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ORIGINAL: Chaingang

That's well said, Caitlyn.

I believe that the age of consent should be set lower than 18, possibly down to either 15 or maybe even as low as 13. I am considering physical maturity more so than I am considering emotional maturity attempting to arrive at an age below which no one could reasonably dispute a person is too young to consent to adult sexual activities. [Just as an aside here, consider that Juliet from Shakespeare's famous "Romeo and Juliet" is actually still merely 13 when her parents consider marrying her off to County Paris. Not really that shocking, okay?] Once this question is more firmly settled and more reasonable, I would have no problem supporting legislation making sexual conduct with a minor punishable by life-long sentences.

But right now, as others have pointed out, a 16 year old can be prosecuted in some places for having sex with another 16 year old. I think when I was a young man I was 18 and my girlfriend was 17 (scandalous, I know). In my book, those are not criminal activities because everyone involved is actually capable of responsible sexual behavior. Those kinds of vagaries need to be removed from the laws on the subject. It's too stupid.

If we waited for actual emotional maturity to set in, some people might never arrive. It's too ambiguous an idea.

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ORIGINAL: swtnsparkling

One more time this is not about 16 yr olds.

These men  set up meetings with the INTENT! of having sex with a 12, 13 yr old.  if this prevents even one of those men from actually harming a child that is enough for me- why should any kid have to be abused First?

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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent
1) Is sex with a 13 years old deserving of a long jail sentence. Yes.

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ORIGINAL: Chaingang

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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent
1) Is sex with a 13 years old deserving of a long jail sentence. Yes.

I think any such laws have to distinguish the age of the other party also, or perhaps an age gap. I lost my virginity at the age of 13, the person that helped me mislay it was also 13. Did she legally rape me, or I her? I think it matters, and I don't think it was a criminal act on anyone's part. And it wasn't just once, these *ACTS* went on for the next 2.5 years. What's the penalty for that? Whatever it is, I don't want to pay it.

FWIW, if I were to show you pictures of either myself or the girl in question we both look like we are in our 20s probably - both of us, at the age of 13.

I have had the good fortune in my life to look too old for my age when I was still quite young; and then also to look too young for the age I am now. So yes, I have looked like I was 20-35 for the last 30+ years...

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ORIGINAL: FelinePersuasion

there's no crime in 2 people the same age fucking it's when their 18 and she's 13

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ORIGINAL: Chaingang

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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent
1) Is sex with a 13 years old deserving of a long jail sentence. Yes.

I think any such laws have to distinguish the age of the other party also, or perhaps an age gap. I lost my virginity at the age of 13, the person that helped me mislay it was also 13. Did she legally rape me, or I her? I think it matters, and I don't think it was a criminal act on anyone's part. And it wasn't just once, these *ACTS* went on for the next 2.5 years. What's the penalty for that? Whatever it is, I don't want to pay it.

FWIW, if I were to show you pictures of either myself or the girl in question we both look like we are in our 20s probably - both of us, at the age of 13.

Agreed. There is a distinction. Although I didn't type it I had underage girl and older man in mind. The aim of an age limit is to protect children. If both boy and girl are under the age limit then you can't single out one and not the other as being either not deserving of protection or having the maturity to be predatory.

I have had the good fortune in my life to look too old for my age when I was still quite young; and then also to look too young for the age I am now. So yes, I have looked like I was 20-35 for the last 30+ years...

Long may it contine, CG. With luck you'll still look the same at 80 and you'll be hooked up with caitlyn surrounded by your special chandeliers.

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ORIGINAL: gooddogbenji

Not sure how the law works, but with pedophilia at its current popularity (and rightfully so) I doubt you will find many people who will argue your point to defend the guys.

Now, my question is, this 19 year old pretends to be 15, but to get on the adult site, she has to claim to be 18.  Now, I would assume that this 19 year old, much like in pornos, is actually 27.  So what age applies?

Yours,


benji