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koimizu -> RE: What do you consider sick? (10/6/2006 9:08:25 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RiotGirl Am i the only person who would actually enjoy seeing "sick" things just for the pure educational and interesting twist of it? like scat play.. i couldnt do it.. and i think its pross IMO - but if i was some where where it was happening, while i'd be grossed out, i'd be watching facinated. And if i was with a really close friend, i'm one of those ppl that whispers in the ear a million questions.. "are they really gonna do that?" "oooo they did" "how is he not barfing" "wow, why are they doing that" "whats that supposed to do" "do you think they ever get used to the smell" ect ect ect ect. Course it would be like a "ewww - wow" sorta thing. maybe i'm just a curious person and i get fascinated easy. It really can be amazing what human beings will do. There are like no LIMITS to what people will do and well i for one dont mind being on the side lines watching them doing it - wondering in amazement and learning via osmosis. starts dancing around, one hand raised and uttering faintly animalistic hooting and 'oooh!' sounds as though possessed by a rabid orangutan me!!! OOOoh me!! me!! i do, i do!! ....then again...my mum always said i was touched in the head. When i asked her who had been touching me like that and was it appropriate, she laughed so hard the coffee hit the ceiling. 9.9 However yes, there is something intrinsically fascinating by things considered too gross or wapred to be real or conceivable. As if by somehow watching it happen, we confirm the existence of it and that yes, there are others who have an envelope waaaaaaaay past our own and are pushing it like the Maternity Ward. Still, 'train wreck' or not...joy is joy.

gooddogbenji -> RE: What do you consider sick? (10/6/2006 9:13:35 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MsKatHouston There are things I do not personally like and do not want to see. But as long as it is done with consenting adults, I say go for it. Many things also depend on the context. There are acts I find hot when in a private or fetish event but would find disturbing if done in other venues. Wait. So bursting into the kitchen, bending a slave over the sink, and fucking her in the ass is okay at home, but not in a restaurant??????? Restaurants should really have this put in the menu as a disclaimer...... Yours, benji Edited to add that I would like to apologize to the waiter at Jenny's, the chefs, the dishwasher, and Jenny herself. Jenny, that necklace looked like a collar. I hope you understand.

BitaTruble -> RE: What do you consider sick? (10/6/2006 10:16:35 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WhiteRadiance Is there anything we can do within the "lifestyle" that will not be accepted? Accepted as what? A healthy choice? There are, clearly, several activities which some folks do not accept as healthy. How those folks make such a determination, I have no clue, yet it happens every day. The ones who really throw me for a loop are those who make statements which base things on someone's age. If you are 50 and do XYZ to someone who is 18, you are sick. If you are 30 and do XYZ to someone who is 28, well, that's OK then. We don't need the state police determining what is or is not healthy for someone else as we get enough of that outside of BDSM. What we do need is to cultivate a culture which encourages education so the risk of damage is minimized and when people do make choices which have the potential to harm them, they do so with the full and knowledgeable consent. Making arbitrary statements as if they are facts does more harm than good and such things are almost always subjective rather than objective and are based on a personal feeling rather than a fact. The harm with making such statements in a public venue is that it has the potential to close minds, especially minds which are newly discovering the possiblities of BDSM. I think there are already plenty of closed minds both inside and outside of BDSM. We don't need any more of them closing up, shutting down and getting ever more Anita Bryants on the bandwagon trying to fight a 'bad' fight. quote: Do kinksters have the right to say they dislike certain activities, find them distasteful, abusive, or damaging? Unless someone took away the 1st ammendment while I was sleeping, they certainly have the 'right' to say damn near anything. It's a right which, ideally, will be excerised infrequently and backed up by logical and sound reasoning, especially when placed in context with 'abusive' which is a hot button swirling around in the BDSM vats. Before someone makes claim that something done by or to someone else is 'abusive', facts should be lined up and the case about it be proven. Just because I don't 'like' XYZ or XYZ is distasteful or has the potential to harm, it doesn't make it abusive. My right to speak out on such an issue ends when it slides into accusation or dissembling against any group of people. I think it should be noted that when someone is talking about a particular person doing a particular thing, it may become 'personal' to those of us who do that exact same thing. Human nature. John Dom is a sick fuck because he does "X". Well, I do "X" as well, so I can only read that as someone believes I am also a sick fuck for doing "X". To come back and say, "Oh, I didn't mean you", is a back peddle which does not hold water. I do take exception to that because doing "X" doesn't make me a sick fuck. I do "X" because I'm educated on how to do it, I enjoy it, I've studied it and find it acceptable and don't believe that "X" is going to do me or those with whom I engage in "X" any sort of harm, either physically or mentally although there are always risks that it may, of course. Nope, doing "X" doesn't make me a sick fuck. It's doing "Y" which makes me a sick fuck. [;)] Celeste

marieToo -> RE: What do you consider sick? (10/6/2006 10:21:02 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail what is sick is somebody getting a blowjob and it isn't me. Really!!!! Ron laughing my FUCKIN ass off!!

Lashra -> RE: What do you consider sick? (10/6/2006 11:15:20 AM)
Somethings I do consider sick, twisted or just plain gross. I, like most people have an opinion. But do I voice it? Not always, I figure if two grown adults are engaging in something they find fulfilling and its not breaking the law or hurting Me or Mine, fine let them carry on. But if someone asks my opinion, then the flood gate has been opened and I will tell them honestly just how I feel about it. If they get upset by my opinion, well I figure they shouldn't have asked so it is on them. What do I personally consider sick? People who truly believe that one sex is superior to the other, forced slavery, those who think their race is superior to others, pedophiles, brainwashers, abusers, beastality. Under the twisted/gross category I have scat, watersports, bloodplay,vomit play. Now I am not attacking what anyone is doing I'm merely posting my belief according to the title of this thread. What two consenting adults do is their business, enjoy. ~Lashra

marieToo -> RE: What do you consider sick? (10/6/2006 11:56:56 AM)
General reply: Unlike most people, I dont think consent necessarily makes something good or right. But of course everyone is free to do his/her own thing, regardless of what I or anyone else thinks. Sure, I see alot of things as sick, wrong, immoral, whathaveyou; inside and outside of bdsm. I hope the day never comes when I become indescriminant in my choices. I have no problem admitting that open-mindedness has it's limitations in my world. On the other hand, I dont think words like "abusive", "sick" "painful" "perverted" etc automatically imply that something is bad or wrong. I may think that something is perverted, sick or even abusive without necessarily thinking that it should be stopped. For instance, longing to be beat so hard that you have welts and bruises could be described as an 'abusive' behavior, though some may like it and engage in it. But because one enjoys it and willingly engages in it, doesnt mean its not abusive to the human body. I don't have a hard time saying, "I like certain things that are commonly considered sick, or abusive or perverted or whatever", therefore I dont find insult in it when someone describes something I do as sick....cuz...well...Id have to agree with them. If I can endure my dominant cracking me across the face while calling me a nasty little cunt, it's not going to crush me if a stranger on a message board calls me a pervert. But then thats just me. I could be wrong. Hey wait...isnt that someone else's line?

WhiteRadiance -> RE: What do you consider sick? (10/6/2006 11:59:41 AM)
I regret posting this topic now. I did not intend it to be another discussion of hard limits. I also had no idea I violated TOS and I apologise to the Mods.

BitaTruble -> RE: What do you consider sick? (10/6/2006 12:06:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WhiteRadiance I regret posting this topic now. I did not intend it to be another discussion of hard limits. I also had no idea I violated TOS and I apologise to the Mods. I'm quite glad you posted it, WhiteRadiance. It's up to all of us to stay within the guidelines and keep the discussion outside of TOS areas. I believe we're doing a pretty good job of it and it's a subject worthy of discussion. Really, it's not so much about what others do or don't do, but about our own subjective feelings on what others do or don't do. How we allow the actions of others to effect us and whether or not we want to allow that to continue to happen because we're comfortable being in that place .. or whether we want to broaden ourselves a bit, expand our thinking until we get to a place where we can both accept our reactions to them and accept that someone else has different reactions and that it's OK to have those reactions. On occasion, I believe discussions such as this one will change someone's thinking completely and open up their mind to new ideas and possiblities, if not for themselves, then for the allowance that it actually can be something which is 'part' of a healthy lifestyle for someone else and much like beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so is 'sick'. :) Celeste

ownedgirlie -> RE: What do you consider sick? (10/6/2006 12:17:03 PM)
Brilliant post, Celeste. Cheers to you. :)

marieToo -> RE: What do you consider sick? (10/6/2006 12:50:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie Brilliant post, Celeste. Cheers to you. :) Agreed. I think she summed it up quite nicely.

BlkTallFullfig -> RE: What do you consider sick? (10/6/2006 1:17:43 PM)
quote: What do you consider sick Adults who are afraid to live because they will die/go to hell. ...And anything involving non consent/done with someone who is legally/mentally unable to consent. other than that, it's all good. M

agirl -> RE: What do you consider sick? (10/6/2006 1:36:07 PM)
I haven't come across any of those circumstances as yet and I'm probably unlikely to. I don't find them at all yukky though. Of course, on a forum such as this ,you can voice your distaste of anything you like....it has little to do with any right. In fact, you can voice your distaste about anything at any time. I can't think of anything that is truly distasteful to me, nope, not even scat. I haven't experienced it in the context of my relationship, as yet. Going on experience, my guess is that if it was required/asked for/ insisted on or directed, I'd not find it awful. There are a few things that I really do not like but they have nothing to do with bdsm. agirl

clodivs -> RE: What do you consider sick? (10/6/2006 4:23:55 PM)
Personnally, I've always thought the cold virus to be kind of sick. Bubonic plague, too. That's so, like, ill.

MagiksSlave -> RE: What do you consider sick? (10/6/2006 5:21:12 PM)
Amputation play erm... I know what it sounds like but i dont really uinderstand what it is.. can someone explain maybe??? Magik's slave

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: What do you consider sick? (10/6/2006 5:37:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MagiksSlave Amputation play erm... I know what it sounds like but i dont really uinderstand what it is.. can someone explain maybe??? Magik's slave Fairly self explanatory- removing pieces of a human's body. It's rare and most often seen in an extreme fetish sense rather than a kink (for obvious reasons).

Level -> RE: What do you consider sick? (10/6/2006 5:44:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WhiteRadiance Is there anything we can do within the "lifestyle" that will not be accepted? Do kinksters have the right to say they dislike certain activities, find them distasteful, abusive, or damaging? Case in point: I have heard of several instances of Dom/mes punishing a slave by making them xxxxxxxxxxxxxx. I have heard of a Domme and sub being married and at the reception he was told to suck every dick and lick every pussy in the room. I have heard of a Master making his slave take a shit in front of a group of people. Are there any here who find these things unacceptable, and if so, why? Would you do these things, or have you done them? [Mod Note: reference to illegal activity removed] I support the right of consenting adults to do what they wish with one another, barring death. I support equally the right of someone to object to these things. The examples you've given don't bother me much, though I would hope the dick-sucking at the wedding would be done in as safe a manner as possible.

OnyxGoddess -> RE: What do you consider sick? (10/6/2006 5:58:37 PM)
*um...is amputation by a non medically trained person even legal? aren't there bio hazard disposal of the part and treatment issues of the amputee that have to be implemented? educate me.*

givemyall -> RE: What do you consider sick? (10/6/2006 6:01:18 PM)
My mate is always calling me sick..... 'ohhh Claire you sick bitch' is one of her usual comments. She is very vanilla and finds the moderate things in my life hard to comprehend. I have other friends that are a little more open minded and dont find the moderate things I do as sick, instead they find the extreme things I do to be sick..... so I suppose it all depends on how open minded you are. Although my personal belief is that you will always criticise what you dont understand or are scared of experiencing and understanding. I'm happy whatever anyone calls me, im me, nothing can change me and no other persons opinion is going to change what I do - isn't that whats important?

SirMoi -> RE: What do you consider sick? (10/6/2006 6:04:42 PM)
Everyone gets to decide what kink is ok for them, but they do not have the right to decide what kink is ok for someone else, as long as it's consensual between all parties involved. My 2 cents worth.

TxBadMan -> RE: What do you consider sick? (10/6/2006 6:06:21 PM)
quote: Is there anything we can do within the "lifestyle" that will not be accepted? Of course there is. There are many activities that certain individuals will never accept for themselves; nor will they ever accept as being 'ok' when done by others. quote: Do kinksters have the right to say they dislike certain activities, find them distasteful, abusive, or damaging? ANYONE, not just kinksters, has the right to their own preferences and opinions on things. They also have the right to voice these opinions and preferences; as long as they remember that there will always be others who disagree. quote: Are there any here who find these things unacceptable, and if so, why? Just because I may find them unacceptable behavior for MYSELF AND MINE, does not mean that others will feel the same way.

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