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ORIGINAL: mons

susie
 
my word your the person who took offence to what i said. i will not repeat what i said to you i sure you can find it now why did you turn it inot a thread when i was only speakinfg of one person who said they would do this so a woman? you should had been woman enough to write me and ask me what did i mean but no you took it further up to make it appear i said all of tthe people here were sick! i never said that susie and you know this why cause major problems for me i will not leave her i see you wish this. you now come out anf say after i had said mean things to bita you come now after all of the problems are here. why did you not come before this why you a chicken to make that poor woman feel like crap becase if you is wrong and so dumb stand up and say what you did why leave her and many people thinking she did this you are not very high on the human poll you should had made it clear you said this and wrote it. i feel terrible to think i made her feel bad but you have a back bone of jelly to put this on her and when all of this time to tell the truth.. I am proud to say i do not lie i was taught this from a young age no one can trust a liar i do not trust you this would had been over and done with days ago. explain why you let her take the fault and why you laid back and had so much fun this is wrong and a liar is sick now on one here is a liar but you i will make that clear from the first start so susie dear will not thread this i am only speaking of you, you no one else.
 
now to all others i was not speaking to anyone man or womean it was a statement that was written in a reply, i am a dominant done things and will do them again but i find i have friend here i do not and never did think anyone of you is sick if is did i would not come here but then again we all have free speech and i have an opinion i would not  attack anyone here for that reason but something are  scray so with that i say let the games and fun began
 
mons   





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ORIGINAL: mons

susie

this is trying into a school girl thing i have never been nor will i ever be the type to go for this stuff this is the end of it that is one thing i do very well susie girl i read beyond post grad studies my writing is not what most would like to see but i understood and unstand all you wrote this is the end i had enough i am not mad nor do i think it is worth the school girl fun so see ya one thing i have in me is comtrol that is what who i am take care you may write others about this but not me find something more to do do you have a hobby? i have two wonderful dollhouse a friend sent me landof lakes butter so small and i have a new sofa it fun try it ok

now take care and be well

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ORIGINAL: mons

greetings

agirl the person you were speaking of i know you been here forever remember no cat fight lol no it was not you i was thinking of and i am glad you were not speaking in that realm

take care ageol

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ORIGINAL: Amaros

I have no idea who Mons was refering to originally as "sick", but it sound judgemental, which is naturally going to create a reaction formation in a community that by defintion is on the fringe and sensitive to perjorative appellations.

On the other hand, there are sick people in this subculture, as there are in any culture, so turning a specific observation and opinion into a generalized one is tricky business - as far as I'm concerned, the generalized debate has noting whatever to do with Mons, or whoever she originally referred to - they might well be sick - maybe they're just disgusting (eeeewww!), offensive, excessive, etc., I dunno.

"Sick", is an epithet I generally reserve for predatory psychopaths with no regard for the physical or psychological integity of their victims, as it implies some genuine and potentially dangerous pshychological imbalance - subs do occasionally end up in a hospital or a padded cell, just as they do in the vanilla world - just because something makes me queasy, or gives me pause, doesn't mean it's "sick" - and you'd have to go pretty far to even squick me anymore, it all pretty much fascinates me short of uncontrolled violence.

In short, one first feels obligated to discern whether the term is being used as a figure of speech ("dude, that's sick!), or in a imperative and perjorative sense, I'd have to see the original post or email to make that distinction.

If it was an email, which is a private correspondence, then bringing the author, mons apparently, into it in an open thread without permission or qualification, is wrong, and mons deserves and apology.

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ORIGINAL: susie

This was certainly not an email and mons posted her position on an open thread. However as I was posting my reply the thread was pulled (the posting by mons actually had nothing to do with the original thread and had nothing to do with it being pulled). Her position was that someone who engaged in clitoral irritant play was a sick person and wrong to do so, not that the practice itself was sick. My issue all along has been the difference between these two positions. I posted the post from mons in without editing it to be clear on that.

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ORIGINAL: mons

greetings
 
i have come time and again to say my sorry to bita and i mean it but as i said time to move on but some will not. this reminds and of 2 girls fighing in school even though they have been told to stop it must go on. it is done if i recive another letter to me i will be force to report you susie and agirl, i have never done this before i wil do it now now i wonder how many will take a hard line on that or is it ok to say leave me alone susie and agirl you been told and warn, i did try the nice way, now it is this way, now for all others i have fun here i learn and will still be apart of this forum with fun and private talk
 
mons

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ORIGINAL: Aine

Ok....

Is it just me or is this getting REALLY fucking petty?

mons is trying to make amends and trying to leave this thing  behind. LEAVE IT BE ALREADY for cripes sake.