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OhReallyNow -> RE: "no strings housework" (9/24/2006 7:06:19 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mixielicous

why must someone always rain on the parade??? ^^^^^^

LOL do not worry Mixie; this slave let his words roll right off her back. [:D]




Bearcub4m -> RE: "no strings housework" (9/24/2006 2:53:42 PM)

I've enjoyed these words; I'd love to find someone to come clean my house -- the naked man in an apron who does the dishes, you know?  But I must say that the only time I cleaned for a friend of mine who is a Dom, but not my master, was for the reason given - tired of the mess I see and realizing it is because he doesn't really know how to do it as easily as I do, just as I didn't know how to start and work the weedeater at my house, and he told me over the phone.  It is as one of you said, people helping friends, even, in all lifestyles.  But I've heard of those who like to clean - I just couldn't believe they existed. One Dom wanted to get me one and teach me to dominate him;  it's not really how I am, but I am not sure I could give him more than a "no - go home" answer either.  So I feel that is just using someone and can't do it.  But I wish I could do it - I don't like cleaning my own house even! 




FelinePersuasion -> RE: "no strings housework" (9/25/2006 10:52:36 AM)

Mcand Nuri, no that doesn't count hehehe. All though I know what you mean I was in this elderly lady's home and there were flies on the bread meat left out modly bread all over the place months of dishes left, she couldn't keep up with the house keep and had nobody to care sept me a young child, as soon as I knew her well enough not to be offensive by offering I doned gloves an we washed all those dirty nasty dishes and cleaned up some.
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ORIGINAL: MCandNuri

Does it count if you are over at their house and you just get grossed out by the mess and start cleaning?
I've done that a few times.
I don't really think I was a 'nice person' for it, I just couldn't stand being in the mess. ;-)





LaTigresse -> RE: "no strings housework" (9/25/2006 10:59:48 AM)

Please note:  If there is ANYONE that gets their kink on cleaning house.....SEE ME!




CreativeDominant -> RE: "no strings housework" (9/25/2006 11:07:09 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Please note:  If there is ANYONE that gets their kink on cleaning house.....SEE ME!


I second you, Tigresse...only with me, it would be my office.  Goddddddddddd, I hate cleaning up paperwork.  Don't mind doing it...hate filing it.




LaTigresse -> RE: "no strings housework" (9/25/2006 11:09:24 AM)

Me also..........there is an 8" high stack sitting on the credenza behind me as I type. If it is behind me I can pretend it does not exist because I am not looking at it.[:D]




mstrjx -> RE: "no strings housework" (9/25/2006 11:14:52 AM)

LaT,

But at some point, is it necessary for a slave, or a Master or Mistress that owns that slave, to necessarily acknowledge that the service is a 'kink'.

Can it not be for the sake of what they consider to be their own place?

Assuming their emotional needs are met, internally as well as by the owner, does an owner or owned require 'kink'?  (Or maybe something so subtle, that it would be otherwise invisible.)

Jeff




LaTigresse -> RE: "no strings housework" (9/25/2006 11:20:34 AM)

Dear Jeff, Please understand that I was being my irrepressible flippant self. I believe I understand what you are pointing out and I whole heartedly agree. Even I, bossy old batich that I am, woman that would rather do most ANYthing other than clean house (especially cleaning out the GD refridgerator) can understand the concept of, and has been known to, help someone with less time, less energy, whatever their particular case may be, with household drudgery.
Sometimes it is a joy to see the relief on a person's face when there is one less thing they have to do in an already overtaxed day. Even if it is something you despise having to do for yourself.




littlesarbonn -> RE: "no strings housework" (9/25/2006 11:24:49 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Please note:  If there is ANYONE that gets their kink on cleaning house.....SEE ME!


As I've mentioned numerous times before (but this issue keeps coming up like it's a brand new one...every two weeks), I'm one of those service-oriented submissives who serves with the sole purpose of pleasing the woman to whom he's dedicated himself to. I really don't think too many people have a "kink" for cleaning someone's house, but sincere submissives of this nature probably have a strong necessity to do whatever is necessary to make their controller as happy, satisfied and better off as possible. I started my very first serious relationship of this nature with a professional dominant who recognized through sessions that I was much more interested in serving her in whatever way made her happy than in getting "session benefits." So, when I mentioned after a few years that I didn't really think this was serving either one of us (doing sessions) and that I was going to probably find some other avenue where I might be of benefit (like marry a vanilla woman and make her life as pleasant as possible, even without any pursuit of bdsm elements), she offered to have me become her houseboy, instead of someone who did sessions. It was a really bizarre change (for me) to go from a paying customer to someone who came over two or three times a week and cleaned or did whatever else she needed done for her. 90 percent of the time, she hardly even touched me, or did anything that could be construed as "slave"-like other than direct me as to what needed to be done. And I did that for about a year, never really questioning the arrangement because I didn't know anything else, and she was so wonderful that just doing anything for her was the greatest reward I could imagine.

Like I said, she was a professional dominant, and this was the period where a lot of pro dommes were realizing that they could get paying customers to do the houseboy thing, too, so she actually was entertaining potential clients of this nature concerning this kind of thing (although I wasn't really aware this was the case at the time). I knew that other submissives were around doing chores from time to time, but it always seemed that they were chores intituted with an attitude, sparking punishments for "failure" and that sort of thing. What I didn't realize at the time was that my mistress and the other women working at her establishment were always seeking the "customer" who could also be the houseboy. I even started to notice that I was being asked to come fewer and fewer days a week, which I discovered through other channels had more to do with submissives who were paying customers who were pretty much doing the kind of thing I was.

One evening, I was there cleaning the entire upstairs floor (a huge, long task as the place was huge), and I kind of got the impression at the time that one of these "regulars" was in the basement area doing cleaning like usual. I was beginning to suspect that I might not be needed much longer, so I was savoring the bit I was doing, although as it started to feel I wasn't really necessary to her and her place anymore, I was getting close to reconsidering the whole relationship and focusing on my writing 24/7, realizing that there were just too many people like me that I was essentially a dime a dozen and easily replaced. That was when there was a huge commotion going on in the house, that I could even hear upstairs while I was running the extremely noisy vacuum. Then I heard the main door slamming a few minutes later, and after a few moments, my mistress came rushing up the stairs to where I was still working. She told me to stop working and put the vacuum away. After I did, she indicated to me that I was going to become her personal slave from this point forward.

It took me awhile to figure out what happened, but I really think she was working on replacing me back then, figuring that getting someone like me was easy because I had been so easy to find. She worked with this other guy, who was the latest attempt of many to find what she was seeking, and he had been doing what was desired for quite some time until he finally did something (which I don't know what it was) that revealed that he wasn't there for her or her needs, but he had been masking an ulterior motive the entire time. I think what finally pissed her off completely was that she had completely fallen for his routine.

And then she realized I'd been there all along. I didn't have ulterior motives. Sure, I would have loved to have been courted by her and would have married her on the spot, but she was my mistress, not my girlfriend, so that was never going to happen, and I was satisfied with where I existed in her life. I think every slave wants to be as significant to his or her mistress as possible, and once you realize that it's probably not going to go any further than where you are at a certain moment, if what you have right then and there is enough of what you seek, then everything is as perfect as it is ever going to be.

Unfortunately, a decade later, I find myself an outsider to the community again, and I suspect that I will probably not find what I've always been looking for. It seems like a lot of dynamics have changed, but I haven't really, other than to repair some of the baggage I've carried around in some previous relationships that was never necessary in the first place; you just need some time to figure that out.

So, finding someone who needs someone like me is difficult, even though I keep hearing conversations from dominant women who claim to be wanting to find exactly what I am. I don't really know how to approach people anymore. I try blunt honesty and a positive disposition, indicating my positives, which are many, and I try to show how I fit the categories of what they're seeking. But it rarely even garners a response, which leaves me often thinking that either they aren't really sure what it is they're seeking, but hear something and think that's it, but forget to incorporate that into their searching criteria, or I've outlived my usefulness in this capacity because the foundation of what I think I am has evolved, and I just never saw it happen as this type of submissive is different than what it used to be, and I'm some sort of dinosaur in the eyes of fundamental criteria.

I was going to just pass on this thread, as it seems to keep resurfacing over and over again, but I thought I'd comment at least one last time on it, because I still feel there's a relevancy issue that keeps getting missed.




LaTigresse -> RE: "no strings housework" (9/25/2006 11:32:24 AM)

sarbonn, please forgive me if my flippant remark hit a nerve. This was not my intention. I understand what you are saying 100% and have no wish to demean the nature of a slave's service as you express it. As I said previously to Jeff, I understand the enjoyment of helping others, granted not to the extent that you and others have expressed. I just freakin HATE housework and never seem to have enough time to get everything done AND lord knows if someone I trusted in my home wanted to do it for me today I would be more than willing to let them.




mstrjx -> RE: "no strings housework" (9/25/2006 11:37:58 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

sarbonn, please forgive me if my flippant remark hit a nerve. This was not my intention. I understand what you are saying 100% and have no wish to demean the nature of a slave's service as you express it. As I said previously to Jeff, I understand the enjoyment of helping others, granted not to the extent that you and others have expressed. I just freakin HATE housework and never seem to have enough time to get everything done AND lord knows if someone I trusted in my home wanted to do it for me today I would be more than willing to let them.



LaT,

I don't think either one of us are misunderstanding you.  But for yourself, and Mistresses everywhere, would you not find value in that sort of slave?  I'm not speaking of housework per se, just 'service'.

It also dovetails with the 'no sex' thread, possibly.

Just a thought.




CreativeDominant -> RE: "no strings housework" (9/25/2006 11:39:14 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Me also..........there is an 8" high stack sitting on the credenza behind me as I type. If it is behind me I can pretend it does not exist because I am not looking at it.[:D]


Shhhhhhhhhh...I stash it in my secondary office... 




LaTigresse -> RE: "no strings housework" (9/25/2006 12:10:58 PM)

Jeff,

I absolutely would find great value in having this type of person in my life. I think that unfortunately many of us have become jaded in believing such a person exists. I can only relate to my own personal experiences and what I have read/heard from others. Every time I have given my time to communicate with someone that initially states their interest is solely to serve me in whatever manner I chose it has ended up turning down roads I specifically stated I was not interested in. After enough of those, regardless of wether it is fair to everyone or not, I have begun to question motives in all that approach in that manner.  I just don't have time to go thru the motions only to discover the guy wants to...................... clean my house naked except for a CBT device.Or another...... to repetitively hear about how he has not masterbated to prove his submission to me and now that he has not done that for 3 whole weeks may he now have permission for being so devoted. I specifically said early on that I have no interest in his penis or what he does with it. I don't care if he scrogs every woman he can or masterbates himself sore, I just do not want to know about it. I made that clear in the beginning. Unfortunately, I am sure honest to goodness service slaves exist, I just don't have time to sift thru the chaff to get to the grain....I have a house (and office[:'(]) that needs my attention!




CherieP -> RE: "no strings housework" (9/25/2006 10:07:13 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Jeff,

I absolutely would find great value in having this type of person in my life. I think that unfortunately many of us have become jaded in believing such a person exists. I can only relate to my own personal experiences and what I have read/heard from others. Every time I have given my time to communicate with someone that initially states their interest is solely to serve me in whatever manner I chose it has ended up turning down roads I specifically stated I was not interested in. After enough of those, regardless of wether it is fair to everyone or not, I have begun to question motives in all that approach in that manner.  I just don't have time to go thru the motions only to discover the guy wants to...................... clean my house naked except for a CBT device.Or another...... to repetitively hear about how he has not masterbated to prove his submission to me and now that he has not done that for 3 whole weeks may he now have permission for being so devoted. I specifically said early on that I have no interest in his penis or what he does with it. I don't care if he scrogs every woman he can or masterbates himself sore, I just do not want to know about it. I made that clear in the beginning. Unfortunately, I am sure honest to goodness service slaves exist, I just don't have time to sift thru the chaff to get to the grain....I have a house (and office[:'(]) that needs my attention!



And here I would be happy with the naked guy in the CBT device, if he only did a decent job with the floors.  [sm=tongue.gif]

edited to add:

I wish you the best of luck in your search littlesarbonn.  If you weren't at the other end of the continent I would invite you to go beachcombing with me.




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