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Synaesthesia and BDSM - 1/23/2005 3:09:21 PM

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Greetings to all...

I am writing to see if there are any other synthaesic BDSMer's here at all... be they Top/bottom/Dominants/Swich/slave/subs...etc....(pants...catching breath)

If you are, how does it effect you in your life?

How does it effect you during play? Does it overwhelm or enhance the experience?

I would appriciate the input.

Peace and love

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RE: Synaesthesia and BDSM - 1/23/2005 3:41:46 PM

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synthaesic

Could someone explain what this word means? And yes, I *could* google it, but i'm feeling lazy and watching the football game ~grins~

Lily

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RE: Synaesthesia and BDSM - 1/23/2005 3:45:02 PM

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I second that thought. LOL

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RE: Synaesthesia and BDSM - 1/23/2005 3:52:33 PM

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yikes... forgive me m'Lady Lily...

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Synaesthesia is a joining together of sensations that are normally experienced separately. Some synaesthetes experience colours when they hear or read words, whilst others may experience tastes, smells, shapes or touches in almost any combination. The sensations are automatic and cannot be turned on or off. People are generally born with it and it runs in families. It is not considered to be harmful in any way. Most synaesthetes could not imagine life without these extra sensations! Studying synaesthesia may help us to understand how the brain segregates and integrates different sensations and thoughts.

with thanks to UCL Synaesthesia Research Group

Linked Synthaesic Research

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RE: Synaesthesia and BDSM - 1/23/2005 4:59:29 PM

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hiya angel,

i have Synaesthesia. Until 1999, i thought everyone was the same, it wasnt until i went to a Alexander Technique for back trouble that i discovered i had it. i presumed we all experienced things this way. *shrugs*. i now know we dont! that im a bit 'odd'. And i love it. Always have.

How this affects bdsm is no different to how it affects vanilla. Experiencing sensations in colour is how i percieve things. Also the smell component too. Pain to me smells of violets? does that make sense? well it does to me. People have colour too. I see people in colours. My dom for instance is green, outside of play, this turns to red in play. His voice is red, and the red gets brighter with the power exchange. Subspace is brightest coloured space ive ever experienced. Ive never taken lsd, but from what ive read and heard, i bet its something similar to this.

mainly its sensation as colours, and smell.

ive never paid much attention to it until bdsm enhances it so that its really standing out! As i say, i assumed we all perceive this.

ive gotta go shopping, but am very interested to see how others experience this with bdsm.

what i found fascinating, is how do people percieve things who dont have it? i cant imagine a world not filled with colour.

I am partially sighted, i believe that having Synaesthesia assists me with this. My sense of smell is incredible, but how much due to the partial sightedness and how much due to Synaesthesia, is something i guess ill never know.

My brother has it, but 2 other siblings dont.

i shall look forward to reading this thread, thankyou for bringing it up. Its so rare, ive never ever met another with it.

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RE: Synaesthesia and BDSM - 1/23/2005 6:08:43 PM

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I've never heard of this before, very interesting.

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RE: Synaesthesia and BDSM - 1/24/2005 2:18:53 AM

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Thanks for replying pandora... and your right, it is a rare condition. I was interested how rare it was in the Ls though.

I am synthaesic, and like yourself, didnt realise I was and thought that everyone was the same until a few years ago.

My syntheasia is based mainly around sound. I see words as colours and sounds as colours and shapes. I can also taste feelings - like pain, pleasure ecstacy etc. Lust tastes like coffee... and when I serve it tastes incredibly sweet like sugar canes. Its funny you say that pain 'smells' like violets though, because I 'see' that as purple! Shape and colour is the biggest part of the whole experience though. I try to paint what I 'see' and that forms a big part of my artwork.

I agree that subspace is the most amazing colour I have 'seen'... Its the one thing I have never been able to put down on paper.

I do not have any siblings, and no One in my family have noticed or admitted they are synthaesic. I too, wonder how people get by without it. Its never scared or frightened me, because its something I have always known. The only fear I have is that I would lose it... but I have never seen or read anything about such a problem.

Its really interesting reading the posts here for me though... I dont know about pandora(maybe you could answer again????)... but I can see the colours in peoples writing and in specific words... now that I find fascinating. Its like visualizing people in colour by perceiving their writings.

Love and blessings

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RE: Synaesthesia and BDSM - 1/24/2005 8:29:41 AM

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This is fascinating. How lovely.....

Thank you for bringing it to my attention. Now i must read more about synaesthesia.

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RE: Synaesthesia and BDSM - 1/24/2005 2:04:38 PM

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I can also taste feelings - like pain, pleasure ecstacy etc. Lust tastes like coffee... and when I serve it tastes incredibly sweet like sugar canes.

WOW i find that fascinating. What does pain taste like? Maybe it would help weight loss if when i serve it tasted sweet and satisfied my sweet tooth.

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RE: Synaesthesia and BDSM - 1/24/2005 3:42:42 PM

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quote:

Its really interesting reading the posts here for me though... I dont know about pandora(maybe you could answer again????)... but I can see the colours in peoples writing and in specific words... now that I find fascinating. Its like visualizing people in colour by perceiving their writings.

What color am I?

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RE: Synaesthesia and BDSM - 1/24/2005 8:38:52 PM

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synthaesic BDSMer's

What in the world ISor ARE " synthaesic BDSMer's"
Surely a new one on me but I thrive on new things.
XOXOXO
claire

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RE: Synaesthesia and BDSM - 1/24/2005 8:46:01 PM

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Pain to me smells of violets? does that make sense? well it does to me. People have colour too. I see people in colours. My dom for instance is green, outside of play, this turns to red in play. His voice is red, and the red gets brighter with the power exchange. Subspace is brightest coloured space ive ever experienced. Ive never taken lsd, but from what ive read and heard, i bet its something similar to this

OMG you are very BLESSED. How would I know that pain smells like violets. The seeing folks in color is similar to seeing their auras and I can do that with some folks at different times. I sense sadists energy as bright and sharp and cold and as I feed or their energy and they absorb my pain they get brighter and sharper and colder in their feel to me.
Are they any writings or research I could access on this and I wonder if you are an empath if you could train yourself to sense things in the same way you do.
Please post any areas I could go to research this lovely condition.
XOXOXO
claire

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RE: Synaesthesia and BDSM - 1/25/2005 2:17:50 AM

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What color am I?

I am not sure if I would say 'you' were a colour... but your name is a colour.

when I read the word 'sub4hire' it is a mixture of what I would describe a 'sea-blue'. Like a tiedye effect... with a light blue/turquoise at the top... working down to a deeper colour close to the bottom... interestingly though the word 'Gloria' is also blue... only alot brighter and a solid block of colour.

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RE: Synaesthesia and BDSM - 1/25/2005 2:24:39 AM

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Are they any writings or research I could access on this and I wonder if you are an empath if you could train yourself to sense things in the same way you do.

Synaesthesia Research Centre website

Museums of the Mind

UCL Synaesthesia Research Group

UK Synaesthesia Association

I hope these are useful. I wouldnt say that 'Synaesthesia BDSMers' is a technical term... lol... Its just a way I described, as best I could.

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RE: Synaesthesia and BDSM - 1/25/2005 4:43:39 AM

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Thousands of receptors
for touch work together
to help provide the brain
with information about
the outside world.
Sometimes, a touch is
not desired, and is
identified by specialized
receptors as a source
of pain. Regardless of
whether a touch is good
or bad, a signal travels
from sensors in the skin
through nerves to the
spinal cord and the brain,
where it is decoded and
interpreted.

To understand just how
sensations are experienced
and interpreted an unusual
type of sensation called
synaesthesia (a condition
in which a person interprets
a signal from one of the senses
with another sense entirely.)
Synaesthetics may "hear" colors,
"feel" tastes, or "see" sounds.
This is also used in edgeplay
and what can occur naturally in
some persons can be artifically
simulated in others and sceneing
and play for the experianced
synaesthetic controller. Think of
a babbling waterfall and what color
do you see? What taste do you
think of? What sounds do you
hear? What does your skin feel?
senses play a very big part of
our bodys life as well as our
minds and anything that the
mind uses can be altered by
the trained person to acheive
the desired end of taste, feel,
sight, or sounds just as words
written and their application
can give a person real feelings
of say happiness or sadness,
chills or thrills or a melodious
thought. For example read the
word "Lemons" and most can
savor its taste with in their
mouths and pucker. The person
whom has synaesthesia feels
and sences things differently
then the majority HOWEVER
just like the person whom is
color blind or the person whom
has no taste buds at the end of
their tongue it is a "gift" that the
mind simply learns to use differently
to acheive the same end in the
protection of the body and
enjoyed or even not noticed
as being anything different untill
it is brought to light or used.
Enjoy your gifts, those whom
have synaesthesia..........JMO

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RE: Synaesthesia and BDSM - 1/26/2005 3:06:37 PM

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im aware Synaesthesia aids me immensly in life, to overcome the obstacle of being visually impaired.
To have another within a sexual relationship that can harness this power would be awesome MistressDread! Bring it on! (i wish). But as lust for DarkAngel is coffee, mine is chocolate flavoured, but the dark dark good chocolate. So how would you harness it for another.

I realise that you can teach someone to perceive things as completely different to the way the brain initially interpreted something eg. Pain is substituted for pleasure. But at best, that would be reliant on the the teacher being there. Those of us bdsm'rs for instance, do NOT enjoy the pain of wax hair removal and for me, this pain is not violets, but rust flavoured. So the new pathways taught in bdsm, do not crossover to all pain, just those taught in vivo.

Sensations come in smells eg. pain = violets but bad pain i experience as rust taste.

My partners have always been green, but none so bright as my Dom, and the flicker of red, which then glows brighter is a new colour for me. Slightly scary as some of the worst people i have met, have been red! I would say, clinically, most psychopaths are red. i tend to avoid red people, certainly none of my friends are red, most of them being either blue or green. I 'know' instantly if im compatable with someone if they are either blue or green, i know from experience, im likely to enjoy sharing time with this person.
Learning to spell was easier as words come in colours. Like some flash card que for me.

I went to one of those alternative therapy festivals, and attended something on reading aura's. This seemed familiar to me for obvious reasons. I asked the woman giving the talk if she'd heard of Synaesthesia, to which she replied that she had indeed heard of it, that to her, this was someone with a gift in denial? Nothing quite like being biased eh? I do not read aura's, couldnt if i tried, i can tell what colour people are, can even see when they are suffering as something happens to the colour and taste of them, but aura's? i dont think so.

and i have a love of glitter and pink that is pure Synaesthesic abuse lol. when i see glitter or pink, i feel excited. A bit like having your home pharmacopia at your finger tips.
Chrome: i once indulged myself and bought the usual kitchen appliances in chrome. Mirrors and chrome things hurt, not in a good way either, they were all dark purple and gave me a headache and felt dreadful, the new kitchen lasted a month! I just couldnt take it any longer.

and green lazer lights that you may find at a club for instance, standing inside the light of this is orgasmic for me. I can and do monopolise on these triggers i seem to have. But trying to explain this to someone is so difficult. Others see this as a imagination. But it is not something you can either conjour up or make dissappear- it simply is. There is no control, except to say, my home is decorated to indulge my Synaesthesia to the maximum. Mood lighting takes on a whole new meaning for me.

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RE: Synaesthesia and BDSM - 1/26/2005 3:21:55 PM

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quote:

when I read the word 'sub4hire' it is a mixture of what I would describe a 'sea-blue'. Like a tiedye effect... with a light blue/turquoise at the top... working down to a deeper colour close to the bottom... interestingly though the word 'Gloria' is also blue... only alot brighter and a solid block of colour

Odd, I chose the name sub4hire sort of as a joke. I have a similar name I've had for years on the net. Wanted something a bit different. It was just the first thing that came to mind.
Yet, what is odd is that my given name you are also saying is blue. I wonder if somehow if you are blue you are just connected some way?
Yes, I know I'm way off track of the discussion..I just find it a bit odd.

I always would have thought of myself as a red person.

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RE: Synaesthesia and BDSM - 1/26/2005 3:26:18 PM

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and i have a love of glitter and pink that is pure Synaesthesic abuse lol. when i see glitter or pink, i feel excited. A bit like having your home pharmacopia at your finger tips.
Chrome: i once indulged myself and bought the usual kitchen appliances in chrome. Mirrors and chrome things hurt, not in a good way either, they were all dark purple and gave me a headache and felt dreadful, the new kitchen lasted a month! I just couldnt take it any longer.

I have such a draw to glitter... it makes me tingle inside... the touch...the smell... I see colours and have immense feelings. Just 'seeing' the word written here made my heart leap and I can 'see' it moving in front of me. Its like its jumping from the screen.

Silver has an amazing effect on me in a different way. I find them very attractive and become increasingly sexual to these colours. The smell and taste drive me over the edge. If I am touched by a hand wearing silver rings... I just have a terrible time in controling myself. Thats where Master steps in of course!

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and green lazer lights that you may find at a club for instance, standing inside the light of this is orgasmic for me. I can and do monopolise on these triggers i seem to have. But trying to explain this to someone is so difficult. Others see this as a imagination. But it is not something you can either conjour up or make dissappear- it simply is. There is no control, except to say, my home is decorated to indulge my Synaesthesia to the maximum. Mood lighting takes on a whole new meaning for me.

I agree with the lazer lights... green and those white flashing stobe lights. If I am listening to music, I can 'feel it'... and Master uses it as a 'Toy' in a way. Orgasms without touch, purely to music is commenplace.

Another implement used is a plasma Globe... The taste of the pink&purples and the light is just impossible to relate to a non synaesthesic.

I totally agree that it isnt 'just imagination'... I can have a vivid imagination...but it pales into insignificance to synaesthesia. I cannot just 'shut it off' like my imagination. Its always there... like another sense, that I would be mortified in losing.

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RE: Synaesthesia and BDSM - 1/26/2005 3:37:00 PM

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I always would have thought of myself as a red person.

Something I have noticed is that when I 'see ' a word or 'taste' a colour or word that they are rarely similar to what mind perception may see them.

'Good' Pain may taste like violets to pandora... and be purple when i 'see' the word, but to me, it tastes of cinnamon.

I wouldn't personally suggest that synaesthesia is like reading auras or peoples personalities... but traits, maybe.

Why do you feel 'red' as a person?!

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RE: Synaesthesia and BDSM - 1/26/2005 3:40:59 PM

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Why do you feel 'red' as a person

Well, I've always been the one to take chances. Whether safe or not, I'm the one. I'm usually always the one who will go to greater steps than other's. Humiliation really isn't part of my vocabulary. I can bring most anyone up when they are down.
Red=outgoing.

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