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ShadeDiva -> RE: The Capitalization Conundrum (1/29/2005 3:59:17 PM)
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Hmm let me see if I can clarify myself a tad.
Angel - I'd agree - it *is* up to the person indeed how they type. No one is telling *anyone* to change - especially me.
I find italics in the font CM uses here when it's not bold hard to read - probably due to my eyesight than anything else.
It *is* your choice, and I'm not asking you or anyone else to change - what I am saying is only this:
(note the you here is a general you - not directed at any specific person here on these boards or otherwise)
Communication is a two way street - part of the responsibility on EACH person is to try to make an effort that what they say is clearly understood to those they are saying it to. The other part of the responsibility is for each person to make an effort to understand what the other is saying - and working around the other person's style, limitations, comprehension, and whatever else might be present for both the delivery end and the receiving end.
You make a choice when you communicate or receive what you will do for the other person or people you are communicating with, on how far you will go to see that you are reaching them, and if it compromises you. Whether that compromise is reality or in your mind doesn't really matter I'd imagine. (Not saying it is that way for anyone specific, this is a generalize statement)
If you decide you will only go so far - that's cool. It's the person's choice to make. In text odd things come into play - because eyes vary and sometimes things are visually difficult to process for a thousand different reasons. Verbally the same applies to hearing - a thousand reasons might prevent someone to hear the words you speak. Those with the limitations can either try to find a workaround - or they hope the speaker will make it easier for them - or they simply just are cut out by those circumstances to not be privy to what the other is saying, and then miss out on whatever value the speaker might bring into their life or manner of thinking.
Sometimes shit just works that way. lol.
(end of the general you hehe)
I actually have to use a magnifying glass for your font angel, which I suppose I ought to have said before when I mentioned it - just no one asked, and I don't know why I didn't say it. It's *my* problem, *my* limitation. It's only *your* problem if you'd like me *specifically* to see what you are saying - if not, then my limitations aren't your concern and there would be no valid reason for you to make any sort of effort to work around my (just one single person in allllllll the members of CM that don't have the same limitations) little visual crutch. To be honest the only reason I got my glass out to read the rest of your post was that the un-italized portion combined with the snippage of my post made me realize you were addressing me, and I ought to make that effort to see.
Now if I got off my lazy butt and got a new keyboard where the Ctrl button was working - this wouldn't be an issue for me, but I simply haven't been able too yet. Otherwise all I have to do is hold down the Ctrl key and use the scroll button to make the text enlarge. So this would be where *I* failed in MY part (for whatever reasons - doesn't matter if they are good ones or not, it's still my failing, lol) to correct a communication obstacle.
(back to the general you)
But really I see this a lot online, and always have, and I don't expect it to ever change. People throw their stuff out and say fuck it if you don't get it, it's like their concept of communication is I put it out and it's up to you to get it, don't expect me to make it easier for you to grok me. I've never understood that - no judgment there, just I have never understood why people feel communication shouldn't require effort on BOTH parts. I have no issue myself with modulating myself visually for those that have issues - hell I've have made my sites fonts bigger for a single person that reported to me that they liked a certain site but simply were unable to read it - one person out of thousands. Some would have told her tough luck, or to use the Ctrl key, hell it's just ONE person, no one else cares why the fuck should *I* change ... but it was such a *small* thing for me to do for her sake, and it made her feel good, and it helped her. It was my choice to make that decision, and I understand when others might not do the same thing for a single person out of a million or whatever - but after seeing her reaction, I think if it doesn't negatively affect the masses, why the hell not - I'll do it again lol.
I don't expect the masses to agree with me, I am *always* the odd duck it seems in most shit. I don't expect people to choose to make things easier, because in all reality humans don't like to do that unless their is something in it for them that they can see. Some folks get off on being cryptic or making it purposefully difficult to understand them (not you angel) - they do it on purpose with the intent on getting a negative reaction and enjoy people struggling trying to understand what it is they are saying, they are looking for this odd sort of shock effect which they usually giggle about and it somehow feeds something in their psyche. THAT I really don't understand. Why deliberately make it harder? They enjoy it, so that is why, but it escapes me why they do.
But in regard to words being flat - I dunno I have SUCH a love affair with the written word, that it isn't the visual *style* of the words that breath life and soul into the text (and I'm a freaking artist - you'd imagine that the visual style would have a LOT more importance to me in writing, it's kinda weird that it doesn't, I think LOL), but the words and the way they are arranged (not visually but structurally. I realize that others aren't geared the same way - I *am* a weirdo after all LOL. But for me, it's what you say and how you say it that holds the soul, the aliveness, the character of the person, not how you dress it up. But then I am forever one to hate the masks we use to present ourselves anyway, I guess in some fashion, maybe I see the visual style as a type of mask.
Hmm. I'll need to think about that - never thought of that before. Cool! I think I just saw a piece of my mindset I'd never noticed before thanks!
I dunno. I *do* really love what you say angel, and my comment on it being hard for me to read wasn't a criticism, or wasn't *meant* to be - it simply is a fact for me at this time and has been since you have been posting. And it is MY limitation as a human to for some reason, when I see a single block of text, without punctuation, or weirdly capped words and lower case words, or odd fonts, or incomplete words, it is MY limitation when my brain wants to immediately dismiss it and my eyes run over it without actually reading the words in there. It is also *my* choice - bad or good - to not take the time to sit down, and force myself to read it just in case there is something in all of it that might be something I will take away from their communication and be glad I did.
Just as it is their choice to present their thoughts in that manner that will limit the amount of folks (either in the masses or singularly) that will sit down and not skin over it and take the time and effort to pick at it until they comprehend what the other is saying. And I am SURE that some folks find reading ME particularly difficult for a variety of reasons as well - gods know I am not perfect in how I communicate! (though I'd sure love to hear what it is that folks find hard in my writing style as then I could see if it is something I could or would address)
When I say it is a two way street - I mean it, cuz it *is*. I hold as much fault as the writer on those things. *I* don't shy away from that fault - but I see a lot of writers and readers that seem to. <shrug> It's not going to change, nor do I expect it to.
It simply is.
Gee I wonder if any of that makes ANY sense to someone else? LOL.
~ShadeDiva
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