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RE: Crying or Not Crying/ When a girl trys to hard - 10/25/2006 7:46:58 AM   
darksdesire


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When i cry, it's a release, and my Master usually treats it as such.  It actually took me a long time to understand it was ok with Him if i were to cry during punishment, as i thought i should take it silently and stoicly.  Now that i feel safe enough to cry during punishment, i find it is more purging...it helps me to release my remorse and guilt and i end up feeling better.  He doesn't really encourage it or discourage it, but rather accepts it as something necessary for me.      

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RE: Crying or Not Crying/ When a girl trys to hard - 10/25/2006 8:29:08 AM   
Aileen68


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I find the thought of being made to cry arousing if it is the result of humiliation and not punishment.
It makes one very vulnerable and open.
Unfortunately, no one has been able to do that to me yet.

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RE: Crying or Not Crying/ When a girl trys to hard - 10/25/2006 8:49:35 PM   
DevilsVendetta


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Crying would cause some Masters to have trouble continuing through the punishment, personally I think that the submissive should not hide an emotion either way, if she feels to need to cry, then she may do so.


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RE: Crying or Not Crying/ When a girl trys to hard - 10/27/2006 6:13:17 PM   
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Seeing a woman cry (any woman) makes me feel compassionate, thats not to say Im a pushover but when a girl cries one wants to help and protect them!  When my sub cries I feel such warmth and love for her that if its my actions that have caused the tears my first instinct is to stop; however I trust her absolutely to use her safeword and sometimes an accumulation of pain/emotions etc cause those tears.  As for myself, I can only remember crying twice as an adult and one of them was at a cup final!!!!

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RE: Crying or Not Crying/ When a girl trys to hard - 10/31/2006 7:11:54 PM   
CerebralDomHfx


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I find tears to be a bonding experience, if they are tears of emotion, not just pain. Tears from pain do not concern me at all, and serve as good feedback for what I am doing, assuming the tears are being caused by me. If they are caused by some sort of accident (a burn from the stove) I would more than likely console her.

I don't like a sub to hold anything back from me, especially emotional items.  Tears from emotional reasons would normally serve to let me know some progress is being made, or that we're approaching something very important. In that case, it would be explored, not ignored.

I wish to possess her heart, mind, and soul. The body is just a playtoy.

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RE: Crying or Not Crying/ When a girl trys to hard - 10/31/2006 7:40:33 PM   
onlythewindknows


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quote:

ORIGINAL: MissBabydoll

Not to mention the appalling fact that more Americans now believe that "the husband should be the head of the household and his wife should obey his decisions" than they did twenty years ago!



hey with all due respect - i don't feel this to be valid for everyone but it is valid for me. sorry, i can't ignore my kinks in favor of ideology (i did this for tooooo long.)  i grew up in the feminist 70s and feel this whole approach of saying "here is how things are wrong in society so i will structure myself this other way" is really misguided: you have to be true to your core self foremost. as it happens i am an old-fashioned 50s housewife who (fortunately for living in a time of choices!) lives in a post-feminist world.  i don't bash the feminist movement from happening - we wouldn't be having this discussion if it didn't - but i feel that a lot got LOST for women like me in a world where women have to act tough and aggressive all the time.

but back to the topic: i would be really unhappy with a Dominant who hated for me to cry. it seems almost abusive.

< Message edited by onlythewindknows -- 10/31/2006 7:42:07 PM >

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RE: Crying or Not Crying/ When a girl trys to hard - 10/31/2006 7:46:13 PM   
Kalira


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I cry simply because well...pain fucking hurts...there is no way around that

Of course, the more I cry, beg and plead for it to stop, the more he gives me.
/grins
I do so love the intensity that comes over his face at times like that

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RE: Crying or Not Crying/ When a girl trys to hard - 11/1/2006 3:20:25 AM   
agirl


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quote:

ORIGINAL: theRose4U

quote:

ORIGINAL: agirl

My Master has no compassion at all when it comes to things like that.He's quite ruthless. If he's decided that something is going to happen nothing, but nothing, moves him........least of all my tears. I accept the penalty because I accept the responsibility for whatever it is I've done but it's the actual pain that makes me cry.

agirl 



If your master has made it clear the way this is in your world and you submit I don't understand the point of your question. As Em has said on more than one occasion, if you start a sentence with "has anyone ever" the likelyhood is that someone has.


It wasn't my question.

If something wasn't *quite right* in my relationship, or I was bothered by anything about it, the very LAST thing I'd do is post about it in a forum full of total strangers. I haven't any inclination to measure, or compare my relationship to other people's.

agirl



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RE: Crying or Not Crying/ When a girl trys to hard - 11/1/2006 1:16:39 PM   
desoutter


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My experience is that some woman cry and some do not...
Having met all safety precautions and such - If my sub crys... she crys.

I always try to find cues for my sub as to how things are progressing for her...
examples:
one sub may shake her head when she is uncomfortable
another may sigh a certain way when excited...
another may cry when frustrated...

These cues are sometimes very subtle, from a look to an outright scream.... and I feel it is important to get to know... every sub is different and has different needs, also different emotions they would like to explore... so... short story long....

If sub crys - she crys - it doesnt really effect me as long as this is what she is exploring... or this is what is expected.

desoutter


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