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a slave that is geting to be a very big masochist - 10/4/2006 12:30:01 PM

omahadom68

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like to say hi to all ..well i have ask something like this be for ..what do you do when you have a slave that is new to being a masochist as in ony 20 days and is wanting much more then you can think as in whips hands as much pain as you can do and any were on the boddy you like

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RE: a slave that is geting to be a very big masochist - 10/4/2006 12:48:47 PM

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Ask yourself, WWJD?

Then do the opposite.

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RE: a slave that is geting to be a very big masochist - 10/4/2006 2:51:54 PM

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like to say hi to all ..well i have ask something like this be for ..what do you do when you have a slave that is new to being a masochist as in ony 20 days and is wanting much more then you can think as in whips hands as much pain as you can do and any were on the boddy you like

That would depend on what you want to do and what you know how to do.

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RE: a slave that is geting to be a very big masochist - 10/5/2006 5:25:34 AM

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YMMV, this is my experience.

I call most of those types of bottoms "endurance bottoms". They like it hard and heavy and can deal with it that way. They can accept that type of pain and process it with no problem. Overstimulation allows for them to shut down the emotional end and not have to deal with it.

You can beat them with a baseball bat and they will take it like a champ... but you touch them with a feather and they break.

You have touched the body, the real joy for me is touching the soul. The sadist in me says to lighten up and get into more sensation play. It brings out a vunerability in even the most masochistic person. Again, that is my experience and not meant to be taken as the be all end all.

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RE: a slave that is geting to be a very big masochist - 10/5/2006 5:28:51 AM

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quote:

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YMMV, this is my experience.

I call most of those types of bottoms "endurance bottoms". They like it hard and heavy and can deal with it that way. They can accept that type of pain and process it with no problem. Overstimulation allows for them to shut down the emotional end and not have to deal with it.

You can beat them with a baseball bat and they will take it like a champ... but you touch them with a feather and they break.

Nicely said. I can definitly relate to that.

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RE: a slave that is geting to be a very big masochist - 10/5/2006 5:43:30 AM

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Do you like doing heavy SM as a top? If so, you thank your lucky stars and be nice, by which I mean beat the crap out of, your slave and bottom. As you are now aware, while bottoms often learn to endure more pain as they become more experienced, not all bottoms start in the same place. This is not a problem, unless, of course, your desired levels of SM intensity differ.

Does it bother you that the bottom likes pain--that is, do you enjoy reactions of suffering, not pleasure, in an SM scene? If so, you need to tell this bottom as much. He or she will likely learn that if he or she wants to encourage you to do more SM, he or she will express suffering more and pleasure less. If suffering is key, you might also try different types of pain. Most masochists like certain things more than others, and some dislike some sensations entirely. There are different sensations within impact play; for example, a cane and a flogger do different things, and there are variations within categories of toys as well. This means that a cane with a 1/4" diameter will feel different from a cane with a 1" diameter, and a cane made of rattan will feel different from one made of a synthetic material. You might try some new impact implements. If you have confined your SM exclusively to impact play, do some electricity stuff. An "electric flyswatter" is fairly inexpensive. You might try needles, too. There are a number of other non-impact things to do--paper cuts and abrasions come to mind--many masochists who find beating pleasurable don't like non-impact things. Stick a pipe cleaner up his or her nose and explore. Clamp the tops of the ears and tie them together above the head to create tension. Poke at the cuticles of finger and toe nails.

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RE: a slave that is geting to be a very big masochist - 10/5/2006 6:00:26 AM

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Stick a pipe cleaner up his or her nose and explore

heh.. if you have a willing and generous feline friend... use a whisker instead. Much safer and gets a reaction of tears, sneezing, irritation.. etc. No wires are going up my nose..lol.

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RE: a slave that is geting to be a very big masochist - 10/5/2006 6:03:00 AM

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Does it bother you that the bottom likes pain--that is, do you enjoy reactions of suffering, not pleasure, in an SM scene? If so, you need to tell this bottom as much. He or she will likely learn that if he or she wants to encourage you to do more SM, he or she will express suffering more and pleasure less.

lol.. sorry.. had to chuckle because it sounds like you are telling him to tell his slave to fake it. I don't think you meant that, but it was too funny to pass up.

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RE: a slave that is geting to be a very big masochist - 10/5/2006 7:46:24 AM

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Ask yourself, WWJD?

Then do the opposite.

ahahaha

or... ask 'what would Jay do?' (Jay & Silent Bob) and do that.

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RE: a slave that is geting to be a very big masochist - 10/5/2006 7:54:55 AM

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well i like to say it was good to here from some of the ones on here ............well we do use a bullwhip and enjoy,s that a lot as well as hiting her arms .there is not much of any thing i cant do to her that she dont like and is wanting more it was ony in sex but now it is in or out of bed its like when i see her its more like dont kiss me hit me any time any were she has more marks on her boddy not were any one can see and she is past being a pain sult lol i enjoy doing it to her as much as she likes geting it

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RE: a slave that is geting to be a very big masochist - 10/12/2006 7:14:14 PM

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I would work on the emotional pain a bit too ... don't hit her ... ignore her. Every other day or every three days ... that would be kind of like touching her with a feather when she was expecting a paddle. Sides, it's not what she wants ... she needs to be very clear that it's what YOU want that matters, there in can lie the true pain. YOU beck and call, with ... feather in hand *s*.

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RE: a slave that is geting to be a very big masochist - 10/12/2006 7:36:17 PM

Elegrea

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ORIGINAL: WildnWicked

I call most of those types of bottoms "endurance bottoms". They like it hard and heavy and can deal with it that way. They can accept that type of pain and process it with no problem. Overstimulation allows for them to shut down the emotional end and not have to deal with it.

You can beat them with a baseball bat and they will take it like a champ... but you touch them with a feather and they break.

It's true.
I broke one of these with my voice, a fan of chicken feathers, and a glass of ice water.

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RE: a slave that is geting to be a very big masochist - 10/13/2006 6:45:17 PM

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LOL - I'm not a single bit surprised Elegra,

You just broke me with only a photo of yourself. <;-)

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RE: a slave that is geting to be a very big masochist - 10/13/2006 6:48:29 PM

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