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RE: "Ten Reasons You Will Not Recognize America in... - 10/5/2006 7:50:25 PM   
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RE: "Ten Reasons You Will Not Recognize America in... - 10/5/2006 7:56:09 PM   
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but what happens when you can't use cash to pick up a gallon of milk?


Get pissed off with a bunch of other people and take the milk.


And get shot. Stealing isn't an answer, julia lol. There's always water to drink....



      Nah, they won't shoot her Level, just ship her off to one of the camps.  Since Popeye and I will likely have been drafted as guards, we'll make sure she is OK.

     (Self-censored so I don't have her Daddy driving up here to kick my ass  )

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RE: "Ten Reasons You Will Not Recognize America in... - 10/5/2006 7:59:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		Oh something tells me that we would be going to the camps together... that much stomping on our freedoms... some of us take the word liberty  fairly seriously... others of us think that fighting for liberty means sending someone else's kids to fight in another country that does not want us there to "free them". You see, one involves personal risk, the other is just lipservice.

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RE: "Ten Reasons You Will Not Recognize America in... - 10/5/2006 7:59:48 PM   
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but what happens when you can't use cash to pick up a gallon of milk?


Get pissed off with a bunch of other people and take the milk.


And get shot. Stealing isn't an answer, julia lol. There's always water to drink....



     Nah, they won't shoot her Level, just ship her off to one of the camps.  Since Popeye and I will likely have been drafted as guards, we'll make sure she is OK.

    (Self-censored so I don't have her Daddy driving up here to kick my ass  )


LOL Rich, I hope she's okay, she's a good egg .
 
I have a feeling Sinergy would go up there to try and rescue her.... maybe we could come up with a Dirty Dozen type event heh heh.

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RE: "Ten Reasons You Will Not Recognize America in... - 10/5/2006 8:18:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

Oh something tells me that we would be going to the camps together... that much stomping on our freedoms... some of us take the word liberty  fairly seriously... others of us think that fighting for liberty means sending someone else's kids to fight in another country that does not want us there to "free them". You see, one involves personal risk, the other is just lipservice.



     Easy now.  You know my position on Free Expression as well as I know yours on a potential draft.  I'm in an excellent mood this evening and just having a bit of fun.  If this thread winds up being predictive, they'll ship me off to "The Island" well before you get "detained."

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RE: "Ten Reasons You Will Not Recognize America in... - 10/5/2006 8:19:48 PM   
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I used to tell gun nuts, err aficionados, that I suspected their .44 magnum would not be overly effective against A-10s or Abrams tanks when they tried to rise up.


Iraq is the perfect example of how low tech can win over high tech, or even how many little guns can overtake bigger guns.

Do I have to mention what 19 guys with box cutters are supposedly able to do?

Never give up your guns. It's fundamental. Truly.

Freemen bear arms.


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RE: "Ten Reasons You Will Not Recognize America in... - 10/5/2006 8:21:48 PM   
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    Easy now.  You know my position on Free Expression as well as I know yours on a potential draft.  I'm in an excellent mood this evening and just having a bit of fun.  If this thread winds up being predictive, they'll ship me off to "The Island" well before you get "detained."



Shouldnt you be posting as WyrdRich136 then, if they plan on shipping you off to the Island?

An interesting premise in that movie (The Island), and I enjoy both of the lead actors (Ewan and Scarlett), but the script was kinda sucky.

Just me, could be wrong, etc.

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RE: "Ten Reasons You Will Not Recognize America in... - 10/5/2006 8:23:37 PM   
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Never give up your guns. It's fundamental. Truly.



It is about as fundamental as standing up at a rally and turning one's back on a President one does not respect, in order to express one's feelings about him.

But the Simian In Chief doesnt respect that fundamental right either.

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RE: "Ten Reasons You Will Not Recognize America in... - 10/5/2006 8:26:41 PM   
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RE: "Ten Reasons You Will Not Recognize America in... - 10/5/2006 9:57:57 PM   
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They need a place to keep all the people that have been declared enemy combatants after their children turn them in under the TIPS/TIPS program

Kellogg Brown and Root Concentration Camps
Yes, you read that correctly. Concentration camps…on American soil. “Preposterous!” you say? Regrettably, quite a reality. KBR, a subsidiary of Cheney’s old stomping grounds, Haliburton, is at this moment building facilities to house and detain large numbers of people. Dow Jones Market Watch notes that the contract “which is effective immediately, provides for establishing temporary detention and processing capabilities to expand existing ICE Detention and Removal Operations Program facilities in the event of an emergency influx of immigrants into the U.S., or to support the rapid development of new programs….”


Its not as if this is the first time something like this has happened in American History. During WWII, we had our own concentration camps for Japanese Americans, Italian Americans and German Americans. We weren't gassing them or anything, but we were unjustly imprisoning them just as we are to Iraqi citizens in the middle east. We don't teach our kids about this because, hey, we're the good guys, remember?


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RE: "Ten Reasons You Will Not Recognize America in... - 10/6/2006 1:23:02 AM   
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Julia, why would they even care about detaining me?
As a U.S. Citizen if they wanted to detain me there's enough jails.
Those places they're building will hold hundreds of thousands of illegals.
As far as I'm concerned they should start that tommorrow morning.

There's hundreds of thousands of guys like me, Veterans that they could Deputise to help out with illegal alien round-ups and that has in fact been mentioned by many people in Veterans orgs.

As time goes by.....a lot of us here on this site could be considered illegal. Theocracy has no place for those who might put a kink in the straight and narrow. It was not too long ago that inter racial marriage and or sex was a crime or at least a reason for lynching.
They will build those prisons and change the laws, all the while appealing to a certain voter base. Once it's all done.....what do they need voters for?
What exactly makes you think that they will have any eventual use for you in particular? The loss of freedom is happening to all. The loss of rights. They play on the fear, racism etc etc...to get round to getting everyone under control, and living under fear.
At some point, they will have to confiscate all the guns. Not because they fear us shooting each other. Because the government will fear it's own people. When they come to get them, you will no longer have any legal rights to try and stop them. You will have sold off those rights to target those you hated or feared. Never noticing that you were in the same target range.
There will be no civil or legal rights between you and prison, or a shootout.
They are taking all your rights and freedoms while you cheer them on. Blindsided by a few hotpoints. They will eventually take your guns. From your cold dead hands as they even like to say.

At the very best. They will make your life no better than an illegal aliens. No more rights. No better a wage. The rich WHITE creeps that run things, don't see you as any different than a wetback, except that you still have some pesky rights under the law.


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RE: "Ten Reasons You Will Not Recognize America in... - 10/6/2006 4:46:14 AM   
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They need a place to keep all the people that have been declared enemy combatants after their children turn them in under the TIPS/TIPS program

Kellogg Brown and Root Concentration Camps
Yes, you read that correctly. Concentration camps…on American soil. “Preposterous!” you say? Regrettably, quite a reality. KBR, a subsidiary of Cheney’s old stomping grounds, Haliburton, is at this moment building facilities to house and detain large numbers of people. Dow Jones Market Watch notes that the contract “which is effective immediately, provides for establishing temporary detention and processing capabilities to expand existing ICE Detention and Removal Operations Program facilities in the event of an emergency influx of immigrants into the U.S., or to support the rapid development of new programs….”



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RE: "Ten Reasons You Will Not Recognize America in... - 10/6/2006 4:50:21 AM   
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RE: "Ten Reasons You Will Not Recognize America in... - 10/6/2006 5:43:06 AM   
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Can you say paranoia?  Yes we are losing our rights bit by bit.  Quit voting the idiots into office and go libertarian.  Better yet vote out everyone who is currently in office every time you get a chance.  Too many are way too comfy up there and we need a major shake up.


As I've always said : If every single eligble voter picked a green party candidate or libertarian instead of the usual republican or democrat, the chance of things being any worse than they are now is almost next to nothing. I don't see how /why it isn't worth the chance.

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Do some reading about cashless society, about how some people already have a prototype of these chips, and about how they are being recommended for the harbor where my Dom works as a way of controlling who has access to the harbor.


Yes...Just imagine wanting to have yard sale where everyone has a debit card terminal in order to transfer funds. Then after the yard sale is over, a certain portion of the proceeds in profit is deducted out as taxes so the masters can go eat steak and lobster and smoke twenty-five dollar cigars.



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RE: "Ten Reasons You Will Not Recognize America in... - 10/12/2006 2:19:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		Concentration camps... on American soil?

Yeah, they were called internment camps where they housed Germans and Japanese (the latter faring far worse)... looks like we would be More recognizable with the past if this one were to happen.


Anti Arab sentiment?  

Fascinating... Not that the United States and the world as a whole have had racist pasts, presents (and you guessed it... futures since it, and more generally, hatred are all human nature).


Foreign Troops on American soil?

Yes, they are called Al-Queada, for starters. Then you have the illegals who (with our help and complacency) are here to boost the standard of living of their families and countrys at our and our nations' expense. Such measures have included drivers licenses, free education and medical care, as well as the right to vote? Isn't that an illegal phenomina that is far more significant and face changing to the nation?

I think it is interesting what this author chooses to add and omit on this list. While some of it is indisputably significant I see most is a bullshit agenda. Big surprise.

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RE: "Ten Reasons You Will Not Recognize America in... - 10/12/2006 8:13:09 PM   
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RE: "Ten Reasons You Will Not Recognize America in... - 10/12/2006 8:24:29 PM   
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Sinergy, that assumes that people in the armed forces would fire on their own. They won't. (USN-USCG Ret.)
I just don't think that The People have enough say about what goes on in our govt.
The people in Washington don't listen to us but they don't seem to have any trouble listening to the wishes of big business.


Hello popeye1250,

Im sure the parents of the students who were gunned down by the national guard at Kent State will be comforted by your words about who the people in the armed forces will or will not shoot.

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RE: "Ten Reasons You Will Not Recognize America in... - 10/13/2006 12:47:09 PM   
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   Nothing happens in a vacuum.  Expect these things to follow significant events (or events the media treats as significant) and with wide public support.

    The question is, will those who see the dangers in such inevitable events be able to preserve individual liberty in how they are implemented (speaking of the cash-free society, not the "internment" camps), or will those people have completely marginalized themselves before the real problems arise?


I agree with the fact that nothing happens in a vacuum tis why I've posted this  link before Just listen to the opening few minutes & you'll see...
911: The Greatest Lie Evers Sold - By Anthony Hilder - Google Video

OR

Loose Change - 2nd Edition - Google Video


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RE: "Ten Reasons You Will Not Recognize America in... - 10/13/2006 4:21:00 PM   
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I have a feeling Sinergy would go up there to try and rescue her.... maybe we could come up with a Dirty Dozen type event heh heh.



Hello A/all,

I teach defensive counter-attack.  Never signal one's intentions verbally (Im going to kick your ass) or non-verbally (balling your fists and moving in to hit).  The first one qualifies as pre-meditation in a court of law, the second allows the other person to get the jump on you by stepping in to the attack.

Just me, could be wrong, but there you go.

Sinergy

p.s. I am more than willing to provide julia with milk in order to keep her from doing time in the Big House.

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