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"The Constitution is just a piece of paper" - 10/4/2006 11:51:49 AM

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"The Constitution is just a piece of paper" - G.W. Bush
Keith Olbermann and Jonathan Turley
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wmc60JmaLbE

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RE: "The Constitution is just a piece of paper" - 10/4/2006 1:21:49 PM

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My dial up took too long to load all the video but my understanding, as a Brit ,of the CIA is that it has long been involved in unconstitutional activity.

I remember reading about, I think J Anderton's CIA, that locked someone up for 3/4 years just to get some info. I cant recall the details.
So..whats new ? Give G Bush a break I say. PC Liberalism is a disaster...isn't it ?

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RE: "The Constitution is just a piece of paper" - 10/4/2006 1:46:53 PM

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I remember reading about, I think J Anderton's CIA, that locked someone up for 3/4 years just to get some info. I cant recall the details.
So..whats new ? Give G Bush a break I say. PC Liberalism is a disaster...isn't it ?

I don't suppose our constitution is any more relevant than the royal family (other than it provides for certain rights to every citizen in the country).

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US Constitution, Article II, Section 1 Before he enter on the execution of his office, he shall take the following oath or affirmation: "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States."

What's another commitment to the entire country? No reason this one should be any more important than any others he's made. Thankfully we have term limits. Unfortunately his successors are going to have to clean up his mess, as will the country be paying for it for generations.

At least he hasn't gone "nucular."

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RE: "The Constitution is just a piece of paper" - 10/4/2006 1:50:14 PM

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ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave

My dial up took too long to load all the video but my understanding, as a Brit ,of the CIA is that it has long been involved in unconstitutional activity.

I remember reading about, I think J Anderton's CIA, that locked someone up for 3/4 years just to get some info. I cant recall the details.
So..whats new ? Give G Bush a break I say. PC Liberalism is a disaster...isn't it ?

Seeks, PC Liberalism and Big Business Republicanism are BOTH a disaster.
Hard to determine which is worse the Right-Wing Globalist at any price people on the right or the Politically Correct Goosesteppers on the left.
One thing for certain neither party has the interests of The American People and Taxpayers at heart.

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RE: "The Constitution is just a piece of paper" - 10/4/2006 1:54:31 PM

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I remember reading about, I think J Anderton's CIA, that locked someone up for 3/4 years just to get some info. I cant recall the details.
So..whats new ? Give G Bush a break I say. PC Liberalism is a disaster...isn't it ?

I don't suppose our constitution is any more relevant than the royal family (other than it provides for certain rights to every citizen in the country).

Well, MizSuz, I'm not well versed in the American constitution but if it provides certain rights then it is far more relevant than our monarchy who simply inhabit a mystical world where everything is free at our expense.

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US Constitution, Article II, Section 1 Before he enter on the execution of his office, he shall take the following oath or affirmation: "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States."

What's another commitment to the entire country? No reason this one should be any more important than any others he's made. Thankfully we have term limits. Unfortunately his successors are going to have to clean up his mess, as will the country be paying for it for generations.

At least he hasn't gone "nucular."

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RE: "The Constitution is just a piece of paper" - 10/4/2006 1:57:58 PM

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MizSuz said....
I don't suppose our constitution is any more relevant than the royal family (other than it provides for certain rights to every citizen in the country).

Just my dumb sense of humour MizS....A properly structured constitution should be inviolate.
Unless proper procedures are followed to amend it.

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RE: "The Constitution is just a piece of paper" - 10/4/2006 3:17:47 PM

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Just my dumb sense of humour MizS....A properly structured constitution should be inviolate.
Unless proper procedures are followed to amend it.

I figured you were joking, the situation is such that if you don't laugh you'll have to cry.

We've got lots of amendments, too. The current administration has repeatedly circumvented the checks and balances our government has designed into it for the purpose of advancing it's own agenda. "The Constitution is just a piece of paper" to me is simply a verbal overflow of the sewage in the man's head, heart and actions.

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RE: "The Constitution is just a piece of paper" - 10/4/2006 4:15:12 PM

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For those not watching it the video discusses at length the habit Bush has of promoting and placing people within his administration that have formerly been convicted of crimes. The suggestion is that he wants people that disregard the rule of law because he has no intention of obeying the law himself.

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RE: "The Constitution is just a piece of paper" - 10/4/2006 4:23:28 PM

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Chain, and Clinton (A Democrat) did the same thing.
Who were those Goons he had going around to the women he raped telling them to keep their mouths shut?
Plenty of S*** on both sides that's why I'm an Independant!

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RE: "The Constitution is just a piece of paper" - 10/4/2006 4:26:34 PM

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Plenty of S*** on both sides that's why I'm an Independant!

I've been known to switch parties prior to a primary for the purpose of voting against the person I didn't want to see make it beyond the primaries. Pat Robertson comes to mind.

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RE: "The Constitution is just a piece of paper" - 10/4/2006 4:41:55 PM

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At least he hasn't gone "nucular."

I swear, I have to educate so many people...it's "nucyaler".

Please...if you're going to quote the Prez...get it right.

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RE: "The Constitution is just a piece of paper" - 10/4/2006 4:47:51 PM

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Just my dumb sense of humour MizS....A properly structured constitution should be inviolate. Unless proper procedures are followed to amend it.

I figured you were joking, the situation is such that if you don't laugh you'll have to cry.

We've got lots of amendments, too. The current administration has repeatedly circumvented the checks and balances our government has designed into it for the purpose of advancing it's own agenda. "The Constitution is just a piece of paper" to me is simply a verbal overflow of the sewage in the man's head, heart and actions.
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(Not that you argued for or agreed to but, www.youtube.com is hardly an opportunity {or an avenue} for balanced thought).

With that said, I find the current situation untenable.

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RE: "The Constitution is just a piece of paper" - 10/4/2006 4:58:03 PM

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For those not watching it the video discusses at length the habit Bush has of promoting and placing people within his administration that have formerly been convicted of crimes. The suggestion is that he wants people that disregard the rule of law because he has no intention of obeying the law himself.

I'm certainly no Bush fan by any stretch of the imagination, but I took it as similar to hiring a burglar, to help you develop a fool proof burglar alarm. If you want to stretch something, hire a pro. Not really a dumb move actually, I'm sort of impressed, not a lot, but impressed none the less.

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RE: "The Constitution is just a piece of paper" - 10/4/2006 5:31:00 PM

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For those not watching it the video discusses at length the habit Bush has of promoting and placing people within his administration that have formerly been convicted of crimes. The suggestion is that he wants people that disregard the rule of law because he has no intention of obeying the law himself.

I'm certainly no Bush fan by any stretch of the imagination, but I took it as similar to hiring a burglar, to help you develop a fool proof burglar alarm. If you want to stretch something, hire a pro. Not really a dumb move actually, I'm sort of impressed, not a lot, but impressed none the less.

Hello A/all,

I am starting to come to the conclusion that Bush and the rest of the Republicans were hired to teach thinking people everywhere how to do investigations into corrupt politicians.

What they did not count on was being in office when the people they taught started to use their newly acquired knowledge.

Gingrich, Delay, Foley, Hastert, The entire Abramhoff ilk, etc...

How many more will end up resigning to avoid indictment?

If Monkeyboy is smart, he will resign so Shotgun can pardon him for his war (and other) crimes. Otherwise, he will be investigated up the wazoo when Congress is no longer controlled by corrupt Republicans.

If we are lucky, they will let thinking people in the United States pick his boyfriend in the "Big House."

Just me, could be wrong, etc.

Sinergy

p.s. I wanted to edit this to ask a question, did we hire all these Republicans to
teach us how to be corrupt, fleece everybody, and destroy the infrastructure of a country? This is a lesson I never wanted to learn.

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