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America ponders cutting Iraq in three - 10/7/2006 11:15:28 PM   
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"America ponders cutting Iraq in three" 
This is what I recommend long ago.


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RE: America ponders cutting Iraq in three - 10/7/2006 11:30:08 PM   
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dude dont you get tired of this stuff? 

Man my cat is looking really cute right now and making really wierd noises in his sleep.  Think he's dreaming about stealing my food?  I bet he is the little bastard.  BUT he DOES have half a pastry eaten next to him.. maybe he's saving it for later.. dunno..

dude.. and he's so addicted to cat weed.  Neither of my other cats are, but for him its like a binkie and he doesnt share it well.  Then of course he becomes nuts and i warn anyone in the vicinity to NOT pick him up and to steer clear, but as he's getting older he's starting to calm down and just generally uses his paws like hands to rub it all over his head.

He's so cute.

YEAH my topic is much more interesting



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RE: America ponders cutting Iraq in three - 10/8/2006 3:37:41 AM   
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"[Ckkkk], this is Oscar Tango Custard WhipTheHip, over [Ckkkkk]"
"Roger that, whippy, what's your advice today, over, [Ckkkkkk]"
"Invade Iran, and drop Bill Gates libel suits, [Ckkkkk]"
"We're on it, boss, thank you for calling WalMart, over and out [Ckkkkk]"

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RE: America ponders cutting Iraq in three - 10/8/2006 5:24:49 AM   
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"America ponders cutting Iraq in three" 
This is what I recommend long ago.



Have they asked the Iraqis what they want?

Cutting Iraq in three is as good as defeat because it will rejig the region's power balance without knowing the consequences.

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RE: America ponders cutting Iraq in three - 10/8/2006 7:17:42 AM   
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Sometimes I wish somebody would trisect you......that way the rest of us mere mortals won't have to feel so inadequate.

Have you rediscovered the theory of relativity yet today Mike?

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RE: America ponders cutting Iraq in three - 10/8/2006 8:52:27 AM   
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Sometimes I wish somebody would trisect you......that way the rest of us mere mortals won't have to feel so inadequate.

Have you rediscovered the theory of relativity yet today Mike?


Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

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RE: America ponders cutting Iraq in three - 10/8/2006 9:17:52 AM   
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"America ponders cutting Iraq in three" 
This is what I recommend long ago.


Have they asked the Iraqis what they want?

Cutting Iraq in three is as good as defeat because it will rejig the region's power balance without knowing the consequences.

 
I communicate with Iraqis on the Internet all the time, and this would be satisfactory to the one's I spoke with.   They also don't understand why Bush didn't do this in the first place.   The Kurds want it, the Shiites want it, and the Sunnis want it, because they can't get along with each other and have very little in common..   The only problem is exactly where the lines would be drawn because valuable oil fields could be put in one sector or another depending on the exact division.   The Sunnis area would turn into one that would become like former Iraq,.but they would control a much smaller region and much less oil wealth than Saddam controlled.  They would be left much less powerful, and no threat to any other country in the region.  Turkey would be very upset, because they fear a Kurdish state on their border.   The part of Turkey that borders on Iraq is comprised mostly of Kurds.  A Kurdish state on their border would cause those Kurds to rebel to join their fellow Kurds, and make an even larger state.  Turkey would lose land.  Turkey gave us minimal help during our invasion of Iraq, so we don't owe them much.  They have otherwise been a loyal ally, but the Kurds would be a greater ally. We allowed their slaughter following our pull out from Iraq the first time around. Iraqi Shiites will probably be neutral to us as long as they are led by Ayatollah Sistani.  If Sadr gains power we may gain another enemy, but he has been pretty quite these days since we beat his forces in Sadr city.  If we do attack Iran and cause regime change there, the US may have a lot less to fear.  Iran is the number one state sponsor of terrorism.  Syria will be isolated.  And the Muslim world will no longer have a state that is hyper-militant.

I never rediscovered relativity, though I suspect we don't interpret it correctly. I think light doesn't travel at any speed.  I think light is stationary.   I think everything else is moving near lightspeed including us.  At this point I'm a nobody, and will probably remain a nobody.  But the fact that I am so often mocked and ridiculed gives me a ray of hope that someday that may change.

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RE: America ponders cutting Iraq in three - 10/8/2006 9:46:40 AM   
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The only problem is exactly where the lines would be drawn because valuable oil fields could be put in one sector or another depending on the exact division.   The Sunnis area would turn into one that would become like former Iraq,.but they would control a much smaller region and much less oil wealth than Saddam controlled.  They would be left much less powerful, and no threat to any other country in the region.  Turkey would be very upset, because they fear a Kurdish state on their border.   The part of Turkey that borders on Iraq is comprised mostly of Kurds.  A Kurdish state on their border would cause those Kurds to rebel to join their fellow Kurds, and make an even larger state.  Turkey would lose land.  Turkey gave us minimal help during our invasion of Iraq, so we don't owe them much.  They have otherwise been a loyal ally, but the Kurds would be a greater ally. We allowed their slaughter following our pull out from Iraq the first time around. Iraqi Shiites will probably be neutral to us as long as they are led by Ayatollah Sistani.  If Sadr gains power we may gain another enemy, but he has been pretty quite these days since we beat his forces in Sadr city.  If we do attack Iran and cause regime change there, the US may have a lot less to fear.  Iran is the number one state sponsor of terrorism.  Syria will be isolated.  And the Muslim world will no longer have a state that is hyper-militant.


A lot of truth in this.
 
Former Secretary of State James Baker said today that suggestions along these lines, given to his bipartisan Iraq Study Group, were met somewhat with agreement, though not all felt it would work. The Iraq Study Group will likely give its assesment to the public in December, he said.
 
This, along with the growing grumbles of such as Republican senator John Warner, may just be enough to get a change of course in Iraq.

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RE: America ponders cutting Iraq in three - 10/8/2006 11:37:50 AM   
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Hey Whip

I wonder, are you a cook?   You keep bringing up leftovers for us to rehash

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RE: America ponders cutting Iraq in three - 10/8/2006 12:39:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: WhipTheHip

quote:

ORIGINAL: meatcleaver
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ORIGINAL: WhipTheHip
"America ponders cutting Iraq in three" 
This is what I recommend long ago.


Have they asked the Iraqis what they want?

Cutting Iraq in three is as good as defeat because it will rejig the region's power balance without knowing the consequences.

 
I communicate with Iraqis on the Internet all the time, and this would be satisfactory to the one's I spoke with.   They also don't understand why Bush didn't do this in the first place.   The Kurds want it, the Shiites want it, and the Sunnis want it, because they can't get along with each other and have very little in common..   The only problem is exactly where the lines would be drawn because valuable oil fields could be put in one sector or another depending on the exact division.   The Sunnis area would turn into one that would become like former Iraq,.but they would control a much smaller region and much less oil wealth than Saddam controlled.  They would be left much less powerful, and no threat to any other country in the region.  Turkey would be very upset, because they fear a Kurdish state on their border.   The part of Turkey that borders on Iraq is comprised mostly of Kurds.  A Kurdish state on their border would cause those Kurds to rebel to join their fellow Kurds, and make an even larger state.  Turkey would lose land.  Turkey gave us minimal help during our invasion of Iraq, so we don't owe them much.  They have otherwise been a loyal ally, but the Kurds would be a greater ally. We allowed their slaughter following our pull out from Iraq the first time around. Iraqi Shiites will probably be neutral to us as long as they are led by Ayatollah Sistani.  If Sadr gains power we may gain another enemy, but he has been pretty quite these days since we beat his forces in Sadr city.  If we do attack Iran and cause regime change there, the US may have a lot less to fear.  Iran is the number one state sponsor of terrorism.  Syria will be isolated.  And the Muslim world will no longer have a state that is hyper-militant.

I never rediscovered relativity, though I suspect we don't interpret it correctly. I think light doesn't travel at any speed.  I think light is stationary.   I think everything else is moving near lightspeed including us.  At this point I'm a nobody, and will probably remain a nobody.  But the fact that I am so often mocked and ridiculed gives me a ray of hope that someday that may change.


This is the only cogent end-game proposal to the Iraqui War i have heard.  (But then i avoid the news like the plague now, because news about the wars makes me cry.)
 
i am also a bit mystified as to why all the flaming but -- Yanno -- i never understood it to begin with.
 
pinkee

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RE: America ponders cutting Iraq in three - 10/8/2006 12:45:09 PM   
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Laughing...YOU recommended this?  And now they're finally listening to you?

Iraq was created, silly, out of three provinces of the former Ottoman Empire.  Dividing the country back into three parts was like the first idea anyone has ever had.

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"America ponders cutting Iraq in three" 
This is what I recommend long ago.


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RE: America ponders cutting Iraq in three - 10/8/2006 1:45:57 PM   
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Clearly, he rediscovered that idea, all by himself.

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RE: America ponders cutting Iraq in three - 10/8/2006 2:04:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Arpig

Sometimes I wish somebody would trisect you......that way the rest of us mere mortals won't have to feel so inadequate.

Have you rediscovered the theory of relativity yet today Mike?


At least he has cut down his font size.. one step at a time, Arpig.. one step at a time... :)

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