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RE: punishment - 10/12/2006 8:33:48 PM   
cloudboy


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I think I am in serious trouble with my Master and need to talk to someone. I haven't been in trouble in awhile and today I was totally stupid and disobeyed Him. I know He is dissapointed in me but I dont know if he's going to punish me or not. He just left for a meeting and im going nuts not knowing.


Sounds like no dessert for you tonight.

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RE: punishment - 10/12/2006 9:04:28 PM   
RiotGirl


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Status: offline 		hehehehehehehe - i totally feel you as i tend to get myself into trouble alot.  Yes, i'm wicked...   Actually i have major impusle issues.  I literally do not think out the consequences of what my actions are going to be.  i get into this very short term thinking.  Or hell, i get a little devil on my shoulder and rationalize why its "okay"  And as bad as it sounds, i'll even tell myself that he wont know, so there for it wont upset him, so there fore its okay.  Nevermind that i'm cheating myself, him, our relationship, and i always end up telling on myself. 

anywho - i feel for you.  No matter what anyone else says about deserving it, you should be thankful, or all that wonderful crap - its hard.  Sure they're right.  Doesnt take away from the part that is hard.  NOR really something you want to go through.  I dun care if some one offered me a million dollars to take a punishment - i STILL wouldnt want to go through it.  Getting in trouble, disobeying just plain sucks no matter how you sugar coat it. 

There is nothing anyone else can do or say to make it better.  But atleast know that after all is said in done - you really will appreciate it.  It'll ::sigh:: be worth all the misery of going through it. 

Good luck!



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RE: punishment - 10/13/2006 12:49:23 AM   
MasterNdorei


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Status: offline 		It seems you are more concerned with the punishment comming, than the fact you have displeased the One who owns you. i undertand being anxious about your fate, but you have not mentioned any guilt for having displeased Him, no regret, nor thoughts about how to handle things better in the future.... perhaps this is really an exciting thing for you, but has nothing to do with correcting poor behavior?

Master's dorei

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RE: punishment - 10/13/2006 2:30:22 AM   
agirl


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I dont think so, my Master gives me plenty of attention. I dont have to misbehave to get it. And I hate punishments and was trying to avoid one as long as possible--why did I disobey then? Honestly I really don't have a reason.



You have absolutely no reason?......Surely *something* must have crossed your mind while you were * not doing * whatever it was?.
I mean it could be that you ...forgot, or you didn't feel like bothering at the time, or you decided not to do it at the time, thinking you'd get around to it later.....etc.?

agirl




As bad as it sounds, I just chose not to do it. For no other reason then I just didnt want to. A stupid self centered decision I know.


Nope, it doesn't *sound* bad. It *sounds* pretty human.

When I disobey I ALWAYS know why, and if I do it's ALWAYS self-centred....It's all about me, what I do or don't want. The only *stupid* part is knowing that there'll be a price to pay and also ....that it was for MY BENEFIT to do it.

There are quite a few things that I *have* to do, which I don't like doing and which I rail against...........but actually, they are for MY benefit..........I just don't like doing them, frankly. I want them to have *been done*.......I don't care for the process of actually DOING them.

agirl







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RE: punishment - 10/13/2006 5:29:50 AM   
happypervert


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Although I don't see your disobedience as a good thing, I don't see it as entirely bad either. As long as such misbehavior is relatively rare, it could have the potential to be a spicy event in the power dynamic.

It may seem perverse, but I think of a power graph as being at a steady state when a relationship is running smoothly and then the graph spikes when it comes time for punishment. That happens because my mindset shifts from merely having authority to really using it, and then afterward I have a heightened sense of control; my girl also feels more controlled. Neither one of us enjoys punishment per se, though we do appreciate the exercise of power and her submission to it.

So I can understand why doms with a punishment kink can connect with bratty subs and play this out frequently enough that it may seem dysfunctional to the rest of us; perhaps enjoying it infrequently is just a milder form of the same dysfunction (or kink) depending on how you view it. It may be the kinky version of couples who argue so they can have make up sex.

It sounds to me like you are usually obedient, so psychoanalyzing yourself to find some deep seated reason for acting up may be pointless. I suspect that you are excited abouty our upcoming punishment while dreading it too, and you'll behave for a long time when it's finished. That's good; I hope your master beats the shit out of you and it is a cathartic experience for both of you.

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RE: punishment - 10/13/2006 5:41:08 AM   
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That's good; I hope your master beats the shit out of you and it is a cathartic experience for both of you.


LMAO.  Just the way that came out.. tickles me.    

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RE: punishment - 10/13/2006 5:59:31 AM   
SirLordTrainer


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As bad as it sounds, I just chose not to do it. For no other reason then I just didnt want to. A stupid self centered decision I know.
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To Me, this is as bad if not worse than the actual infraction. The fact you have no good excuse puts Me in mind that you really dont care in your service to your Master. Bad behavior for a submissive, let alone a ''slave''. I would say you deserve whats coming to you, be it mentally, physically or both. And if you were Mine and such temprement continued you would be dismissed.

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RE: punishment - 10/13/2006 6:46:45 AM   
Sinergy


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ORIGINAL: MasterNdorei

It seems you are more concerned with the punishment comming, than the fact you have displeased the One who owns you. i undertand being anxious about your fate, but you have not mentioned any guilt for having displeased Him, no regret, nor thoughts about how to handle things better in the future.... perhaps this is really an exciting thing for you, but has nothing to do with correcting poor behavior?

Master's dorei


Hello A/all,

This was my thought.  The OP seems more concerned with themself than they are with having upset their Master.

This is why I am not a big fan of corporal punishment for bad behavior.  I would express my disappointment and leave it up to the sub/slave to make it better if they wanted the relationship to continue.

Just me, could be wrong, but there you go.

Sinergy

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RE: punishment - 10/13/2006 6:52:43 AM   
happypervert


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ORIGINAL: happypervert
That's good; I hope your master beats the shit out of you and it is a cathartic experience for both of you.


LMAO.  Just the way that came out.. tickles me.   

heh . . . good! I was trying to end that on a lighter note so glad that did some tickling. And thanks for commenting on it -- it's nice to see someone didn't get bored before getting to the "punch line" at the end. heh


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RE: punishment - 10/13/2006 11:47:50 AM   
Sub03


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And I hate punishments and was trying to avoid one as long as possible--why did I disobey then? Honestly I really don't have a reason.


Why do you obey him?  From this statement it seems that you obey to avoid punishment.  I find that external motivations to maintain certain behaviors rarely work in the long term.  If you are internally motivated to maintain certain behaviors you are going to have much more success at them.

Knight's kyra


I should have made my post more clear. I obey my Master because I want to please him and make him happy. I enjoy doing things for him and making things a little easier for him. Do I want to avoid punishments? Of course I do, nobody like getting in trouble. But that isnt the reason I want to avoid them, the reason I want to avoid them is that if I am getting punished it means that I have did something to dissapoint and upset my Master. But im only human and not perfect so I will mess up at times and the times that I do I immediately feel awful as I did yesterday. Not because im in trouble but because I have let down my Master, because I know he is dissapointed in me. I know that it is my fault that he is upset. That is always my first reaction and I always mentally berate myself for whatever I did.

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RE: punishment - 10/13/2006 12:02:07 PM   
Sub03


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As bad as it sounds, I just chose not to do it. For no other reason then I just didnt want to. A stupid self centered decision I know.


To Me, this is as bad if not worse than the actual infraction. The fact you have no good excuse puts Me in mind that you really dont care in your service to your Master. Bad behavior for a submissive, let alone a ''slave''. I would say you deserve whats coming to you, be it mentally, physically or both. And if you were Mine and such temprement continued you would be dismissed.


***sorry for the double post but trying to answer peoples posts and thought trying to lump it all into one post might get a little confusing**


I agree my behavior was bad and uncalled for. Ill give you that. But I dont agree that I dont care about my service to my Master. I love my Master, I love being his slave and I love doing things for him that make him happy and make him proud of me. Yesterday was not a good example of that however, but im only human and I will mess up at times. I try my best to make those times few and far between because I hate dissapointing my Master. As I said in my last post I do feel extremely guilty for displeasing him and the moment it happens I do seriously regret it. I know my post made no mention of regret or guilt but when I made the post I had already apoligized to my Master and he did forgive me for it but I knew the punishment was still coming so my post was more about the punishment part then anything else. My fault for not being clear in my post. It was definetly wrote in haste.

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RE: punishment - 10/14/2006 12:41:31 AM   
ownedgirlie


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ORIGINAL: Sub03

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ORIGINAL: SirLordTrainer
As bad as it sounds, I just chose not to do it. For no other reason then I just didnt want to. A stupid self centered decision I know.


To Me, this is as bad if not worse than the actual infraction. The fact you have no good excuse puts Me in mind that you really dont care in your service to your Master. Bad behavior for a submissive, let alone a ''slave''. I would say you deserve whats coming to you, be it mentally, physically or both. And if you were Mine and such temprement continued you would be dismissed.


***sorry for the double post but trying to answer peoples posts and thought trying to lump it all into one post might get a little confusing**


I agree my behavior was bad and uncalled for. Ill give you that. But I dont agree that I dont care about my service to my Master. I love my Master, I love being his slave and I love doing things for him that make him happy and make him proud of me. Yesterday was not a good example of that however, but im only human and I will mess up at times. I try my best to make those times few and far between because I hate dissapointing my Master. As I said in my last post I do feel extremely guilty for displeasing him and the moment it happens I do seriously regret it. I know my post made no mention of regret or guilt but when I made the post I had already apoligized to my Master and he did forgive me for it but I knew the punishment was still coming so my post was more about the punishment part then anything else. My fault for not being clear in my post. It was definetly wrote in haste.

It is one thing to feel badly about messing up.  But I will chime in with the others here who say if you do not figure out what the crux of the problem is, you will likely repeat it, even if you really really don't want to.    SirLordTrainer makes a strong point.  If you are satisfied with saying "I don't know why I did it, I just did it." and do not make any effort to understand why so you can learn, grow, and fix it, what does that show your Master?  I know all too well how hard it is to dig deep and analyze where trouble comes from, but I believe one must be willing to do the work if one wants to maintain a healthy and valuable bond.

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RE: punishment - 10/14/2006 12:52:09 AM   
becca333


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Status: offline 		This IS your punishment - knowing you did the wrong thing and failed in your service to him.

Whatever he chooses to do is a kindness to you, as it allows you to atone for what you've done.

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