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RE: Dom: I do not want you trod thru the flowers. If yo... - 9/29/2006 7:24:16 PM   
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  i just don't get it

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RE: Dom: I do not want you trod thru the flowers. If yo... - 9/29/2006 7:59:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: mstrjx

One of 3 (or more) things is happening here.

1)  You're illustrating that 'punishment' should not be enjoyed, or else it will continue the behavior.

2)  You're illustrating that a fundamental lack of communication, either given or received, will be the downfall of a relationship

-or-

3)  You're being even more obtuse than I can consider, and I don't know what the hell you're talking about.

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I dont know Jeff.. I think I am going to have to go with 3 on this one


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RE: Dom: I do not want you trod thru the flowers. If yo... - 9/29/2006 8:07:16 PM   
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Is it just me, or is the hypothetical Dom an idiot for providing the reward? Fast talking attempts or circular logic should be smitten rapidly lest that example becomes reality.

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RE: Dom: I do not want you trod thru the flowers. If yo... - 9/29/2006 8:19:32 PM   
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ORIGINAL: sophia37

What just happened here? You just discovered your sub is Tiny Tim! 

OMG this made me howl!!!!!! 


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RE: Dom: I do not want you trod thru the flowers. If yo... - 9/30/2006 12:46:29 AM   
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???????? Are You for real???????? Naw can't be lol not unless we meet soon love to be spanked, hate to step on the flowers kind of pick a flower and do the to be spanked, no spanking thing with the petals.  Dang even that is a bit tooooooo wanting.  Sir gives me what i need not necessarily what i want.

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RE: Dom: I do not want you trod thru the flowers. If yo... - 9/30/2006 4:53:28 AM   
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ok this one isn't even funny 

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RE: Dom: I do not want you trod thru the flowers. If yo... - 9/30/2006 7:03:53 AM   
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...well , I found it amusing.

The part that would be most alien to me would be being offered a reward for doing what I was supposed to...It'd be nice though......ahem Master.....(says it a bit louder)....... REALLY NICE....grin

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RE: Dom: I do not want you trod thru the flowers. If yo... - 9/30/2006 8:53:51 AM   
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***quick reply***

I chalk it up to two people who fail to communicate their desire in a straight forward manner.  This in turn has left one mildly frustrated and the other getting exactly what they wanted by way of a loop hole by which to jump through.  Hardly a scenario good for the whole.

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RE: Dom: I do not want you trod thru the flowers. If yo... - 9/30/2006 11:01:56 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: SirDiscipliner69

Dom: I do not want you trod thru the flowers. If you do not I will reward you by spanking you.
sub: Ok. I like to be spanked.

Dom: I looked at the flowers and they have been trod on this morning.
sub: I walked thru them not trod. Thank you for the spanking last night.

Dom: I do not want you trod or walk thru the flowers. If you do not I will reward you by spanking you.
sub: Ok. I like to be spanked.

Dom: I looked at the flowers and they have been trod or walked thru this morning.
sub: I did not trod or walk the the flowers. I tip toed thru the flowers. Thank you for the spanking last night.

Dom: I do not want you trod, walk or tip toe thru the flowers. If you do not I will reward you by spanking you.
sub: Ok. I like to be spanked.

Dom: I looked at the flowers and they have been trod, walked or tip toed thru this morning.
sub: I did not trod, walk or tip toed thru the flowers. I skipped thru the flowers. Thank you for the spanking last night.

Dom: Enough is enough.
sub: I like to be spanked.

What has happened here with the semantical trodding?

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What has happened here is that you have failed to grasp the concept of don't give a reward that isn't earned. The flowers were walked on and you spanked anyway. Unless your sub is mentally challenged and therefore can not understand that walking and tip-toeing are the same thing, no spankings should have been given as they were supposed to be the reward.

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RE: Dom: I do not want you trod thru the flowers. If yo... - 9/30/2006 11:34:39 AM   
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~Fast Reply~

What has happened is I have been singing Tiptoe Through the Tulips ever since Sophia posted.


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RE: Dom: I do not want you trod thru the flowers. If yo... - 9/30/2006 4:28:18 PM   
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I liked this and it gave me something to think about all day.  It wasn't until I was making dinner tonight that what went on hit me.

Simply put, the sub in question was not focused on pleasing the Dominant in question but was focused on what he/she could do for him/her.

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RE: Dom: I do not want you trod thru the flowers. If yo... - 10/1/2006 5:14:38 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: SirDiscipliner69
Dom: I do not want you trod thru the flowers. If you do not I will reward you by spanking you.
sub: Ok. I like to be spanked.

So let's change the dynamics> The flowers actually represent playing with others without letting the Dom know beforehand as agreed  to by the sub in an ongoing relationship.

Now what?

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RE: Dom: I do not want you trod thru the flowers. If yo... - 10/1/2006 5:28:52 AM   
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well i know where my arse would be. and it'd be sore from landing in the f'en gutter not from spanking.

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RE: Dom: I do not want you trod thru the flowers. If yo... - 10/1/2006 9:28:55 AM   
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You need to find yourself a new s-type?

Changing the situation doesn't change that the s-type in the dialog is disobeying in spirit, if not in actual, spesific letter. If  I ever acted like that my Owner would be doing some serious thinking about my desire to belong to him.

This doesnt' seem like a very complicated situation, why all the smoke and mirrors?


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RE: Dom: I do not want you trod thru the flowers. If yo... - 10/1/2006 9:31:12 AM   
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ORIGINAL: gypsylee

well i know where my arse would be. and it'd be sore from landing in the f'en gutter not from spanking.

Amen.  In my case it was not a reward for remaining committed, it was "You let anyone touch you without my permission and you're gone."

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RE: Dom: I do not want you trod thru the flowers. If yo... - 10/1/2006 10:01:54 AM   
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I don't see how changing the situation changes anything except that, as has as someone has already alluded to, it seems odd to reward someone for living up to a mutual agreement.  And, its problematic to play word games in the act of breaking a mutual agreement.

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RE: Dom: I do not want you trod thru the flowers. If yo... - 10/1/2006 11:03:58 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Iskander

Aside from the incorrect use of 'trod' you mean?





A failure to grasp the concept of tense?

To tread.

Will tread.

Is treading.

Was treading.

Has Trod.

Otherwise, it appears to be a parable about the perils of not applying dicipline consistently?

i.e., the punishment would seem to be to withhold spanking in this instance, and yet it appears the naughty sub was spanked anyway, which could only be seen as encouraging of further embarkation in demolitionary floratic safaris.

< Message edited by Amaros -- 10/1/2006 11:06:06 AM >

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RE: Dom: I do not want you trod thru the flowers. If yo... - 10/1/2006 8:40:03 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: SirDiscipliner69

quote:

ORIGINAL: SirDiscipliner69
Dom: I do not want you trod thru the flowers. If you do not I will reward you by spanking you.
sub: Ok. I like to be spanked.

So let's change the dynamics> The flowers actually represent playing with others without letting the Dom know beforehand as agreed  to by the sub in an ongoing relationship.

Now what?

Ross

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Then your sub cheated and why did you continue to stay with her and reward her?

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RE: Dom: I do not want you trod thru the flowers. If yo... - 10/2/2006 6:19:17 AM   
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i don't have rules against playing with others.  Nor rules about who to chat, mail or IM with.  He says "I only own what I own. If you give it to another, I never really owned it after all, did I?"  

Leaves that ball squarely in my court, works for U/us.

One question, why is the spank thing offered with each discussion?  Aren't there any parts of this dynamic that aren't related to carrots?

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RE: Dom: I do not want you trod thru the flowers. If yo... - 10/2/2006 10:46:17 AM   
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i'm wondering why everyone thinks the spankings are a punishment.  It states clearly that the spankings are a reward and that the sub received a reward because they were not honest with the Dom.  What has happened here?  A lack of communication and a smart assed masochist.  The Dom should have realized the sub was going to disobey no matter what and that a lesson needed to be taught in one way or another.  Specifying instructions is fine, but in this situation, the sub knew that what they were doing was wrong and were trying to get away with something.

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