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micro managment - 1/20/2005 12:55:09 PM   
liljoy


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Status: offline 		Last summer we met this wonderful couple. They were VERY into micro management.

she asks while cooking dinner what herbs He wants in each dish.

she waits for permission before eating

she asks for permission before smoking

Some of what they do i could see us doing but some i could not imagine. Master is sooo not a cook and wouldn't have the slightest idea what herbs should go with what. i made a comment on the way back to where we were stying that i couldn't see us living like that. It's not a judgment against them or anyone else that lives that way. Simply it wouldn't work for us.
The friend we were staying with at the time said that was what she craved to live if only she could trust that much again.

anyway on to my question... how many of you lie the micro mange life?

Does it include the kitchen? i'm the kind of cook that throws this and that together to see if it works lol Happily most of the time it does. Master seldom has a certain request for dinner. Of course when He does, He get's His wish. Often i don't even know what's going to be for dinner until it's cooking.
So it's hard for me to reate to

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RE: micro managment - 1/20/2005 1:09:41 PM   
sub4hire


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Status: offline 		I guess you could say Doug micro manages my life. Although I don't see it that way. Then again when we have had discussions with others in the past. I do recall him saying how much work it had been in the beginning. Getting to know me so well, that he could manage my day to day life. He doesn't say that anymore.
Then again, maybe that is just because we've been together so long. We can complete one another’s sentences. We can look at one another and know the plethora of emotions going through each other.
He does tell me what he wants for dinner each day. Basically he tells me when to do almost everything. When alone for whatever reason I usually feel very alone. Some part of me is missing. I guess in reality part of me is gone.
I guess about the only thing he does not tell me how to do is clean the house. I like things organized a certain way. I’ve always been like that. Aside from the fact I am a much cleaner person than he is.

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RE: micro managment - 1/20/2005 1:22:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		It's not my thing at all. I've always found that if I have to micromanange something I would simply prefer to do it myself. It's a preference thing, really. I haven't the patience for it on a daily basis.

On the other hand, for the purpose of training someone, it's a completely different story. I have absolutely no problem taking things step-by-step a few times to ensure that the trainee understands precisely how I want something done. To me that's a completely different thing than what I understand micromanagement to be. Once I train someone in my preferences, I expect them to be able to perform independantly.

There are some things I still maintain control over on a daily basis. Her wardrobe, whether or not she's allowed to masturbate, household expenditures other than groceries and pre-approved supply inventories are all areas where I maintain control. Perhaps it's merely that I cherry-pick those areas that we find most appropriate to our relationship in which to engage in micromanagement.

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RE: micro managment - 1/20/2005 1:36:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		I could never live that way. Hubby knows nothing about cooking, cleaning or other houshold chores. He just expects it to be done. I always ask Him what He wants for meals, but He doesn't try to tell me how to make it.

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RE: micro managment - 1/20/2005 2:01:14 PM   
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Hubby knows nothing about cooking, cleaning or other houshold chores. He just expects it to be done. I always ask Him what He wants for meals, but He doesn't try to tell me how to make it.


Neither does Doug on most cases. Although he does happen to know what the food is supposed to taste like.
What if you want pork chops for dinner. Your huband tells you he wants steak. What do you make?

In our case it is not micro management to the core. It's sort of like. I expect the house to be clean when I get home. Now, how you go about doing that is your issue. As long as it is done.

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RE: micro managment - 1/20/2005 2:09:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: sub4hire

What if you want pork chops for dinner. Your huband tells you he wants steak. What do you make?


Hehhehehe.

Sorry, but as a college student, this makes me laugh. It would be so great if we had both pork chops and steak at the same time.

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RE: micro managment - 1/20/2005 2:18:13 PM   
liljoy


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ORIGINAL: sub4hire

Neither does Doug on most cases. Although he does happen to know what the food is supposed to taste like.
What if you want pork chops for dinner. Your huband tells you he wants steak. What do you make?

In our case it is not micro management to the core. It's sort of like. I expect the house to be clean when I get home. Now, how you go about doing that is your issue. As long as it is done.



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RE: micro managment - 1/20/2005 2:38:38 PM   
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What if you want pork chops for dinner. Your huband tells you he wants steak. What do you make?


I have pork chops and He has steak. Our tastes are very different and we often eat different meals, but i always give Him what He wants, as long as it it on the South Beach plan. Since He works out of the house it is often 3 meals a day, but we do go out a lot, especially for breakfast. I don't like to eat out as much as He does, but if He wants to go, we go.

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RE: micro managment - 1/20/2005 8:39:35 PM   
phoenix52


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Status: offline 		my Master does not really micro manage me, He has actually said it would be a pain for him to do so. i do have to get permission to climax, he okays my outfits when we go out for the evening, he requires me to do housework and two hours of homework a day.

*i* don't think this is micro management, maybe some would

shannon

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RE: micro managment - 1/20/2005 9:00:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		I began several attempts to answer this, wanting to state that I micromanage only those areas I know something about. However, this isn’t true! I micromanage everything I can.

For example: There’s a task, such as laundry, that I know a lot about and exactly how to do it. For these, I have instructions written out, down to how to fold my shirts a particular way. No, really. I have instructions written out on how to do my laundry. Stop laughing.

If I wanted something done where I didn’t understand (or want to understand) the details to get the outcome, I will still micromanage the outcome. Meaning, I would be very detailed about that I wanted in the end. I make plans for the flower bed layout (yes, I have those…stop laughing); I’d draw up dimensions for a cage (haven’t done that yet, but I can and will).

There are other things that I really don’t care about, so I’m less likely to MM them. For example, I don’t care how the oil is changed in my car, so long as you recycle the oil, use 10W30…oh, and I think it takes 5 quarts. I’d rather not have synthetic oil. Don’t forget to replace the drain cap before you fill it and let it settle after the 4th quart to make sure it need a whole 5 quarts. Oh wait…that’s micro managed too. Damn.

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RE: micro managment - 1/20/2005 9:46:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		For erin and I it's a mixed bag. Until we can actually be together 24/7 I don't worry too much about trying to manage her day to day. For now we just keep it to the customary things. When we're together I tell her what to cook but not how to cook it although I do control the spices she puts in my food. I am more strict when it comes to what she wears. She has a cute set of pajamas with teddy bears on them that I love to have her wear to bed. It's a "daddy's little girl" kind of thing for me. (lol...she's gonna be pissed I mentioned them) When we're going out I decide not only if she wears a skirt or not but how short or long it can be. I also like for her to match what I wear in some manner. Usually in color. I think it makes us look better as a couple. When she can finally move in with me I expect I'll be fairly pickey about when and how she cleans the house as I have my own way of doing it and I want it kept that way.

On the other side of this coin I certainly let her have her own opinions. I don't tell her who to vote for and actually we have very different views on politics, religion, and many other subjects. I don't tell her how to handle her affairs regarding her children but I will make the occasional comment about her dogs. I am FAR more strict about animal behavior than she is.

I don't think I really want to micro-manage every aspect of her existence but I do look forward to working with the different levels of management over her when we finally get together. Actually I think she will prefer me to be more controlling than I probably will be.

I'm looking to get some new ideas from this thread so I hope everyone is willing to post something regarding the specifics of what they practice.

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RE: micro managment - 1/21/2005 9:48:40 AM   
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quote:

For example: There’s a task, such as laundry, that I know a lot about and exactly how to do it. For these, I have instructions written out, down to how to fold my shirts a particular way. No, really. I have instructions written out on how to do my laundry. Stop laughing.


Ex Military maybe? Or just born into it? Or somehow affiliated with it? I remember in basic we had to fold our t-shirts into 6 inch perfect squares. I was perfect at doing this. So perfect I folded everyone's shirts for them and basically I owned 85 little slaves willing to do anything for me at a whim...hehe.

Actually that is why I was put in charge of the house. I'm sort of the same way. If you can't do something right, then don't do it. I'd rather fold a towel once so it is uniform than to rip it out of the cabinet later on to re-fold it because it doesn't quite match.
Anal or whatever you want to call it. I guess it is how we get our certain jobs we must do daily.

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RE: micro managment - 1/21/2005 10:32:04 AM   
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ORIGINAL: sub4hire

...basically I owned 85 little slaves willing to do anything for me at a whim...hehe.



Lucky you! Maybe I should join the military? Well...maybe not. My aorta would probably explode on the first push-up!

BTW...Thanks for your service to the country. I don't mean to get off the subject but am I correct that your husband is also serving? If so, please extend my gratitude to him as well.

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RE: micro managment - 1/21/2005 10:48:09 AM   
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BTW...Thanks for your service to the country. I don't mean to get off the subject but am I correct that your husband is also serving? If so, please extend my gratitude to him as well.


No, but that is where I met my first Dom. We were together 10 year's before he was transferred. Actually he is back here now. Living 50 miles from where we lived together. Well maybe 60.
I have a new Dom now. Not married, the date is sometime in June this year.

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RE: micro managment - 1/21/2005 11:19:14 AM   
Mercnbeth


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RE: micro managment - 1/21/2005 1:53:45 PM   
bottominwa


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Status: offline 		In this girl's perspective micro management is a wonderfu training tool..but she has yet to see anyone live this way for any extended period of time it has the potential to be endlessly draining on the Dominant....and in this House atleast, a servant is owned to make life easier not more tedious...having said that years ago much of her life was micromanaged for short periods to "teach" her how to do things to the house preference..gradually they became more of her own habits and mechanisms and then the "management" part of things went away so they are more reflexive now.
she would think living micromanagement in every last aspect day in and out would prove stagnating for both parties.

We have children...Master hardly needs another..lol.

sabrina King

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RE: micro managment - 1/21/2005 2:23:46 PM   
sub4hire


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Status: offline 		I actually agree with you bottom. You were trained, so no more management. I believe all relationships if they lasted long enough would evolve into much the same.
Then, it would no longer be called micro management.

Just as on past threads about control. Once you live it long enough it is day to day routine. You don't feel as though you are giving up anything. Even though you are living life exactly the way the Dominant wants you to.


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RE: micro managment - 1/21/2005 3:03:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		Gloria,
Yes it seems that really that is the crux of what alot of these conversations hinge on...if the relationships last long enough...or develop far enough...some people are high speed and develop faster lol....they all seem to end up relatively in the same place to a certain extent a sort of symbiotic flow....even thought the ins and outs can be so different as night and day and the philosophy of how Houses live completely different by and large micro management etc are training techniques that are useful for just that "training"...but at a certain point one would hope to have a servant more or less trained....just as one does any employee....

This is right along the lines with the whole needs, wants, desires threads...she thinks it depends on one's perspective largely on the stage of their submission...how one views these words...same with training....at a certain point it is no longer training per se it is just protocol...and one hopes reflex atleast here that is...she knows some on these boards have a very different view.

it's weird agreeing with you Gloria...knock it off!

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RE: micro managment - 1/21/2005 6:06:45 PM   
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For micro-management it is dependent on what it is in reference to. Domestic duties? I expect them to be done, I do not have the time to be telling a girl how to do them. Will I manage diet, exercise, picking her clothes and things that I know about and have studied? Yes. A girls bodily functions and telling her when to go to the bathroom etc? No way. I do not need another 3 yo. Already have one and I am sure she would object to the competetion

But there are times in which I would expect the girl to be able to act as My agent in things, especially when I am not immediately available. I also just do not have the time or inclination to usually micromanage a girl that much.

Just My two tarn bits,

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RE: micro managment - 1/21/2005 6:11:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		thanks for all the input. ya'll pretty much see it the same as i do

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