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DARKDES1RE -> Submissives/slaves (9/22/2006 4:31:15 PM)

OK, I've been on this sight for awhile, looking and trying to spark something. Well I've noticed that most on here are players/wannabes. Guess my patience of wading through the crap has wore on me. Yeah I know a Dom needs patience but when not a single person replies to my e-mails I send it get old.I simple respectful reply is better than a brush off.




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Submissives/slaves (9/22/2006 4:34:07 PM)

No answer IS a respectful reply.  If you're sending an email out to a complete stranger, there is NO obligation for them to respond in any way.  It's not rude, it's not disrespectful, it's not bad.

In fact, if you're sending an email which contains things that are inappropriate (such as if they are clearly collared or not looking and you send them an email trying to appeal to them), it would be inappropriate for them to respond- because it would suggest they even considered such things.

Not that it matters, you are the latest of hundreds on this board alone and won't be the last to bitch about the emails you don't get.




wonderland -> RE: Submissives/slaves (9/22/2006 4:37:54 PM)

You don't have a profile.  That could be a major reason you get no replies.  I wouldn't even consider replying to someone without a profile.




Frank01 -> RE: Submissives/slaves (9/22/2006 4:39:53 PM)

Do you feel that not replying to a viagra spammer is also rude? Do you answer ANY of YOUR spam?




FangsNfeet -> RE: Submissives/slaves (9/22/2006 4:54:31 PM)

Dude, quit your whinning and save the drama for your mama. Are you sure you're not a player/wannabe yourself? There must be something not all 100% about you that these people see and decided not to waste there time to reply.




NastyDaddy -> RE: Submissives/slaves (9/22/2006 5:29:23 PM)

Actually he's one of those lucky one's whose message board link to his profile doesn't work, you have to do a search on the other side. In reality though, the link posted when his message recipients read his message should work over there.

http://www.collarme.com/bdsm/v/280835/q/DARKDES1RE/rzda/87506/default.htm

You may want to note this DARKDES1RE and post the above link in your message board sig? At the present it seems the only immediate fix and the same issue affects countless others.




MasterFireMaam -> RE: Submissives/slaves (9/22/2006 5:43:51 PM)

I went and took a look at your profile. In my opinion, your profile isn't very interesting or one that I'd take seriously. In your journal, you write "I put myself out on this site with full honesty, people know who and what I am, I hide nothing." However, your profile doesn't contain a picture nor does it contain any original writing. I find that to be a contradiction which leads me to wonder about your "player" status.

Consider a re-write.

Master Fire




Missokyst -> RE: Submissives/slaves (9/22/2006 6:16:51 PM)

I saw your profile and your oath was enough to put me off.  You state that you are "quick to understand the difference between fantasy and reality." Yet you also say  "I am a strong and unyielding instructor. I will accept no flaw, nothing less than perfection from My slave."
You do realise perfection does not exist, don't you?
DO you consider yourself perfect?   

There is very little about your profile that states who you are as a person.  WHY would someone want to get to know you, beyond the D/s measure.

Show a little of that humor kindness and warmth you profess to have.

I am a sub, but I am also a WOMAN, a human being, with interests beyond bsdm (yeah weird I know).  I wouldn't even look twice at someone who seemed to identify themselves soley as a master. 

I would wonder, master of what.

You don't need to show a picture to reveal yourself for the type of person you are. 
Kyst

quote:

ORIGINAL: DARKDES1RE

OK, I've been on this sight for awhile, looking and trying to spark something. Well I've noticed that most on here are players/wannabes. Guess my patience of wading through the crap has wore on me. Yeah I know a Dom needs patience but when not a single person replies to my e-mails I send it get old.I simple respectful reply is better than a brush off.




SadistCpl4fslv -> RE: Submissives/slaves (9/22/2006 9:46:55 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: FangsNfeet

Dude, quit your whinning and save the drama for your mama. Are you sure you're not a player/wannabe yourself? There must be something not all 100% about you that these people see and decided not to waste there time to reply.



ROFLAO........"save the drama for your mama"......that's a good one




MasterC46910 -> RE: Submissives/slaves (9/22/2006 9:58:42 PM)

You send out a feeler message and they check your profile to see if they want to respond.  Do you have the type profile the would incite a response?   What about your profile grabs their attention and they just have to respond?  Is your feeler message different, interesting, thought provoking or funny?

I also send out a number of message to others, sometimes just a comment on something they say on their profile or something they may have said on the forums and sometimes I just admit I would be interested in learning more about them..  Sometimes you get a response back, most times you will not.  Try seeking friendships first.  Don't expect to find anyone very fast.  There are real people on here, I have met and talked to a number of them.  Just be real, look to only meet people for now, and let them learn about you.  It really does work.




MaamJay -> RE: Submissives/slaves (9/22/2006 10:03:20 PM)

I haven't looked at the profile in question so My comment isn't directed that way. However, one criticism levelled is that there is no picture. Well, neither is there on My profile, nor will there ever be until I have retired from My academic position! And even then, I would be reluctant. At present, with a job that requires regular contact with unmentionables, there is no way I could publish a picture that clearly links Me with My chosen lifestyle, for while that SHOULD have no bearing (being that I fully adhere to SSC principles), the media would certainly find a link and make the most of it! So please understand that there may be very good reasons why someone doesn't include a picture. However, I am in total agreement with the need to write openly and include information about the whole person, I also do not respond to poorly-written brief statements.
Mistress Jay




Missokyst -> RE: Submissives/slaves (9/22/2006 10:13:35 PM)

I totally agree that it isn't a great idea to post a pic. 
Particularly if you have a sensitive job.  Heck.. even if someone you are with has a sensitive job.  Plain and simple it is just not a wise idea.
I don't even look at pics myself.  But words are everything.
Kyst

quote:

ORIGINAL: MaamJay

However, I am in total agreement with the need to write openly and include information about the whole person, I also do not respond to poorly-written brief statements.
Mistress Jay




jamesthehumanrug -> RE: Submissives/slaves (9/22/2006 10:46:24 PM)

greetings, go thru the motions;don't swet the small stuff;some people don't know how to respond ;and you are quite good looking ;so good things come to those who wait with patience...you have nothing to worry about;it will happen ,if you try, not if you give up;
how long does it take, in life to be sucessful?; sometimes 20 yrs! ;so you have to put up, with the less successful times ,till you get there.




popeye1250 -> RE: Submissives/slaves (9/22/2006 10:49:29 PM)

Nasty Daddy, he even has a "Master's Oath" in there.




SadistCpl4fslv -> RE: Submissives/slaves (9/22/2006 10:51:09 PM)

Ok.......it is my considered opinion that profiles don't work however you write them without a little creative inticement and this is the reason why I say this.  We are assuming that most people that respond to our profiles actually read them first.  We assume this because we take the time to read these forums and post to them.  So it is a given that we also read profiles.  I know that I read every profile that I respond to because I will be damned if I am going to waist time and effort talking to a potential slave only to find out that we are not compatable when I could have found that out from their profile.  However, it is very evident in my experience that most of the responders on CM do not even bother to read profiles before responding.  We have been on CM for a year and half.  In that time I did a little controled experiement.  We changed our profile numerous times.  Made it witty, creative, detailed, simplified, short, to the point, not so to the point, every which way I could think of.  Changed our pics numerous times as well.  Closed the first account and opened a new one and started all over again.  And through all of this there was one variable that never changed.  It was evident that all of those that responded to our profile without exception never read a word of it.  While I am not absolutely sure, I think what is happening is that those responders are just looking at our pics and drawing a conclusion from those alone.  Which makes a good argument for not having pics on a profile, even though we still do.  Also, I have noticed that none of the responders and very few of the regulars that show up in the user lists ever come or post to these forums.  And I have also noticed that the majority of slaves and submissives that do post to these forums are already in relationships, so that is not a good representation of those who are responding to the profiles.   I have, however found a possible solution that seems to be working for us.  I don't respond to unsolicited emails anymore, unless I am sure they have read my profile and that hasn't happened yet.  What I do instead is to respond to a slave's profile that looks like she might be compatible and then after giving a very short summary of who we are and a show of our interest, I ask them to read our profile before responding back.  This seems to be working.  Lately we either get no response back, or a response that goes something like " I read your profile and would like to start a dialogue".   We are now engaged in dialogue with a couple of slaves that looks very promising after going through almost a forest of players and much waisted time and effort before taking this approach.




Frank01 -> RE: Submissives/slaves (9/22/2006 10:54:46 PM)

Heck, I just came here to read the forums and learn a few things. Interesting way to pass the time. My profile expresses that explicitly, and to bugger off.

I'll REALLY know they didn't read it if *I* get mail![:D]




popeye1250 -> RE: Submissives/slaves (9/22/2006 11:04:51 PM)

Sadistcpl4fsl, I have a fairly detailed profile and I've had a few replies both solicited and unsolicited.
I put a lot of work into my profile and it is kind of long but it let's people know what I'm looking for and I do have a picture.




Owned1 -> RE: Submissives/slaves (9/22/2006 11:08:41 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: DARKDES1RE

OK, I've been on this sight for awhile, looking and trying to spark something. Well I've noticed that most on here are players/wannabes. Guess my patience of wading through the crap has wore on me. Yeah I know a Dom needs patience but when not a single person replies to my e-mails I send it get old.I simple respectful reply is better than a brush off.


Sorry I just have to say it,,,,,,Suck it up Princess,,,,,,,,,,

Just because someone doesnt respond to an unsolicited email does not make everyone a player or wannabe.

There are the few who have found what they are seeking online however the majority find it in real life ,  in da flesh ,  get out of the house from behind a terminal that provides no insight as to who you are and see what the real world is like

Owned




twicehappy -> RE: Submissives/slaves (9/23/2006 5:07:20 AM)

I am not exactly responding to the OP's opening post but i am adding comments to what others have already said.
 
My profile is very short on words it basically states i am owned, by whom and that i am happy, it has no photo of me(though I do send a pic of me to those I converse with). I still get the occasional email from somebody who does not read profiles.
 
I have been searching for a male subbie to turn our triad into a quad so i send out quite a few emails and am amazed at the number who though not interested have taken the time to respond courteously and well, a few of these have at least become friends. There are those who respond with their "do me" list but far less than you would expect.
 
I email folks all the time though aside from the search and i always get a hi, how are etc...back but then again i am on the boards a lot.
 
Perhaps as others have suggested change your profile a bit, i have read it and could send you to a hundred others just like it.
 
Try writing a bit about your life, your hobbies, and your vanilla interests, what you are seeking for; after all even in a 24/7  D/s relationship we all have to live in the day to day world.
 
You state you are putting yourself out there and everybody knows who you are but unless i am mistaken i think most do not so get out on the boards post some of your ideas and opinions, let people get to know you.
 
You've only been on here four months; it takes some folks years to meet that "one".
 
The" i am making a list of players and wannabees" statement almost sounds like a temper tantrum and is probably quite off putting to those who might have considered responding at all.
 
 




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