 
Thank you both again for such illuminating information! 
 
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RE: Urethral Sounds… - 9/21/2006 7:31:43 AM   
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I heartily concuur with the prudence theory. Or how about the other theory of try everything you wish to do on your ward, on  yourself first...just to understand what happens and how it feels. Many people in all walks of life think of their bodies as playgrounds more than temples. Well, playground equiptment wears out when abused...the only difference is we can't replace ours when this happens.  As Archer (I believe wrote in a post relating to: just because you can, doesn't mean you should.) :
Do you drive your car without oil in it? While you have the right to do so that does not make it smart.

Same applies to any property, they all have limits of some sorts, Cars don't fly, Planes don't float, Hammers make lousy Pillows and vise versa. If you insist on using a piece of property in a manner beyond it's limits you are responsible for the damage.

 
Does this mean that fucking ear cannals or nostrils is next? (talk about a mind fuck) Oh and dont forget about those pesky tear ducts that are oh so sexy...and self lubricating.  How many people would be outraged if this person just liked tight orfices and wanted to have sex with a cat or rabbitt? A child?
Being deviantly creative can become a dangerous hobby...for there truly is no end to the aftermath that can unwittingly ( or knowingly) occur.
Again...I see things far too often from the perspective of things gone too far and thing gone bad. BDSM is not in competition with JACKASS, any similarities are purely coincidental and will be denied by the guilty.
Read the Doc's post again...it is a real honest vision.

Play safe, smart, and pay your insurance premiums.

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RE: Urethral Sounds… - 9/21/2006 7:54:24 AM   
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Well, life is risk and WIITWD riskier, perhaps.  The male Dominant who used sounds on me does know STERILE and, ((with another (separate) sound)) showed me how they work and that they do not 'hurt' as they go in.  He casually dropped one down his penis and showed me how one can actually masturbate a male while the sound is there; albeit carefully.
 
What I gather from the good Doctor is that this kind of play, like much of what we do…CAN be risky, but risk is minimized if safety is considered and followed…though the ‘stretching’ part I asked about probably has more consequences than I’m willing to bet on the activity. 
 
Again…I really appreciate this information; thank you all, once again!
 
beverly

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RE: Urethral Sounds… - 9/21/2006 8:55:20 AM   
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It is a challenge to not focus on the doom and gloom aspect of too far/ too much. But so often "I just want to put the tip in..." goes well farther than either had planned.  From the life in general book; wretched excess is a disease of non satiation. It does not always have to be about more. Just look what happened to Goldilocks...all she could do was grin and mmm bear it.

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RE: Urethral Sounds… - 9/21/2006 9:18:38 AM   
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"...just the tip in..." ???  Of what?  I'm not talking fingers or penis here; I'm back to a sterile sound only.  Surely that's okay...with all the caviats regarding stretching (and sterility)?
 
bear
 
PS... I love your quote...being a strong believer in 'we create our own reality'.

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RE: Urethral Sounds… - 9/22/2006 11:45:04 AM   
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Hi Bearlee,
I actually did some severe research into female urethra penetration last year as I was considering that might be hot in scenes.
What I found was very little information pertaining to women doing this, very few books that discussed it, and like 4 people who had no clue about it but discussed it was a curiosity of theirs responded to my attempts in this forum here.
There's tons of information for male penetration, but not us girls.
Basically the only information I saw that were women discussing it or doing it were nasty ones who were taking toys from their butt and to their pussy etc... in the films of it I saw.

I actually had to go see a urologist and have him look in my bladder.
The desire for sound medical knowledge pushed me to discussed this idea in length with him and his nurse before the procedure.
He said a male urethra is not only straight & much longer than a womans, but also is more durable.
He said even with lube the penetration of a folly catheter (which is very soft and thin) causes strictures to form like little bits of scar tissue in a womans tract.
He said stretching or repeat exposure causing this scarring would cause huge urinary incontinence issues later.
He also stated since a womans urethral tract was so much shorter than a mans penetrating a woman leaves the opportunity to get infected a much higher percentage then men deal with.
He then proceeded to ask if I wanted to see what the penetration of his scope would feel like without the numbing agent he usually used.
He said he was pretty sure if he did that I'd then know that is not as hot and sexy as I was thinking it may be.
Well let me tell you the burning of the instrument going in was in no way sexy.
It pretty much cured the urge to expand that interest.
Safety issues and discomfort are not worth it to me to want to play with that now.
Suzanne
Edited to say the link you mentioned was the one I started last year when I was here under the plantlady64 name.
Thanks for pulling it back out of archives as there were way more posts than I remembered.

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RE: Urethral Sounds… - 9/22/2006 11:46:36 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Bearlee

Okay...just read an article on a website I greatly respect:  http://www.medicaltoys.com/lib-soundplay.htm
 
But...who knew there are different sounds for men & women???  I've never heard that!  Is it the case...that you shouldn't use one on the other?
 
A search on this site also produced another thread that including something regarding stretching and urethral fucking.  Any experience with this, either?  http://www.collarchat.com/m_168103/mpage_1/key_urethral%252Csounds/tm.htm#168487
 
Thanks again...
bear


Yes, males tracts are straight and long. Womans tracts are s shaped and short. It's as big a difference as the genitals that they reside in.

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RE: Urethral Sounds… - 9/28/2006 7:56:17 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ADomDoc

Hi bearlee,
Since you requested that I comment on this topic, I'll mention a few points to consider.

Using urethral sounds is not inherently bad IF the sounds are sterile (NOT just cleaned with germicidal solutions).  They have a valid use to remove urethral strictures caused by infection &/or trauma & can be temporarily helpful in dealing with prostatic hypertrophy.  In these uses, sounds are utilized to re-establish a diameter of the urethra that is functional in draining urine.  Any larger diameter has no physiological advantage.

Urethral sounds (all that I am acquainted with) are metalic, ergo make an excellent method of electrical stimulation to the male prostate ... for electrical play (using EMS).  Of course, this provides only 1 of the 2 necessary electrodes ... the 2nd electrode must present an approximately equal surface area -- slightly skewing the relative sizes allows the stimulation to be felt more on the smaller electrode.  AND AGAIN, even in electrical play, urethral sounds MUST be sterile and inserted using sterile technique.  This means the person doing the procedure MUST be educated in the proper application of STERILE technique ... and must KNOW the difference between Clean Technique vs Sterile Technique.

Urethral anatomy is significantly different between males & females ... most obviously in the length of the urethra.  Because of this alone, women are prone to more frequent urinary tract infections than men; the male urethra provides more length to fight off intruding bacteria.

Excessive dilatation of the urethra has the inherent potential of  stretching the 2 sphincter muscles beyond their elastic limit.  A single such insult will probably heal, but repetitive trauma of this nature will invariably lead to chronic urinary incontinence.  We'll all be wearing Depends soon enough ... do you really wanna rush it?

The stop-gap solution for urinary incontinence of this nature would be a catheter, which  invariably becomes host to a bacterial film which will eventually colonize the urinary tract AND are resistant to antibiotics (according to recent research on bacterial films).

Ok ... next point is insertion of inordinantly large things into the urethra.  While a small percentage of males get into this, they still have the advantage of a longer urethra to fight off intrusive bacteria.  This does NOT protect males from a finger inserted all the way to the bladder, but it remains a somewhat functional protection if the dilatation does not go past the shaft of the penis.  Extreme dilation of the female urethra, such as with a finger or penis is stupid, stupid, stupid.  1) Urinary incontinence is almost inevitable, 2) bare skin inserted into the bladder conveys myriads of bacteria & guarantees bacterial colonization and probably a UTI. 

I will qualify the last statement somewhat: Electrical stimulation of the sphincter muscles MIGHT rehabilitate them to be functional even after stretching.  This might be more functional IF done for the entire prolonged duration of the dilatation "training."  Id est, it is less likely to be successful if one waits til the urethra is stretched large enough to accept a penis ... but if one starts using electrical stimulation to strengthen the sphincters (both of them) after each successively larger dilatation, then one MIGHT be able to grow & strengthen the sphincters at the same time.  This ONLY addresses the point of incontinence ... NOT the risk of infection related to this activity.

Since MRSA, VRE & other antibiotic resistant bacteria are now "wild" in the general population, and VRSA isn't far behind ... these could be on the skin that gets inserted ... the chances of curing a bacterial infection with antibiotics is becoming more difficult, and might be impossible (people DO die of toxic shock on a daily basis).  And, let's not forget, they'll bill you for 1or 2 weeks of your salary for every day you spend in the hospital!  (You say that you've wrapped it?  Well folks, those latex gloves & condoms have pinhole leaks that are like barndoors for bacteria.  Don't bet your life on 'em.  (Besides, more & more folks are becoming allergic to latex.)

You may enjoy things in your urethra, and maybe even being tied down.  We can accommodate both desires in the hospital.  But, you may also be swollen up like West Texas roadkill in the noonday sun, in extreme pain, on a ventilator ... and we'll be talking to your relatives about a "Do No Resuscitate" order.  AND, if you enjoy being helplessly tortured, our default is to keep you alive at all costs & no matter how much it hurts you ... which means we can drag out your painful death for weeks, sometimes months. 

Finally, even using sterile techniques with sounds & Foleys, bacteria of some sort are ALWAYS shoved into the bladder ... you cannot sterilize the distal urethra.  After any & all urethral procedures, you should always assume that bacteria have been shoved into the bladder & make them unwelcome.  Bacteria that thrive in the urinary tract are those which like the pH of the environment ... so a simple prevention is to drink large volumes of fluids especially those which promote a more acidic environment, most notably cranberry juice.  I'm not talking about a glass of cranberry juice ... I'm talking about at least a gallon a day. This both changes the environment to a hostile pH AND provides a flow of urine making germs in the urinary tract feel like you trying to swim upstream in the Colorado River during the spring thaw.

The best way I know of "forcing fluids" is to fill a LARGE coffee cup with cranberry juice & chug it down.  Refill the cup & sip on it frequently til it's gone.  Immediately refill the cup & chug it down.  Then refill it & sip til it's gone ... etc.  In between, you can be drinking water.  If you are doing it right, you'll be peeing at least every 30 minutes.  Do NOT drink citrus juices, they make your urine more alkaline.  Vitamin C will also acidify your urine and can be taken in large quantities IF you drink lots of fluids.  If you drink only moderate amounts of fluids, large doses of Vitamin C will cause kidney stones.  Niacin will also acidify the urine very slightly.

Colloidal silver is helpful in some infections BUT research has shown that bacteria are getting used to colloidal silver just like they got used to antibiotics.  Taking small daily doses of colloidal silver only helps the germs get used to it in their diet.  Taking large daily prophylactic doses of colloidal silver will give you argyrosis (argyria).  So colloidal silver should only be taken in response to an infection, in large enough doses & enough duration to kill the infection (7-10 or maybe even 14 days), and then stopped.

Ok ... I may have missed some important aspect of this topic ... but I had my whack at it.  Hope it's helpful & some will pay attention to it.  I'm all for kinky play, but within limits that are safe & healthy for the sub/slave as well as the Dom/me.  I can inflict pain on a maso sub for hours ... but when I'm done, she won't be looking for a kidney transplant.  I'll add ... a sub/slave who is playing at this level better make sure that the Dom/me can define clean technique, sterile technique AND can demonstrate that s/he actually practices it. 






Yup,what he said...
and chuckles at the tying down and uretheral insertions at your local hospital.  Provisions for further torture can always be arranged, as well.

Just a little gallows humor
T, RN 

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RE: Urethral Sounds… - 10/1/2006 7:10:58 AM   
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OMG!!! I've been here for nearly a year, and have been actively posting now for a few months after "lurking" on the boards for a long time prior to that, and this is the FIRST time I've seen anyone suggest what I think of as the "Empathy Approach" to BDSM! Certainly, I've not read every thread, and in fact I've not even read this one in its entirety, but I had to jump in and cheer when I read PrimitiveLogic's post. I'm so very very glad that there are others around that do this... thus far I'd run across a LOT of folks who profess to be "too Dom/me" for any such thing, like one's leaning even matters. WAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

Ok, I'm retreating back to my own space to regain my composure. Thanks though, really.

Joan

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