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RE: can someone explain this to me?? - 9/25/2006 3:39:55 PM   
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missturbation I think you are giving away more information about yourself then perhaps you mean to. Or maybe you mean to, who knows.
 
For a good many of us, BDSM is NOT at all about sex, or sexual arousal. Evidently it is for you, and that's great, you know what you feel no one else does. For some, you would be called a kinkster, or wannabe, or fake, or what have you. *shrugs* I doubt you'd like being classified by someone else's label. It might even offend you. It's all about labels and how we personally define things to ourselves FOR ourselves. It's no one else's business.
 
But just as you're entitled to your opinion, others are as well. They're also subject to having some respect, regardless of how you feel about them, or aspects of their life. You had (in my opinion) nothing productive to say in this thread so other than do attempt a weak power exchange I don't see a purpose in your posting.
 
I'm not going to argue semantics with you...or anything else.
 
That being said you've had your power exchange, I hope your eve is a good one.
 
'Nough said.
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RE: can someone explain this to me?? - 9/25/2006 3:47:35 PM   
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missturbation I think you are giving away more information about yourself then perhaps you mean to. Or maybe you mean to, who knows
I have nothing to be ashamed of so the information i give is intentional.

For a good many of us, BDSM is NOT at all about sex, or sexual arousal. Evidently it is for you, and that's great, you know what you feel no one else does. For some, you would be called a kinkster, or wannabe, or fake, or what have you. *shrugs* I doubt you'd like being classified by someone else's label. It might even offend you. It's all about labels and how we personally define things to ourselves FOR ourselves. It's no one else's business.
I never said bdsm was all about sex u completely missed my point. The implication was made that nothing about ladysians job was sexual and im afraid thats just crap. Men get off on what she does - simple as.

But just as you're entitled to your opinion, others are as well. They're also subject to having some respect, regardless of how you feel about them, or aspects of their life. You had (in my opinion) nothing productive to say in this thread so other than do attempt a weak power exchange I don't see a purpose in your posting.
The purpose of my original post was that i was surprised someone in ladysians line of work wouldnt have a thicker skin than to let this man upset her.

That being said you've had your power exchange, I hope your eve is a good one.
As ive already said i prefer to be without power so i have nothing to gain from your line of opinion on me. You dont know me dont judge me.

As for ladysians line of work i have no problem with it she can do what she likes but just as she has her rights i have mine and if i choose to be of the opinion that she works in the sex industry so be it.


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RE: can someone explain this to me?? - 9/25/2006 3:55:19 PM   
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I would agree with that.  If someone wants to pay tribute of 250 dollars they want that fantasy that you are really hot to abuse them.  That's where the role playing comes in.  I know a pro dom and he is one of the best.  You have to be an actor at times to make the customers fantasies come true.  That way they come back for more.

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RE: can someone explain this to me?? - 9/25/2006 3:56:38 PM   
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I spent a few years as a proffessional Dominatrix.  I worked for a erotic/exotic entertainment company, that had it's own dungeon, although, I often went to the clients residence, as well (we did have a LOT of safety measures).  I can honestly say, it is a wonderful way to make a living.  Do not confuse it with your social life.  Your clients (and that is what they are), pay for your services.  Make sure your services are listed specifically, do not undermine yourself or your abilities.  One price for all, though.  IF your client treats you with less than respect, drop him/her.  As with all companies, there are the ones that make it, and the ones that won't (scab companies).

To any who have the misconception that this is escorting, prostitution or anything sexual in nature, please ask before stating your opinion.  It is a very difficult career, and the men and women that choose it have to fend off the negativity of the public as it is, they shouldn't have to fend it off in a forum that should be more supportive, because we all have similiar lifestyle.

One last comment.. since I'm getting lengthly: to all that chose that life, find who you are, before selling your services... and hold on to it, because sometimes the industry can eat you alive.

(as to my inevitable spelling errors, I'm sorry.. I sometimes type too fast without care!)

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RE: can someone explain this to me?? - 9/25/2006 3:59:24 PM   
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I would never go as low as 50 dollars for a session.  I am going at lower rates right now because I am new at dommign and jsut now going pro, but thats not nearly enough.  As was pointed out, the expense of setting up that business can add up.  And it is work, not like factory work but still work.  I , myself , wouldnt accept anything less than 125 until I get better at it then the rates are going up.  

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RE: can someone explain this to me?? - 9/25/2006 4:09:12 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: WhyteRavenne

It is a very difficult career, and the men and women that choose it have to fend off the negativity of the public as it is, they shouldn't have to fend it off in a forum that should be more supportive, because we all have similiar lifestyle.


This was posted in response to me, but Im thinking maybe it was not directly in response to my post, but in case it was...

I was not being negative. I was being realistic. Pro dommes are professionals who are providing a service. Tribute is given for an experience. If a client is not satisfied with the level of service, he is free to shop elsewhere, just like in any other service industry.


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RE: can someone explain this to me?? - 9/25/2006 4:14:45 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: WhyteRavenne

It is a very difficult career, and the men and women that choose it have to fend off the negativity of the public as it is, they shouldn't have to fend it off in a forum that should be more supportive, because we all have similiar lifestyle.


This was posted in response to me, but Im thinking maybe it was not directly in response to my post, but in case it was...

I was not being negative. I was being realistic. Pro dommes are professionals who are providing a service. Tribute is given for an experience. If a client is not satisfied with the level of service, he is free to shop elsewhere, just like in any other service industry.



My Dear, JustHeather,
Please do not think it was directed at you, to be honest, it was more directed at the people who took my job choice for granted and I allowed it to embitter me towards it.
I think everyone on here are lovely people, and look forward to all opinions.  That being said.. I should probably find out what you DID say... *giggle* 
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RE: can someone explain this to me?? - 9/25/2006 4:19:30 PM   
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I would never go as low as 50 dollars for a session.  I am going at lower rates right now because I am new at dommign and jsut now going pro, but thats not nearly enough.  As was pointed out, the expense of setting up that business can add up.  And it is work, not like factory work but still work.  I , myself , wouldnt accept anything less than 125 until I get better at it then the rates are going up.  



I know I should just shut up but being the person I am....
Whats wrong with only charging 50.00 bucks for a session(1hour).

I am a Pro who does not charge a lot of money,why because I am not in it to make money to survive,I am in it to help people fulfill the side of them that needs attention.Why charge at all...toys,clothing and equipment cost money.

To the person(s) who think We are hookers/whores...Perhaps a hint of jealousy that We are talented enough to make a living at it if We so choose to.

Unless you have had a session with a Pro you cannot say what happens there...just because its your opinion that sex is part of  it doesnt make it so.So until you have proof of what goes on...I would say you should keep your mouth shut...but that is just My opinion.

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RE: can someone explain this to me?? - 9/25/2006 4:23:27 PM   
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Whyte:

When you reply to the last post, it shows up as being in response to that particular post. Usually people will say "Fast reply" or something like that to indicate that they are just responding to the thread and not the particular post onwhich they hit the "reply" button.

I was almost sure you werent talking to me but I wanted to be completely sure.

Yes, please do check out my response, as my posts are always brilliant, hightly informative and witty. HA!


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RE: can someone explain this to me?? - 9/25/2006 4:26:55 PM   
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To the person(s) who think We are hookers/whores...Perhaps a hint of jealousy that We are talented enough to make a living at it if We so choose to.

Unless you have had a session with a Pro you cannot say what happens there...just because its your opinion that sex is part of  it doesnt make it so.So until you have proof of what goes on...I would say you should keep your mouth shut...but that is just My opinion.

Lmao - way too sensitive

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RE: can someone explain this to me?? - 9/25/2006 4:41:51 PM   
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Hmmmmm sensitive no,but it would be justified the way Pros are attacked here daily.I am however sick of narrow minded people,who apparently think their opinion is the truth.

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RE: can someone explain this to me?? - 9/25/2006 4:48:05 PM   
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Fair enough but my opinion is just that my opinion.
I'm certainly not against pro dom / dommes - each to their own and for those who make a living out of it good on them.
I have noticed that a lot of people have on their profiles no contact from pro's as they are seen as nothing more than prostitutes so its not just my opinion alone that they are working in the sex industry whichever way its dressed.
I certainly have no right to judge them having worked in the sex industry myself and would not do so.
 

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RE: can someone explain this to me?? - 9/25/2006 4:58:31 PM   
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Thank goodness My 'worms' dont think of Me that way.
There would be some pretty red bottoms.
slave bishop doesnt see Me as a hooker either,she sees Me as the incredible Mistress that I am.
I'm sure their opinions are biased though as they actually know Me.

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RE: can someone explain this to me?? - 9/25/2006 5:03:06 PM   
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Mistress Sissy!! You have worms?? Get a good ointment and lots of vitamin D
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RE: can someone explain this to me?? - 9/25/2006 5:15:33 PM   
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Mistress Sissy!! You have worms?? Get a good ointment and lots of vitamin D
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Is that how you treat them...slather them with ointment and then what pour milk on them???  LMAO That almost sounds like fun...messy but fun

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RE: can someone explain this to me?? - 9/25/2006 5:19:24 PM   
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LOL   good cumback Ma'am - and good humour
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RE: can someone explain this to me?? - 9/25/2006 5:28:18 PM   
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While there are ProDommes who do have sex whether it be oral or otherwise with their clients, it isn't fair to condemn all Professionals for this.  To do this is to say that women deserve to be raped and abused because they wear bikinis to the beach.  And unless and until you know a person, making that judgement is totally unfair and ingorant.

BDSM is can be about sex but not always.  Mostly its about the power exchange between two consenting (one hopes) people.  But it is up to the couple-mainly the Dominant-to decide what will lead where and when.

What bothers Me the most when people criticize another's choices is that we who practice BDSM are condemned for our beliefs.  To come onto a site like this where we can be open about our sexuality and other practices is a Goddess-send.  When someone takes that voice and trashes another just because they believe differently they are acting much like the ignorant public who believe we are all deviants when in fact, we just enjoy different relationships.  I can't understand this mindset-why would someone put down someone else in this lifestyle of freedom?  As long as people are safe and responsible, who cares?

Who let the religious freak in here, anyway?

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RE: can someone explain this to me?? - 9/25/2006 5:31:25 PM   
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LOL   good cumback Ma'am - and good humour
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Hey if I rolled them in bread crumbs after do you think they would deep fry to a crispy golden brown???
I'm a Mainah of course I have a sense of humah...have too when you live here...LOL  Besides laughing keeps you warm....and old man wintah is cummin 

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RE: can someone explain this to me?? - 9/25/2006 5:38:38 PM   
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"why would someone put down someone else in this lifestyle of freedom?  As long as people are safe and responsible, who cares? "


Thats exactly how I feel.

Hank Williams Sr song has this line...If you mind your own business,you'll be to busy to be minding mine"  Now theres a smart guy.


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RE: can someone explain this to me?? - 9/25/2006 7:03:36 PM   
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hook‧er1  /ˈhʊkər/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[hook-er] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun 1.a person or thing that hooks. 2.Slang. prostitute. 3.Slang. a large drink of liquor. 4.Slang. a concealed problem, flaw, or drawback; a catch. 5.Rugby. a player who hooks the ball in the front line of scrummage. 6.(initial capital letter) Offensive. an Amish Mennonite.
[Origin: 1560–70; 1835–45, American for def. 2; hook1 + -er1]

Which brings me to my next definition:

pros‧ti‧tute  /ˈprɒstɪˌtut, -ˌtyut/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[pros-ti-toot, -tyoot] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation noun, verb, -tut‧ed, -tut‧ing.
–noun 1.a woman who engages in sexual intercourse for money; whore; harlot. 2.a man who engages in sexual acts for money. 3.a person who willingly uses his or her talent or ability in a base and unworthy way, usually for money. –verb (used with object) 4.to sell or offer (oneself) as a prostitute. 5.to put to any base or unworthy use: to prostitute one's talents.
[Origin: 1520–30; < L prōstitūta, n. use of fem. of prōstitūtus, ptp. of prōstituere to expose (for sale), equiv. to prō- pro-1 + -stitū-, comb. form of var. s. of statuere to cause to stand + -tus ptp. suffix; see status]

Your opinion is your opinion, mis....but at least get your words straight.

She says she does not have intercourse or traditional sexual contact with her clients.  She is a ProDomme/Domina/Dominatrix.

1. Dominatrix 135 up, 6 down
(n) 1. a woman who practices BDSM in everyday life; a woman who controls her partner mentally and physically, usually in a sexual way. Vanilla people categorize this type of lifestyle as kinky. The Dominatrix is stereotypically pictured as wearing stilleto boots, black leather outfit, and hold a whip.

2. a woman who gets paid to control a person, usually in a sexual way.

3. female counterpart of a Dom The Dominatrix tied her slave to the bedpost and prepared to whip his ass. by BlackGoddess Dec 11, 2003 email it permalink:
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2. Dominatrix 43 up, 7 down
A dominant woman or TS that administers discipline, shows control.

A woman who physically and psychologically dominates and abuses her partner. Bondage, Discipline, Sado Masochisim. Billy needs to be punished by his Dominatrix.

Here's a couple more definitions to help clarify my point a bit.

sex‧u‧al  /ˈsɛkʃuəl or, especially Brit., ˈsɛksyu-/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[sek-shoo-uhl or, especially Brit., seks-yoo-] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–adjective 1.of, pertaining to, or for sex: sexual matters; sexual aids. 2.occurring between or involving the sexes: sexual relations. 3.having sexual organs or reproducing by processes involving both sexes.
[Origin: 1645–55; < LL sexuālis, equiv. to sexu(s) sex + -ālis -al1]

sex  /sɛks/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[seks] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun 1.either the male or female division of a species, esp. as differentiated with reference to the reproductive functions. 2.the sum of the structural and functional differences by which the male and female are distinguished, or the phenomena or behavior dependent on these differences. 3.the instinct or attraction drawing one sex toward another, or its manifestation in life and conduct. 4.coitus. 5.genitalia. –verb (used with object) 6.to ascertain the sex of, esp. of newly-hatched chicks. —Verb phrase7.sex up, Informal. a.to arouse sexually: The only intent of that show was to sex up the audience. b.to increase the appeal of; to make more interesting, attractive, or exciting: We've decided to sex up the movie with some battle scenes. —Idiom8.to have sex, to engage in sexual intercourse.
While being a ProDomme means gratifying something generallyof a sexual nature for the client, it is not having sex, so no, she is not a hooker or a prostitute.  She is a ProDomme.  She has a job, and she does it.  Now if you want to get into semantics, and down to the nitty gritty, One that DOES have sex in the mix while they are ProDom/ming, then, as much as some to most might not like it, they would technically be able to be lumped into the hooker/prostitute definitions.

While your opinion is yours, and you are more than welcome to it, like it or not, technically and semantically, you are wrong.



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