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Wax Play - 10/1/2006 7:38:07 AM

nightrosemom

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Master and i experimented with wax play last night, and as increidably enjoyable as it was, it was a pain to clean up...any ideas on how to make it easier to clean. i ended up standing in the shower with warm water scratching it off my body lol...also we would like some ideas on how to clean up the mess around...i.e. furnature that gets wax on it during the play. if anyone could help that would be wonderful.

Thanks

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RE: Wax Play - 10/1/2006 7:45:13 AM

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Always best to cover up the surroundings with an old shower curtain before beginning wax play.

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RE: Wax Play - 10/1/2006 7:46:29 AM

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Ok, any ideas on the clean up of the body?

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RE: Wax Play - 10/1/2006 7:49:35 AM

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If you apply oil or lotion first, then it is easier. Also, if you combine that with a sort of mummification with Saran wrap, the sensation of the wax still comes through without actually having it on your body.

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RE: Wax Play - 10/1/2006 7:57:37 AM

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we have not tried wax play as of yet. i had a bad experience once due to using the wrong kind of candles so it's not high on our 'to do' list.
but i have had a lot of experience in cleaning wax off of inanimate objects. Pampered chef sells a cleaning tool with all of their stoneware baking dishes. it's a square plastic scraper with a bevelled edge that will get under just about anything; it works great on wood, tile, glass etc...if you get it on cloth there are several techniques. you can freeze it and flake it off if the item in question is small enough to place in your freezer. if the item is heat tolerant (velvet and most synthetics are not) you can use an iron. first place a bunch of folded paper towels under the waxed spot and do the same on top. next with fairly high heat, iron the spot. do not rub the spot. when the paper towel has absorbed all it's going to, discard those towels and repeat with clean ones. don't reuse the towels by moving to a clean spot on the paer. doing so may transfer wax to a clean spot and cause even more work. when you're not getting any more wax absorbed into the paper towels, use a spot remover (dry cleaning fluid for non-washables, or something like shout for washable) and then clean as directed for that particular fabric. hth

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RE: Wax Play - 10/1/2006 8:18:00 AM

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hello, i had the benefit of learning about wax play from classes taught by the educational group i belong to -- Black Rose -- in Washington DC. i have no idea where you live (didn't read your profile before replying to the post), but it is too bad you didn't have the opportunity to learn from a class like that.

If you had prepared properly, cleanup would not have been a problem at all. We have areas in our local dungeon (in Washington DC -- The Crucible -- another reason we are very lucky in this area ) that are set up specifically for wax play. Wax play should be done on a table such as a massage table, and it can be covered by what are called "chucks" which are disposable sheets that they use in hospitals (blue plastic on the bottom side, white, cottony substance on the top side) or at home you can use an old shower curtain (or a new one you purchase just for that use) at the bottom and cover it with an old sheet you don't care about if the shower curtain is uncomfortable for you -- when it gets too much wax on it, throw it out and use another one. But the chucks are the best for something comfortable that can be thrown away.

As for making clean up of yourself easier, you should be rubbed down with baby oil first. For me, that actually helps put me into sub space, too. Then, after the wax play, the wax easily comes off when rubbed or peeled. i don't know if you are into knife play (not cutting, but caressing the body with the edge of a knife) but i enjoy having the wax removed with a knife. if the sub/bottom is coated with baby oil, it comes off very easily, and is part of the scene -- quite a nice way to end the scene. then after you have come down from sub space, had your aftercare with your Sir, you can just shower off the baby oil, or leave it on as you see fit. Also, if you are playing at home or at a dungeon that allows it, you can even have sex after play!!! (Big smile!)

As far as cleaning up the wax from things like furniture or carpet, we learned that too, but i don't remember, because i have never had to do it! i think for clothing, you are supposed to freeze it and then break or scrape it off? i could be wrong. or something about putting a cloth you don't care about on top of the wax mark and using an iron to re-heat the wax and soak it into the cloth you put on top of the mark.

The classes that i have attended at Black Rose (i suggest you do a search for them if you are interested because i don't think collarme will allow me to post their website, even thought it is a non-profit group) have always been taught by a marvelous man and his wife, who are experts at it. We call him Wax Man. if you like, please write to me here on collarme (honeyjar - profile listed in Alexandria VA, submissive) and i will try to put you in touch with Wax Man and his wife Wax Gal.

respectfully,
honeyjar

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RE: Wax Play - 10/1/2006 9:24:12 AM

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A good flogging tends to do a pretty good job of removing wax.

The whole 'kill two birds...' thing.

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RE: Wax Play - 10/1/2006 9:25:37 AM

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Rubbed down with baby oil and drizzled with warm paraffin. Oh, don't throw me in the brier patch!

Wax can be peeled off skin with the edge of a knife. Doesn't have to be a sharp knife -- in fact, I think you can use a credit card, but that takes some of the fun out of it.

A good sized painting tarp is darned handy for wax play -- wise to cover up the carpet, whatever else you do.

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RE: Wax Play - 10/1/2006 10:44:21 AM

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Thank you all for the advice, this will be a big help for the next time we play. (i really like the idea of the knife and also the flogging *giggles*) Master stood over my shoulder and read everything too! *smiles* thanks again

His lil angel

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RE: Wax Play - 10/1/2006 11:25:20 AM

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http://www.collarchat.com/m_154985/mpage_1/key_wax%252Cplay/tm.htm#155014
Wax Play

Wax Play
This is my general wax play design, easily modifiable if you want to
include multiple people.

Supplies: wax, long tip lighter, sheet or tarp, baby oil, knife,
baby powder, blindfold, (if using a crock pot, ladle, spatula,
paintbrush, any other spreading toys that look interesting)

Get the wax: Either two blocks of paraffin and two glassed church
candles melted together in a crock pot, or just the church candles
for easier transporting. I haven't noticed much temperature
derivation using these types of candles, but white wax is harder to
see where it falls and green tends to just look black on a person.
Start prep at least 2 hours before the scene by lighting the candles
or starting the wax to melt. If the candles are cold, it will take
longer and the wax won't melt as evenly

Prep the area: Flat surface is necessary, a bondage or massage
table usually works fine and is padded. Outside is nice because you
don't have to worry about getting wax on anything. If you are on
the floor, put a flannel sheet or comforter down first to keep
things from being too cold. Cover with an old sheet or tarp, and if
you're off the floor, cover the area nearby as well. Wax will get
everywhere! Lay out all supplies beforehand, you don't want to have
to leave burning candles or naked person alone too long. Also, make
sure your area is well-heated. Even though the wax will get them
warm and give them a nice shell, when it comes off they will feel
the cooler air.

Prep the people: Don't wear your good fetish gear! Again, wax will
get everywhere. For the waxer, wear throw away clothes and/or an
apron. For the waxee, get them naked and blindfolded. I like to
have their focus totally on the wax sensations and you don't have to
worry about wax splattering into eyes. Lay them down on the
surface, starting stomach down usually works best.

Start the scene: Start to connect with the bottom by massaging
their skin, letting them relax into position and get used to your
touch. Massage the baby oil onto their skin. Not only does this
feel yummy, but prevents wax from painfully sticking to hair and
makes it much easier to peel or scrape off. Once you're fully into
the scene, you can get into the wax.

Waxing: I start generally about 18 inches above the persons skin.
Get a good full layer all over their body. Be careful about
dripping on the sides as the skin is more sensitive. Once you've
established an initial layer, you can have more fun with sensations,
bringing the wax lower or higher to build heat (the higher the wax,
the more the splatter). You can paint the wax on, let it drip
slowly or just wash it over them with a ladle. The feet are also
lots of fun. On the stomach, be careful of the belly button.
Sometimes it's good just to put a plug of wax in there or cover it
with a cotton ball.

Removing wax: Wax is likely to still be slightly soft and pliable.
If you're peeling the wax, getting as much in one motion is a very
awesome feeling for the sub. Slowly start at the edges and pull up,
gathering the wax as you go. If you scrape, just press down gently
and pull towards the wax and down. There's always a few drips and
splatters to scrape off. If you've used oil, it should come off
fairly easily. Don't try to get off every piece of wax- a good
shower will do the best job at that.

After the wax: Once you've removed the wax, I sprinkle babypowder
all over the skin. The skin is very sensitive at this point and the
cool softness of the powder feels like rose petals just falling
down. You can rub the powder in and smooth over the skin. This
will help dry off some of the oil as well.

If you want to reuse your sheet, put it in the freezer to freeze the
wax, take it outside and get as much as you can off by shaking or
pulling it. Then toss in the washer and drier to remove the rest.

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RE: Wax Play - 10/1/2006 11:46:42 AM

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Dear nightrosemom, honeyjar, Ladies and Gentlemen;

Before I start-- {{waves to honeyjar}}.

Wax that has colors in them are going to burn differently, as the colors are made of chemicals. Heat and chemicals will create a different sort of heat.

Some whip makers, such as Lori from ToyBag dot com, use to have candles specificly for waxing. A softer wax that was easier to peel off.

Baby oil is indeed the standard pre waxing scene application. You want to avoid alcohol based products. Some put wax paper on top of the victim and drop the wax onto it. The sensation is a wee bit different. But wax on skin is the 'old fashioned way.'

I will warn folks, that wax chips and such plays havoc on plumbing, as the hot water warms it enough to go fluid but, once in the pipes and in the lowest center of gravity, such as the 'trap' it builds. It is best to clean outside or in a baby pool then dump the water outside. The exception is if you have a dedicated shower with pipes that shoot straight out--sort of like RV trailers.

Candy thermometers are a bonus. Wax can catch on fire when it reaches to it's flash point. Most use crock pots to then laddle the wax out. Drizzling it onto a slave's body. Some drip from church candles, the ones in glass. Some just need to be held higher so it cools somewhat in between the lip of the glass and onto the person.

Now--for those with hair. One reason why baby oil helps, it coats hair as well as skin. For those lovely furry folks, knife takes too long.
My preference is 'fish scaling gloves' which also makes for great torture grabbing on sensitive goodie parts other than scaling off wax. It also combs to hair won't be pulled painfully so much. Shaved, then it isn't much of a problem. Female's makeup combs, those itty bitty eyebrow combs works lovely! Fine tooth combs work as well. If you don't have that handly, use burlap. One can also use grooming mits (dog/horse/cat grooming mits). Those plastic dish scrubs work as well.

If there are some romantic sorts or sentimental sorts about, once you peel off the wax, you can make a 'slave candle.' Get a metal tab, usually found at craft shops under candle making. Get wick and affix. Then wind the wick around a pencil that is at the mouth of the jar.
Put your peels of wax, straight off the body into her/his jar until it is two-thirds full. Then take clear wax that is hot and pour, it will then infuse the wax taken off the slave. So, when you burn that candle, it has meaning. Its great for gifts as well. One can set it around for atmosphere as well.

Respectfully submitted for consideration,
Lady Hugs

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RE: Wax Play - 10/2/2006 7:14:33 AM

MasterFireMaam

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Rubbing on a layer of oil before waxing helps. It doesn't have to be slathered on, simply make the skin slightly oily. Also, if you coat the body well, you can scrape off the large pieces easily as part of the scene. All this is assuming you're using a low-temp wax like parafin. Oil can conduct heat, so if you're using regular candles, be careful.

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RE: Wax Play - 10/2/2006 8:28:52 AM

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Pay attention to that baby powder tip. Mmmmmmm.

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RE: Wax Play - 10/2/2006 8:36:51 AM

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for any guys out there, a shaved chest may be an idea, otherwise, its a real bitch to clear the wax off

< Message edited by babyboyk -- 10/2/2006 8:37:38 AM >

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RE: Wax Play - 10/2/2006 11:28:09 AM

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ORIGINAL: nightrosemom

Ok, any ideas on the clean up of the body?

I knife works really well if you're into knife play *S*

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