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how to prepare yourself for punishment ? - 10/3/2006 6:15:07 AM   
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how do you prepare yourself  for punishment ,  i think  your dom/domme would not like if you cry  loudly during punishment , how do you control your imotions and accept all kinds of punishments   gladly . ?
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RE: how to prepare yourself for punishment ? - 10/3/2006 6:31:18 AM   
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how do you prepare yourself  for punishment ,  i think  your dom/domme would not like if you cry  loudly during punishment , how do you control your imotions and accept all kinds of punishments   gladly . ?

Master does not 'punish' this slave. He does however discipline his property however he see's fit. When this slave has done something that deserves such action, she takes it for she knows that it is in her best interest to correct her behavior.

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RE: how to prepare yourself for punishment ? - 10/3/2006 7:20:27 AM   
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I don't think it matters if you cry some, or let out a scream or two.  I think what matters more, is that you realize what you did wrong and why you are being disciplined in the first place. 
 
I know of two things I am going to be punished for this coming weekend.  I didn't mean to, but I did mess up.  I know that I deserve what happens, so I will just set in my mind, that I am paying the price for it, and try my hardest to never have to cause Sir to discipline me again.
 
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RE: how to prepare yourself for punishment ? - 10/3/2006 7:38:13 AM   
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for me any way im normally so upset that iv done something to warrant a punishment that in itself prepares me and sercondly iv very rearly been in such a situation so im not sure how exactly to answer the question

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RE: how to prepare yourself for punishment ? - 10/3/2006 7:43:02 AM   
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Do you mean punishment or discipline?. Punishement is something Master does to me as enjoyment. Discipline is when I have done something wrong. If its discipline, I usually know when I have done something wrong and the the disappointment is enough to make me prepared for whatever is to come. If its punishments you are talking about, I am a very responsive person and makes lots of different noises unless gagged. I am not the type to just lay there.

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RE: how to prepare yourself for punishment ? - 10/3/2006 9:11:25 AM   
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I am not punished, I am disciplined. I am never physically punished, and if I cried it would not be to manipulate my way out of it but because I disappointed him.

Basically I accepted his right to discipline me when I agreed to it

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RE: how to prepare yourself for punishment ? - 10/3/2006 9:51:51 AM   
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quote:

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how do you prepare yourself  for punishment ,  i think  your dom/domme would not like if you cry  loudly during punishment , how do you control your imotions and accept all kinds of punishments   gladly . ?


re physical punishment... just do it. i tend to bite my lip or if i've got a crop or cat handle in my mouth i bite down on that. after a while i start zoning out. if told to give thanks i whisper if that's all i can manage. i'm far more likely to be reprimanded for failing that than crying out.

when it comes to other forms of punishment, again my advice is to not hesitate, not protest, not think about it, just do it. easier said than done but yeah.

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RE: how to prepare yourself for punishment ? - 10/3/2006 10:37:54 AM   
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oh wait, now I've missed something... you aren't supossed to cry out??  Dang it...

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RE: how to prepare yourself for punishment ? - 10/3/2006 10:49:40 AM   
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How do you know he doesn't want you to cry out? Have you asked him? Because if he's waiting until you're sobbing from the pain and you withhold this you could be hurt worse than he intended. Don't make assumptions for him.

Physical punishment is very rarely used here and only when I'm stuck in guilt. We talk things out and always there has been miscommunication, misunderstanding of what each other meant. So when I have been stuck in guilt, he has used physical punishment in order to help me cry it out and move on. If I didn't start to cry, then it wouldn't have had its intended result.

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RE: how to prepare yourself for punishment ? - 10/3/2006 10:50:01 AM   
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Some would argue that not crying out when you really want to is a sign of defiance..
"up yours i'll take it like a man" (to use a cliche)

In answer to your other thread, it pretty much depends on personal preference....

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RE: how to prepare yourself for punishment ? - 10/3/2006 11:13:33 AM   
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My advice is to be the best girl you can be through every second of every day and try to avoid the wrath of a displeased Master.  It has been my experience that there is no way to prepare for punishment.
 
When the time comes-take a deep breath and pray it goes FASTTTTTTT.....but always be thankful that you have him there to enforce his word.
 
Hugs to you girl !

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RE: how to prepare yourself for punishment ? - 10/3/2006 11:58:55 AM   
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quote:

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how do you prepare yourself  for punishment ,  i think  your dom/domme would not like if you cry  loudly during punishment , how do you control your imotions and accept all kinds of punishments   gladly . ?


Maybe hearing you "cry loudly" is one of the things he enjoys most about punishing you. I mean I don't know the guy so I don't want to assume too much. Maybe you shouldn't either.

I think a great way to prepare for anything in a relationship is to take time getting to know a person and to remain open to all the possibilities. Leave room for your partner to be who he is, with his own preferences and peculiarities rather than deciding in advance what he should or will want and not want. I'm not accusing you of doing the opposite. I'm just saying it is something to watch out for.

I would also caution against setting goals for yourself which in the first place he might find inappropriate and in the second place might be frustratingly unreachable for you. To accept all punishments "gladly"? It really isn't ridiculous to say this. I presume you have a realistically not over-simplified notion of gladness in mind here and yes, in a certain sense this might be an ideal for you to hold. But in practice, some of the time "gladly" just might not be an option. I hope you will explore that moment too rather than just imagine that you have failed in some way if you don't achieve gladness.

Similarly with the issue of controlling your emotions during punishment. This might be the very best way for you to look at things. On the other hand you two might use punishment sessions as an occasion for you to let go of control of your emotions (maybe relying on physical bonds as the "container" for the experience. I'm not telling you where to go with these things but just suggesting openess to possibilities.

If the punishment in question is to be a straightforward, painful physical punishment I would offer what follows.

Rather than, say, "clench up" physically or psychologically or emotionally to try to just get through this you might try to approach the experience in a way that could be described with words like openness and surrender. Again, no need to make this a pass/fail exam. Just maybe try out this way of approaching things to see what it might offer you.

This moment between you two will be at least as real and potentially meaningful and valuable as any other. Be present for it in the richest way you can. Feel it. Feel the way it starts and the way it proceeds. Feel the depth of it and the way it might seem as though it won't end. Feel yourself approach what seems to be the limit of your endurance, if this happens, and feel yourself transcend that imagined limitation if that should happen as well. And be sure to notice how good it feels when it stops!

Are you able to feel genuine gratitude before, during, and after? I'm not saying that you need to, or that you should even want to. Is that something you or he want you to aspire to?

If the punishment is to be not physically painful but some sort of psychological or emotional punishment, the advice above can still be applied, though it might apply a little differently.

Some people don't have room in their relationships for psychological or emotional punishments, and that's fine. For some--even some who have posted to this thread, emotional punishment is the centerpiece or even the be-all and end-all of this part of their relationship even though they may not describe it using those words. I'm speaking of those who say something like: "The way I feel when I've disappointed him is worse than any physical punishment could be and even more effective at helping to keep me on track," or some such words. Although of course emotional punishment can operate in a wide range of ways, not just this one.

Your letter seemed to focus on ways of preparing for a given instance of punishment, which is fine. You can of course consider a broader question of how to prepare to be in a relationship which will involve the punishment dynamic, especially if this will be new to you. In fact your having started this thread seems to be a case of this very kind of preparation and I think it speaks well of you.

There are many wonderful submissives here whose relationships involve punishment in some sense. As you can see from this thread some of them draw careful distinctions between punishment and discipline. If you read closely you will notice that each of them draws this distinction either as she was taught to or as it seems to work best for her (or him) and the definitions from one person don't necessarily line up witht eh difintions form someone else, which is fine (although a few of them will go to war to defend their preferred definitions of the words; you can decide for yourself what you think of that.)

I recommend not worrying too much about the definitions. If you read comments which seem to ring true from a person whom you get a good feeling about, engage in discussion, even write to that person. You can learn a lot, share things of value from your own thoughts and experiences (questions can be just as valuable as answers,) and you might make some lovely friends.

Good luck!











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RE: how to prepare yourself for punishment ? - 10/3/2006 12:18:47 PM   
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I have been disciplined/punished a few times and have another time coming to me for various infractions that caused my Master to be unhappy with me.  My Master uses physical punishment as His method of correcting my unwanted behavior, by means of His belt.

The first time He ever did this, I bit down on my lip and tried to breathe through my nose to keep myself centered and get through it.  The second time He did it was much more intense and I grabbed a towel that was laying on the bed and ended up using it to bite down on to keep from crying out.  For my Master, crying out and getting all upset is not an option.  During the second time, I was desperate to try and keep myself quiet and take what was coming to me, although a few sobs escaped.  He didn't fault me for crying, but afterwards did tell me to get myself together so we could talk about what it meant and why it needed to be done.

I tend to get anxious when I know I have not pleased Him and when His belt comes off, my heart races.  The best thing to do is to try to get through it and not make the same mistake again.

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RE: how to prepare yourself for punishment ? - 10/3/2006 12:32:52 PM   
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how do you prepare yourself  for punishment ,  i think  your dom/domme would not like if you cry  loudly during punishment , how do you control your imotions and accept all kinds of punishments   gladly . ?


Greetings stillexploring,

Himself and I do have a punishment dynamic, but punishment is something which I see as an opportunity for improvement in a specific area. It would be a rare thing, indeed, for punishment to be physical in nature as Himself does tend to go along with the mindset that the punishment should fit the 'crime'. Most often it takes the form of time for me to reflect because most of my errors come in the form of being too hasty with something and not stopping and thinking about an action I've taken or properly considering the consequences of that action.

It's not something I suffer through or cry over, but rather am grateful that he will help me process and understand the error I've made, so in this, I do take such punishments gladly.  This is very different from the way I 'used' to feel about being punished when I could beat myself up and feel utterly miserable for having disappointed him and there was no worse punishment than that in my book.

It did, finally, dawn on me one day that such an attitude was very selfish on my part and not at all reflective of the type of person I strive to be much less the slave which I am capable of being. Beating up myself because I 'felt' I had disappointed him was me putting my own assumptions onto 'his' feelings. What helped me to come to that realization was simple communication actually.

When I did something wrong, never was it with intent.. I just want to make that clear, rather than yell at me (which I was used to since childhood) or hit me (something else I was used to) he would.. talk to me and he would ask me questions .. things like.. "what brought you to the place that caused you to do X or Y" .. "how do you feel about that now that you've done it".. things like that .. then he would give me time to reflect on it .. and then.. it was done. It was over and it's not even a matter of forgiveness .. either from him or to myself, but a matter of growth. The person who made that mistake was someone from yesterday .. and the person I am today doesn't make that mistake.

How do I prepare for punishment? I prepare every moment of every day.. by striving to do my best so that punishment is not required. I don't always succeed, but I do OK with it. These days, pain is pure pleasure .. and the tears that may stream down my face from that are welcome to me.

I wish you well,

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RE: how to prepare yourself for punishment ? - 10/3/2006 7:58:50 PM   
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So far have not had physical punishment which is great because for me to hear Him say He is disappointed is much more powerful and punitive than anything physical He has ever done.  Also i am relieved that i don't have to wonder if He is being very physical it is because i have done something wrong.  Guess in the long run i have either been good or He has been tolerant because punishment/discipline has not been an issue for us.  I also know He does not need a reason to choose to spank me if He so wishes.  He only needs to wish it and it is His choice to do.


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RE: how to prepare yourself for punishment ? - 10/4/2006 5:00:07 AM   
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From this Domme ... I 'punish' in play to heighten the moment or scene.  When a slave has given me cause to correct her attitude/actions/etc ... I discipline.  I have used the paddle, cage and public humiliation (depending on the infraction).  At the end of the discipline, I give permission to the slave to speak freely and then ask her what she did wrong and how she is going to correct the situation so I never have to use discipline again.

In everything, there is caring and love.  I discipline to correct a behavior that could either threaten her, harm her or someone else, or is a behavior that is contrary to the Household rules.  In truth, I can count on my two hands the number of time after training, I have disciplined a slave in the last 6 years.



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RE: how to prepare yourself for punishment ? - 10/4/2006 6:41:26 AM   
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quote:

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how do you prepare yourself  for punishment ,  i think  your dom/domme would not like if you cry  loudly during punishment , how do you control your imotions and accept all kinds of punishments   gladly . ?


Some Dom/Dommes would love it if you cried. 
 
Punish me with a good beating and I may be a bad girl.  I love the pain.  To prepare for punishment focus your energies on the fact that you displeased and be grateful he/she is not sending you out the door instead of taking the time to correct you.

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RE: how to prepare yourself for punishment ? - 10/4/2006 8:38:29 AM   
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I think *gladly* would be stretching it a bit here....lol

Preparedness....a bit of quaking then a deal of blocking out, then more quaking......right up until it actually begins. I accept it's going to happen on one level but until it has started I'm not able to focus on it, really.

I don't control my emotions, I'm not asked to. I do try to control how I behave though......if I flinch or skip about, I move back to a still position between strokes as best I can.

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RE: how to prepare yourself for punishment ? - 10/5/2006 11:18:10 AM   
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tell myself that its not needed, i dont want it, he's wrong and nuts and do my best to escape it.

when in reality its the complete opposite of everything

and when its over

i generally become very thankful and appreciative and am happy as the world is sitting right again.  (thank god i dont get my way)

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RE: how to prepare yourself for punishment ? - 10/5/2006 11:26:23 AM   
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I agree gladly would be stretching it a bit i submit because if i am assigned a displine or punishment you can be darn sure i earned it.  For a displine i have to count the strokes so Master can tell by my voice if i am ok.  For a punishment i have to count and thank him for the same reason because punishments are harsher, but i have been a good girl and have only recieved one punishment in the 9 months we have been together.  I gladly acept the after care though.

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