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Bad Kisser - 9/26/2006 11:26:03 AM   
LotusSong


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Bad kissers.   How do you approach it?  Subs.. would you  take it for as long as you could and say-

"Yanno, Master/Mistress,  I  would like to talk to you about something".. or do you just suffer through?  I think most of us (way back when they first invented sex) learned from bad porno movies and did what it LOOKED like they were doing.
 
To the M/Mm- what would you do if your sub wanted to teach you something VERY basic that he/she felt you needed to enjoy you more.
 
I, fortunately, had a wonderful tutor :) - or so I'm told.

I have a friend, who upon the first meeting with her master, said he gave head like he was chewing on a cob of corn. 



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RE: Bad Kisser - 9/26/2006 11:31:03 AM   
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I have a friend, who upon the first meeting with her master, said he gave head like he was chewing on a cob of corn. 




*chuckles* now that was a visual I could do without ;)....I have had the experience of the hard lipped-bump kisser (not sure how else to describe it). I adore kissing so have been working on that wee problem. I blame this lack of smooching expertise on the education system and the conservative party.

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RE: Bad Kisser - 9/26/2006 11:45:30 AM   
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I have a friend, who upon the first meeting with her master, said he gave head like he was chewing on a cob of corn. 




*chuckles* now that was a visual I could do without ;)....I have had the experience of the hard lipped-bump kisser (not sure how else to describe it). I adore kissing so have been working on that wee problem. I blame this lack of smooching expertise on the education system and the conservative party.


Sorry about that :)   I was watching a program where they had a kissing expert on.  He suggested kissing one's image in a mirror.  It gages how close one is to his subject. And also, make a "mouth" with your hand  (like when you draw the face on it and make it talk) and practice kissing that so he knows what his kiss feels like.
 
If nothing else...this thread will give people ideas on how they can test their own kissing prowess in privacy.  It never hurts to check :)
 
(but wouldn't you just love a vid of it?)

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RE: Bad Kisser - 9/26/2006 11:50:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		I feel like the stud walking with a confident open chest saying this, but I'm a pretty awesome kisser...  But if I were not, I wouldn't mind a guy saying try it this way.   M

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RE: Bad Kisser - 9/26/2006 11:52:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		Wow that would be a tough one! I would think I would be forced to bring it up in what ever open communication forum we have agreed on. Either a sit down conversation and even if desparate writing it in a journal.

Actually that is interesting because of the dynamic. I think I am remembering correctly but aren't men taught/suppose to feed off what the woman is doing when kissing her. Whether soft or hard, tongue action and anything else, but D/s dynamic could sometimes interfere with this?





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RE: Bad Kisser - 9/26/2006 11:54:58 AM   
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I tend to pay close attention to things, and after somebody I was with years ago complained about my kissing, I started thinking about it.

I realized that I was not overly interested in playing tonsil hockey with a toilet plunger, so why would I think the woman I was kissing did?

Then I started going on the idea that "Less Is More" and begin lightly nibbling on her lips.  Running my tongue lazily over her tongue and teeth and the like.  Soft kisses.  What ended up happening was I would feel her body melt into mine.  I would melt back.

As the tempo amped up, I would start kissing more fiercely, all the while avoiding the urge to emulate plumbing tools.  Grab a firm handful of her hair at the base of her skull, twist slightly, and pull her head back and over to take advantage of my height.  Kiss her firmly on the lips.  Being a dancer, I would sometimes dip her so she would feel that suspension, and attendant helplessness and reliance on me not dropping her on her head, on my firm arm as she lay back.  I did that to somebody once who described her reaction to my doing that as "puddle."

Feedback I get now is that those few I kiss tend to really enjoy it.  Which was the goal I was aiming for.

Just me, etc.

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RE: Bad Kisser - 9/26/2006 12:01:38 PM   
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RE: Bad Kisser - 9/26/2006 12:17:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yep.. good approach, Sinergy :)
 
I remember my first kiss.  My friend  had invited two guys over to shoot pool in her rec-room.  Well, I was sitting on the couch by one of the guys (who was soooooooooooo cute). He leaned over and planted my very first French Kiss on me!  I had NO idea what the hell he was doing and my tongue just retreated to the back of my throat.  The poor guy pulled away gently and asked "Don't you like me"?  I stammered "well Yes... I've just never been kissed before."  To which he turns to my girlfriend (who was the school tart and my best friend at the time) "You gave me a Virgin???" 
 
The nice part was he than proceeded to teach me and talk to me about hows and whys and demoed :)  I am very thankful to this day.  Never saw him again..but what the hey, evidently, that was his purpose for meeting me in the grand design of things :)
 
I had tried the "I'm kissing you like I want you to kiss me" concept.. but all that got me was the Other kisser just kissing me more like he did, thinking I liked it.  I finally just had to bring it to a stop and talk. 
 
Nobody is born knowing these things... and you have to learn them from somewhere.  And what better gift than to just share what you know.


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RE: Bad Kisser - 9/26/2006 12:43:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sir is quite a good kisser, however i have been kissed by some that left much to the yawning department.  When i am kissed i want to know i have been kissed, i want to feel it all the way to my toes and back.  P.S.  Sinergy could You send one of those kisses my way just for a test drive dang sound really nice ok fantastic.

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RE: Bad Kisser - 9/26/2006 12:48:24 PM   
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P.S.  Sinergy could You send one of those kisses my way just for a test drive dang sound really nice ok fantastic.


Yeah..(sigh)  I know he'd have to prove his prowess to me too in the kissing department.. :)  You know how these Doms are.. they talk a good game  (all said tongue in cheek here.. he does sound tasty! )

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RE: Bad Kisser - 9/26/2006 12:52:25 PM   
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Hello A/all,

I tend to pay close attention to things, and after somebody I was with years ago complained about my kissing, I started thinking about it.

I realized that I was not overly interested in playing tonsil hockey with a toilet plunger, so why would I think the woman I was kissing did?

Then I started going on the idea that "Less Is More" and begin lightly nibbling on her lips.  Running my tongue lazily over her tongue and teeth and the like.  Soft kisses.  What ended up happening was I would feel her body melt into mine.  I would melt back.

As the tempo amped up, I would start kissing more fiercely, all the while avoiding the urge to emulate plumbing tools.  Grab a firm handful of her hair at the base of her skull, twist slightly, and pull her head back and over to take advantage of my height.  Kiss her firmly on the lips.  Being a dancer, I would sometimes dip her so she would feel that suspension, and attendant helplessness and reliance on me not dropping her on her head, on my firm arm as she lay back.  I did that to somebody once who described her reaction to my doing that as "puddle."

Feedback I get now is that those few I kiss tend to really enjoy it.  Which was the goal I was aiming for.

Just me, etc.

Sinergy


Reminds me of the Friends episode where Monica and Rachel try to teach Chandler what to do in foreplay and end up getting themselves all worked up thinking about it. Sounds absolutely yummy sinergy. Thanks for planting that in my mind on a boring Tuesday.

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RE: Bad Kisser - 9/26/2006 12:53:36 PM   
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P.S.  Sinergy could You send one of those kisses my way just for a test drive dang sound really nice ok fantastic.


Yeah..(sigh)  I know he'd have to prove his prowess to me too in the kissing department.. :)  You know how these Doms are.. they talk a good game  (all said tongue in cheek here.. he does sound tasty! )


He is

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RE: Bad Kisser - 9/26/2006 1:11:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		Cold-hearted that I am, I've dumped guys who couldn't kiss.  I figure, if they aren't sensual in the kissing department, going the rest of the way isn't going to be very sensual, either.   I'm talking about the guys who were REALLY bad.  Most of the rest of them just needed a little polishing, and I love the ones who gave me some polishing of my own.

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RE: Bad Kisser - 9/26/2006 1:12:51 PM   
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Cold-hearted that I am, I've dumped guys who couldn't kiss.  I figure, if they aren't sensual in the kissing department, going the rest of the way isn't going to be very sensual, either.   I'm talking about the guys who were REALLY bad.  Most of the rest of them just needed a little polishing, and I love the ones who gave me some polishing of my own.


But what if they don't KNOW they are bad?

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RE: Bad Kisser - 9/26/2006 1:15:33 PM   
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Yeah..(sigh)  I know he'd have to prove his prowess to me too in the kissing department.. :)  You know how these Doms are.. they talk a good game  (all said tongue in cheek here.. he does sound tasty! )


He is


(Heavy Sigh) I'm a bit busy right now but I can work him in.  This could take awhile..maybe days.. maybe weeks :)  This is a selfless act on my part for the benefit of research and science.

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RE: Bad Kisser - 9/26/2006 1:17:35 PM   
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RE: Bad Kisser - 9/26/2006 1:26:07 PM   
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well- it is a plus- to be single in that i can have bad breath AND fart- and its all good.   right??  shtt, nevermind.


Not if THAT is what you call a kiss :) 
 
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RE: Bad Kisser - 9/26/2006 1:33:43 PM   
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But what if they don't KNOW they are bad?


It is my experience that those who say they love kissing and hint that they are good at it - are NOT!! 

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RE: Bad Kisser - 9/26/2006 1:39:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		ild say it depends on the mood.

a very light kiss can stimulate the senses as much as a huegely passionate.

im a bad kisser but a great flirt. raise corner of eyebrow 1/4 inch- and that "look".  must be like hiding in plain site.

im out of practice anyhow.

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RE: Bad Kisser - 9/26/2006 1:40:53 PM   
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Dang... is it hot in here or is it just me, now?

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