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justheather -> RE: Slave post (9/21/2006 12:28:34 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Dnomyar

So what is being said is that you dont care who the post are being directed to. You dont have the experience to answer the question but your going to mouth off about it anyway. I would think that post are to gather knowlege from. I didnt know so many people knew everything.


Edited because it's not worth it.
Good luck to you.



mstrjx -> RE: Slave post (9/21/2006 12:33:48 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Dnomyar

So what is being said is that you dont care who the post are being directed to. You dont have the experience to answer the question but your going to mouth off about it anyway. I would think that post are to gather knowlege from. I didnt know so many people knew everything.


Not at all. 

I post direct responses to OP's issues when applicable. 

I post philosophical responses BECAUSE I have the experience to answer the question if it is a topic I can bring relevancy to.

I post snotty, snarky responses to posts in such a way that careful reading would see that there is usually more than one thing being said.

I don't post to those threads where my viewpoint is redundant, or to build up my post count, or because it is otherwise expected of me.

I would never say that I know everything.  A lot about a lot of things, or at least those things that I value in my life.  But I'm bright enough to know that I post here because there are those that need to hear it.

Jeff



raiken -> RE: Slave post (9/21/2006 12:35:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Archer

Elegant is in fact required to argue her opinion in most cases.The opinion we have come to s a house she is required to defend until she has een convinced beyond doubt that the other viewpoint is better than ours. Until that point she is required to debate with tact and respect but with all she has.

Unless we are forced to defend our opinions with facts we get lazy and miss the chance to have them grow.


This is the way it is for me as well.  Those whom i serve expect me to engage, but always with respect. i am expected to defend my arguements with tact and poise.   i am always polite, but there are times when others take my words out of context and flame me because something i shared rubs them the wrong way.  If one is upset at the content of a post or of a conversation flow, that is one thing.  But when one attacks the person, instead of keeping it to the content of the conversatoin or thought, to me, that is "rude, crude, and socially unacceptable." No matter what side of the Mor s one resides.  As i had stated on another forum, i am not to tolerate disrespect to my person from anyone.  My personal line of integrity just won't allow it even if i tried. Those whom i serve would punish me for backing down, unless i had valid reason to walk away as in the case of flaming or ignorance, obstinance, etc.



CreativeDominant -> RE: Slave post (9/21/2006 12:46:01 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Dnomyar

So what is being said is that you dont care who the post are being directed to. You dont have the experience to answer the question but your going to mouth off about it anyway. I would think that post are to gather knowlege from. I didnt know so many people knew everything.


In reading mstrjx' post, I noted that he stated that he had been a slave owner in the past and intended to be one in the future.  Given that statement, how on God's green earth did you come to the conclusion that he " doesn't have the experience to answer the question"???  Do you know him personally and know his statement as to his status as a past owner of a slave to be false? 

Or does the fact that he disagrees with you show his lack of experience?  Like the submissives who answered your post, though you "commanded" that you only wanted to hear from slave owners?  Like the dominants, such as myself...who's never owned a slave but has owned a couple of great submissives...and others who I am sure will post?  Is it our combined " lack of experience "?  Or is it our disagreement with your stance?

Good luck with that...



sweetnurseBBW -> RE: Slave post (9/21/2006 12:59:02 PM)

My Master allows me to voice my opinion. He reads all my posts and if I get close to being out of line I am told so. I know what my Master finds acceptable so I go by that.



BalletBob -> RE: Slave post (9/21/2006 1:02:22 PM)

If your not happy with your Subs post, then why not discuss that with them? Tell them what you didn't like about it, and ask them why they said that? No one would know more about the post than your sub.

Wish I was Tied and Gagged by a Mistress, Ballet Bob

PS I "STILL" LOVE your Thigh Highs Justheather. I am so JELIOUS !   LMCLAO



Dnomyar -> RE: Slave post (9/21/2006 1:04:50 PM)

CreativeDominant. The question was about slaves not submissives.  Do you think that they are one and the same? I think that there is a big difference. My argument if it is being taken as such is that I posted this as a question directed to Slave Owners . If I wanted a submissives opinion I would have asked for it. I dont see any submissives in here who own slaves. Cannot a question be asked and answered  without any BS. To many people in here get combative. It is just a forum. Why flame people for asking questions? If you dont get specific in your questions you get torn apart if you do get specific it happens anyway.



marieToo -> RE: Slave post (9/21/2006 1:08:00 PM)

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ORIGINAL: justheather
If I believed that something I am going to say would reflect negatively on my Daddy (even though most people here have no idea who my Daddy is)


Awww come on....Spill it!!



raiken -> RE: Slave post (9/21/2006 1:09:47 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mstrjx


I post snotty, snarky responses to posts in such a way that careful reading would see that there is usually more than one thing being said.

Jeff


While i relate to your post in its entirety, this aspect stood out in my mind.  Careful reading is the key, and i believe (correct me if i am wrong) that you used the word "careful" to mean to read the content in an objective and unbiased mindset (if possible for the reader to do) to discern the original intent and point.  i have used this at times, and have learned that many will take a subjective stance and take a point personal, with flames and attacks on character to follow instead of viewing the contents of the words for how they were originally intended.  i have found that this approach also aids in finding out about the nature and character of the audience, and whether it is worth continuing the exchange of thought..



sweetnurseBBW -> RE: Slave post (9/21/2006 1:11:54 PM)

Hmmm some switch subs do own slaves. I am not one but we have a few here. 



PlayfulOne -> RE: Slave post (9/21/2006 1:14:35 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Dnomyar
Im not a slave owner.


Gee thats a surprise, Mr Personality doesn't own anything.

K

edited to add

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ORIGINAL: Dnomyar
I posted this as a question directed to Slave Owners . If I wanted a submissives opinion I would have asked for it. I dont see any submissives in here who own slaves.


Well sir my little one is marked as my slave, but she also works as a swtich and together we own a boy.  That should get your panties in a nice big bunch.



justheather -> RE: Slave post (9/21/2006 1:16:44 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Dnomyar

CreativeDominant. The question was about slaves not submissives.  Do you think that they are one and the same?

Let's start a thread about the difference between the two.
Surely, there must be one universal definition for each.

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My argument if it is being taken as such is that I posted this as a question directed to Slave Owners


Actually, you said you were interested in the opinions of slave owners. Well, really, you said you would like "a slave owners opinion on this" so, really, anything above and beyond the opinion of one slave owner is gravy.
You should be thanking us.

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If I wanted a submissives opinion I would have asked for it.

Here on collarme it works a little like this: You have an idea. You start a thread. People respond. You take the responses you like and you integrate them into your world view (HA!), the rest you ignore.
You don't get to decide who can and can't respond to a thread. Nor is it considered good form to tell someone who offers an opinion that their opinion is not welcome.
It just isn't done.
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I dont see any submissives in here who own slaves.

I don't see anyone in here because Im in a room alone.
How the heck do you know that there are no submissives "in here" who own slaves or who have owned them in the past?

And by extension, wouldnt a person's providing comment as to what his or her master allows be one way of providing you with exactly what you asked... a slave owner's opinion.

Maybe you can set up a website where you define what makes a submissive vs a slave or a master vs a dom and then you can ask people who fit your definition to answer your questions in the exact manner you want them to. Until then, welcome to collarme...this is how we do things here.

Is it any wonder you took issue with the slave's response in the other thread you mentioned? You seem to be both uber controlling and defensive. Nobody here flamed you.



justheather -> RE: Slave post (9/21/2006 1:18:17 PM)

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ORIGINAL: marieToo


Awww come on....Spill it!!


Nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah, I know something you don't know!
My point was that even if my Daddy is just an idea to most people who read my words, I don't want them to reflect poorly on him.



sweetnurseBBW -> RE: Slave post (9/21/2006 1:21:32 PM)

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I posted this as a question directed to Slave Owners . If I wanted a submissives opinion I would have asked for it. I dont see any submissives in here who own slaves.
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Well sir my little one is marked as my slave, but she also works as a swtich and together we own a boy.  That should get your panties in a nice big bunch.
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Well there you go, just as I said. [:)]



popeye1250 -> RE: Slave post (9/21/2006 1:23:59 PM)

C'mon Heather, it's Homestead, right?



OhReallyNow -> RE: Slave post (9/21/2006 1:24:39 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Dnomyar

Usually I post just to get peoples reactions to a question. This time Im looking for an opnion. In a recent post I had a owned slave reply to a question. He was all bent out of shape by the question and went on a rant. I welcome others opinions but this was taken a little to far. I don't know if he asked his Mistress before he did it or is it allowed for a slave to do something like this on their own? I would like a slave owners opinion on this.

Master knows, and expects this slave to have opinions, and to voice them when approiate. Though master does not post on the boards himself, he reads them often.
This slave does not ask permission to post. If Master feels that this slave went overboard on a reply, he tells her, and expects this slave to act accordingly.
One thing is that when this slave responds to a post, she always does so with the knowledge that anything she says or does reflects back on Master [:)]
 



raiken -> RE: Slave post (9/21/2006 1:27:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Dnomyar

CreativeDominant. The question was about slaves not submissives.  Do you think that they are one and the same? I think that there is a big difference.

You do, but any number of others will argue the point, being a slave or being a submissive is very subjective to the person claiming said title.  There is always a gray area in some folks minds over this age old and forever running debate.

My argument if it is being taken as such is that I posted this as a question directed to Slave Owners . If I wanted a submissives opinion I would have asked for it. I dont see any submissives in here who own slaves.

i am a slave who has owned other slaves.  Why didn't you see me?  Were you not looking? LOL (said tongue n cheek here)  Sometimes you get MORE than you ask for, what is the problem with that?

Cannot a question be asked and answered  without any BS.

Well, are you exempting yourself from this bias judgement?  For as i have observed, you have also contributed to the growing pile of it.  Not meant to offend, just being honest.

To many people in here get combative. It is just a forum.

Look at your own past remarks, they contained some provoking statements and judgements.

Why flame people for asking questions? If you dont get specific in your questions you get torn apart if you do get specific it happens anyway.


Ah...humanity at its best or worst, which ever side of the glass you choose to reside.
One thing i can tell you is that to discount folks opinions is not polite or courteous, if something doesn't sit well with you, than just move on to the next post.  It works better than to sling ungratefulness around toward those who offered to share their thoughts with you. Just MY opinion of course. *smile  Welcome to humanity. *grin



angelina1 -> RE: Slave post (9/21/2006 1:40:14 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Dnomyar

CreativeDominant. The question was about slaves not submissives.  Do you think that they are one and the same? I think that there is a big difference. My argument if it is being taken as such is that I posted this as a question directed to Slave Owners . If I wanted a submissives opinion I would have asked for it. I dont see any submissives in here who own slaves. Cannot a question be asked and answered  without any BS. To many people in here get combative. It is just a forum. Why flame people for asking questions? If you dont get specific in your questions you get torn apart if you do get specific it happens anyway.


I am a slave and am going to post on this anyway. Whilst I am an owned slave I still have a mind of my own and use it often. I am not a doormat and my Master would not have it any other way. Within any relationship there is trust and my Master trusts me to post my point of view and argument responsibly. He knows that I would never post anything that was disrespectful to him. If I did I would expect to be punished for it.

Whilst I would always try to be polite in putting my point forward I would not have any issues with replying to or disagreeing with anyone, including Doms or Masters, if I felt I was right to do so. Because someone chooses to call themselves a Master etc on here, they are not my Master and therefore do not have my automatic respect. Many have earnt that respect from their attitude and posts on here but others have a long way to go.



mstrjx -> RE: Slave post (9/21/2006 1:40:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: raiken

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ORIGINAL: mstrjx


I post snotty, snarky responses to posts in such a way that careful reading would see that there is usually more than one thing being said.

Jeff


While i relate to your post in its entirety, this aspect stood out in my mind.  Careful reading is the key, and i believe (correct me if i am wrong) that you used the word "careful" to mean to read the content in an objective and unbiased mindset (if possible for the reader to do) to discern the original intent and point.  i have used this at times, and have learned that many will take a subjective stance and take a point personal, with flames and attacks on character to follow instead of viewing the contents of the words for how they were originally intended.  i have found that this approach also aids in finding out about the nature and character of the audience, and whether it is worth continuing the exchange of thought..


You're right, and it's probably a little unfair, at least to the person who is being 'shat' on by me and every other responder.  Call it my little unfair mindfuck.  The person who it's directed to probably isn't in the best frame of mind to see what all is there.  My emotions don't get distorted one way or another, so I write what I do in a very level fashion.

But then that goes back to my original response.  If I wanted to say something directly to an OP, I can always send email, and sometimes I do.  I'm aware that we all are reading each other's words, and forming opinions not only about the subject matter, but on the character of the writer as well.

This is why 'reputation' is so vital in our world.  If we get outed as an abuser or a rapist, the community is small enough that we are shunned from participating from anyone within that community.

The same goes here.  I probably take more risks than I ought, because some of the things I say might not read as well as I hear them being said.  But I counter that with some more meaningful messages as well.  I think it's only fair to be able to share all of myself here, not just the 'touching' bits.

Thanks for giving me the chance to elaborate.

And yes, I troll the Servants room and hopefully say some relevant things there as well.  And the Dommes' room.  Nobody has asked me to leave yet.

Jeff



justheather -> RE: Slave post (9/21/2006 1:45:38 PM)


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ORIGINAL: mstrjx
You're right, and it's probably a little unfair, at least to the person who is being 'shat' on by me and every other responder. 


This is a little harsh, don't you think?
From where I stand, nobody came onboard sh*tting on people, they offered their time and experience and then were told it wasn't welcome.



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