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Revealing Health Info to Insurance Companies


well, if i have to
  14% (3)
i'd answer a questionaire
  38% (8)
what the hell; i'd waive all my privacy rights
  4% (1)
what's insurance?
  19% (4)
i would do it for health insurance only
  19% (4)
i would do it for life insurance only
  4% (1)


Total Votes : 21
(last vote on : 10/8/2006 7:13:52 AM)
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pinkee -> Revealing Health Info to Insurance Companies (10/6/2006 5:10:17 PM)

i'm sure by now, E/everyone has read the multitude of Privacy Rights Notices issued by MDs, hospitals, dentists, and other health care providers.  The question is, what information would Y/you release in order to obtain life or health insurance?
 
(my answer was "i would answer a questionaire.")

pinkee




JerseyKrissi72 -> RE: Revealing Health Info to Insurance Companies (10/6/2006 5:27:21 PM)

i would answer a questionaire..




pinkee -> RE: Revealing Health Info to Insurance Companies (10/6/2006 8:53:24 PM)

Hey; five members answered the poll but only one posted a reply!  Y/you guys are lazy, lol.
 
pinkee




hypnoticblue -> RE: Revealing Health Info to Insurance Companies (10/6/2006 9:01:03 PM)

what the hell is insurance?? 




cuddleheart50 -> RE: Revealing Health Info to Insurance Companies (10/7/2006 3:07:02 AM)

I have no insurance.  [:(]




pinkee -> RE: Revealing Health Info to Insurance Companies (10/7/2006 10:01:35 AM)

Lmao; i am sure E/everyone knows what "insurance" is; i just added that to the Poll to be a smarty pants.  As for not having insurance, that is a national crisis helping to destroy this country's middle class. 
 
Nonetheless, if it were offered to you free, would you disclose all your health information in exchange?
 
pinkee




amlonging -> RE: Revealing Health Info to Insurance Companies (10/7/2006 10:42:06 AM)

The question is, what information would Y/you release in order to obtain life or health insurance?

In regards to health insurance.  Consider non-disclosure and the ramifications in  a scenerio I know of.....
76 yr old woman who does have health insurance and also a mirad of health issues.
She has difficulty breathing and is VERY anemic.  Her MD has an echocardiogram and EKG done.  Both are very reveling and says this patient does NOT have anemia.
The patient is discussing alternatives to her anemia with the MD and asks, waht about my echo and EkG?  He gets the report, is shocked and she is in the ICU 3 hours later waiting for a pacer insertion.
This woman's son, who has NO insurance has difficulty breathing so go to his MD.  He finds out not only does he have an abnormal EKG but also an abnormal heart sound as well as emphazema. [sm=confused.gif]
He discusses with his mother the results and she says rather aloofly, I think the doctor told me I had "that" before I had my hip surgery (22 yrs ago, which happens to be how old he is now, 54).

With this health history...will ANY insurance broker carry him?

With this history he cannot afford NOT to give full disclosure?

He is caught between a rock and hard place. 
HIPAA and Insurance brokers have NO solutions for such a person. 
So the results are 1) remain with no insurance and take the financial crisis as it comes
                              2) get insurance coverage and pay more in high premiums in one year than he would pay for a pacer insertion and follow-up.

What is middle America to do?




bills944 -> RE: Revealing Health Info to Insurance Companies (10/7/2006 11:04:33 AM)

https://www.pparx.org/Intro.php




bills944 -> RE: Revealing Health Info to Insurance Companies (10/7/2006 11:09:58 AM)

 

http://illnessprotection.com/




bills944 -> RE: Revealing Health Info to Insurance Companies (10/7/2006 11:32:51 AM)



Mass. bill requires health insurance
Romney may get compromise today
By Scott Helman, Globe Staff  |  April 4, 2006

Every Massachusetts resident would be required to have health insurance on July 1, 2007, under a landmark healthcare bill the Legislature could send to Governor Mitt Romney as early as today. 
http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2006/04/04/mass_bill_requires_health_insurance/




kisshou -> RE: Revealing Health Info to Insurance Companies (10/7/2006 1:44:54 PM)

that is amazing , I wish it had its own thread! I wonder if it will pass and how the state will fair once it does.


I also though the what's insurance was the option for the uninsured to choose.




pinkee -> RE: Revealing Health Info to Insurance Companies (10/7/2006 2:02:37 PM)

bill, requiring every state resident to buy health insurance at each individual's own expense will solve nothing and place an extreme burden on residents who are middle class, lower middle class, or working poor.  The latest figure i heard bandied about is $4,000 per annum for a family of four without any health problems (including pregnancy) 
 
IMHO, this proposal has no more merit than the "Medical Savings Account" which Congress approved, allowing an employee to pay for medical care before taxes.  Big deal; that'll certainly provide enough money for a liver transplant or alzheimer's drug regime.
 
amlonging is absolutely correct; HIPAA offers no relief either, as an employee who has lost his health insurance by exhausting his COBRA coverage will be offered no more than a bare bones policy, excluding any pre-exisiting conditions, and costing at least $1,000 per month for one person.
 
i myself went thru the COBRA and HIPAA merry-go-round.  My COBRA payments were over 1/3 of my monthly unemployment insurance benefit, which ran out several months before my COBRA coverage did.  So for 18 months, i paid about $300 a month for insurance, and was not working or receiving unemployment insurance for about 6 months thereof.  Thankfully i had assets to liquidate and savings to exhaust.
 
In the scenario posited by amlonging, the uninsured son has two huge problems.  First, he cannot afford to pay the medical bills he racked up already.  Second, he has a chronic condition which will require contiuing care for life, and no way to pay for it.  Perhaps he can solve his first problem by declaring bankruptcy -- though the law is now quite hostile to consumers -- but how does he address his second problem?
 
A state law requiring him to buy health insurance will only place him crosswise with the law, as you cannot get blood from a turnip.  Charity hospitals, free drug programs and other such resources have all but evaporated.
 
Middle classs people will spend down to their last dime for life saving or enhancing care, especially for a child.  Once having done so, what becomes of them?  Do they join the ranks of the homeless?  Will we see the death rate for mothers and newborns rise as people are unable to obtain medical care for childbirth?
 
Flawed as it may be, i think this country must consider socialised medicine.  The egregious, greedy, corrupt insurance companies, HMO's, and pharmacutical industry must be nationalised and the profit motive removed.  i frankly can see no alternative.
 
pinkee




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