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Sub03 -> RE: Am I handling this properly? (10/14/2006 10:57:40 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Focus50 I loathe messy conspiracies but I think this is quite simple to unscramble. In this age of technology it's easy to believe you're being hacked by an outsider but I wonder just how many have such resources and capability, esp for merely sabotaging a personal relationship. So I'm definitely thinking "smaller"; that your enemy is not some faceless stranger/computer-geek/dark lord of mischief etc but is r/l and resides within your close circle.... I'll wager an even hundred that the perpetrator is absolutely one of those you both care about and even believe she cares about you! At the very least, you should be absolutely sure your personal computer is just that - personal. Awww hell, I'll spell it out - his prime is cleaning house and protecting her own! Really, it all started coincidentally when you were about to move in with them?? Just like any good detective, I abhor that word "coincidence" and woe betide my sub if she ever dared to explain something away as "coincidence". Sure, it happens, but she'll get a thorough grilling before I believe it. And then there's kismet - of fate doing you a favour! Let's see, there's you and him + his lady + "his other girls" ta boot???? Assuming he had 3 or 4 separate dicks (one for each of you to service), he still can't allocate the 100% committment to each of you that he undoubtedly expects from all in return! Bet another hundred his "lady" also knows that. So she's in survival mode and getting rid of the competition while hoping he'll do his part and get past puberty one day. The greater relationship (ie, all of you) is a massive train wreck looking to happen somewhere soon and you've received an admittedly hurtful warning to get out now. Or keep watching for more girls overboard, esp any about to move in. The "lady" has claws.... Focus. I have to second this

DomTrainer1 -> RE: Am I handling this properly? (10/14/2006 11:15:26 AM)
If it is as you say, then maybe you should move on. There is no sence in getting into a no win situation. Look for a Master who would stand by you and protect you in all situations

shadevarr -> RE: Am I handling this properly? (10/14/2006 11:44:46 AM)
Has the Master checked all the systems within his household? Even if his lady is ok with you being there, one of his other girls may not be and jealousy can become quite petty, just like this. I suggest stepping away from this Master, he either can't control all the girls he has right now or he enjoys drama like this. Either is not a healthy place for you.

Focus50 -> RE: Am I handling this properly? (10/14/2006 2:53:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: raavyn Honestly, i thought all of these thoughts too, but not for long. It just doesn't make sense, when she KNOWS for a fact that she is and always will be His number one, and i was only coming on as a 'Beta'. How could anyone be that insecure with a wonderful Master like hers? I have checked my computer for all manner of spyware, grayware and hacks ... my system is clean. I don't know who has done this, but whoever it is has done a great job and should work for the government, lol ... they ruined my life and made me miserable without even a trace of their own identity. For cryin' out loud, it makes perfect sense! This isn't some logical or evolved sense of insecurity but is primal and instinctive. I imagine she went along with his wishes to please him but it all changed once the competition was about to become part of their everyday life. You actually think it more likely there's some high tech, covert black op's at work here? Just to screw you around? You watch wayyy too much tv, women have been protecting their relationships since Eve met Adam! Focus.

Daddysredhead -> RE: Am I handling this properly? (10/14/2006 3:05:38 PM)
RUN!!! [&:] Not as easy as that, but it sounds like a toxic situation that you are better off without... wait for your emotions to heal and start afresh.

swtnsparkling -> RE: Am I handling this properly? (10/14/2006 3:26:08 PM)
I'd bet a 100 if his ladys PC could be checked throughly there would be evidence she was behind this whole thing.

ChaOz -> RE: Am I handling this properly? (10/14/2006 6:10:28 PM)
Nah, my money is on masters PC being hacked. Would be a lot easier to control from the bottom then and would explain why her system is clean. It would also make this scam a lot easier, if someone got into his logs. Just because you'd be at the bottom of the food chain doesnt mean others want you to be around, especially if masters time is already limited. A relationship of this sort forms a powerful connection and dependancy on a person, which could result in something messy if there's too many people and master is in it for the wrong reasons, they dont feel secure so they lash out. You do need more then a virus scanner though, and I doubt anyone from your work did this, it is illegal.

raavyn -> RE: Am I handling this properly? (10/14/2006 7:35:20 PM)
I did the one thing i could think of to end the problem .. i removed myself from the equation. I don't know if this makes me a coward or not, but i do know that this situation will end this way and Daddy can be happy again, like before this person started their sh .. er .. crap. As Daddysredhead said ... i will just have to give my emotions time to heal, then decide if i want to try again. Thank you all for your advice and comments. Maybe the fact that none of the 'family' cared enough to try to help as you have should have told me something.

ladyhawk40 -> RE: Am I handling this properly? (10/21/2006 5:12:30 AM)
The "Lady" in question is me and I did not send messages. I hardly get on my computer because I have kids that use it all the time and I have a daughter who ties my time up with her issues plus an elderly father I take care, I was also the one that suggested Raavyn move in with us when she moved to our part of the world. I have let my Master handle most all of this. He is better suited for it and my emotions couldn't handle the drama . When it first happened I did talk to Raavyn about it and told her I believed her. Once again there are some hidden issues as usual that I am not at liberty to share about another person but Master made some suggestions connected with those issues. He was adamantly told there was no way possible. He never said he did not believe her, he was looking for answers as well. We hate it that she felt the need to say goodbye and turn away. She did that with the last messages sent to me and yes they hurt but I talked them over with Master because they were comments made by him and just part of the conversation at that according to him, Masters are human, too and have, feelings too. He reacted to the first "Goodbye" and the 360 blog that was posted pertaining to with hurt. He will not beg for anyone to stay with him including myself. He made that clear in the beginning of our relationship. I could tell his walls went up with the "Goodbye" message but he would still keep chatting and try working through to find out who was behind all of it. I have talked enough, I thought I would share some of the other parts to this. I still care about Raavyn more that she realizes.

ladyhawk40 -> RE: Am I handling this properly? (10/21/2006 5:20:32 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sub03 quote: ORIGINAL: Focus50 I loathe messy conspiracies but I think this is quite simple to unscramble. In this age of technology it's easy to believe you're being hacked by an outsider but I wonder just how many have such resources and capability, esp for merely sabotaging a personal relationship. So I'm definitely thinking "smaller"; that your enemy is not some faceless stranger/computer-geek/dark lord of mischief etc but is r/l and resides within your close circle.... I'll wager an even hundred that the perpetrator is absolutely one of those you both care about and even believe she cares about you! At the very least, you should be absolutely sure your personal computer is just that - personal. Awww hell, I'll spell it out - his prime is cleaning house and protecting her own! Really, it all started coincidentally when you were about to move in with them?? Just like any good detective, I abhor that word "coincidence" and woe betide my sub if she ever dared to explain something away as "coincidence". Sure, it happens, but she'll get a thorough grilling before I believe it. And then there's kismet - of fate doing you a favour! Let's see, there's you and him + his lady + "his other girls" ta boot???? Assuming he had 3 or 4 separate dicks (one for each of you to service), he still can't allocate the 100% committment to each of you that he undoubtedly expects from all in return! Bet another hundred his "lady" also knows that. So she's in survival mode and getting rid of the competition while hoping he'll do his part and get past puberty one day. The greater relationship (ie, all of you) is a massive train wreck looking to happen somewhere soon and you've received an admittedly hurtful warning to get out now. Or keep watching for more girls overboard, esp any about to move in. The "lady" has claws.... Focus. I have to second this There was also a "Man" in Raavyn's life that she shared a computer with and Masters 360 profile is right next to his one of her profile. Men do get jealous, too. My ex was bad about going behind me on my computer when we were together. In fact , after the divorce somehow he got into some of my information and quoted word for word some things I had written to someone else about a person I was meeting after our divorce was final. I did not think he knew that much about computers, he never go on ours without help. But I learned anything is possible at that moment. The messages also started before she finally said as soon as some other things were taken care, that she would be coming down her. Although she has been saying she was coming for a couple of months now. Noone is at the bottom of the chain in my eyes. As far as , other girls are concerned , one lives a few hundred miles from us and the other is like a daughter to him and lives about 1 1/2 away and comes to see us almost every weekend, we are the only family she has now since her mother passed. I wish Raavyn had told ya'll the other issues on her part that are involved here. Some of the answers would not be so one-sided but you can only make suggests from what is written , right?

michaelGA2 -> RE: Am I handling this properly? (10/21/2006 5:28:45 AM)
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Areflectionofyou -> RE: Am I handling this properly? (10/21/2006 5:40:22 AM)
Get a Aim account and only contact them through aim...

Morrigel -> RE: Am I handling this properly? (10/21/2006 6:31:27 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: raavyn Now, for some reason, someone is sending hurtful and mean messages to Him, His lady, and some of His other girls. I dealt with this for a while, trying to convince them that it wasn't me ... until this person sent a VERY hurtful message to His lady. Severing the relationships is probably the best idea, because to be honest the most likely culprit is actually your master, your mistress, or one of the other girls. I would suggest it's one of the other girls or the mistress most likely--some woman in that household who has decided that enough is enough, she doesn't feel like sharing her Master with yet another slave. Either that, or the culprit is someone with whom you are involved outside the household, who has easy and constant access to your chat logs, and who is intimate with your affairs and the relationships inside that house to know how to expertly target those people. Sorry to have to say this. I realize it's a lot more pleasant to believe that random evil people would persecute you, but this is one of those horror movies where someone has to tell you, "The calls are coming from inside the house." Honestly, no one else would know enough about you, your D/S situation and the relationships in your master's household to pull a stunt like this. It's an inside job--your master needs to clean house, and until he does, no new sub is going to be safe. --M P.S. Of course, this is all presuming that you aren't actually a liar who DID send the evil messages and is here on CM to create a "paper trail" to prove her innocence. ;) Nasty little D/S politics can get sooooo complicated.

Ava82 -> RE: Am I handling this properly? (10/21/2006 7:27:27 AM)
An easy way to prevent this in the future is if you're using Windows XP, create different accounts for everyone on the computer and password protect them. Have your computer log you off if you wander away. Do not save messages in Yahoo IM, copy and paste them into a Microsoft Word document and password protect that as well. I can only give you computer advice....the rest is up to you.

Arpig -> RE: Am I handling this properly? (10/21/2006 8:01:55 AM)
quote: P.S. Of course, this is all presuming that you aren't actually a liar who DID send the evil messages and is here on CM to create a "paper trail" to prove her innocence. ;) Nasty little D/S politics can get sooooo complicated. I do so love your blunt ways sometimes Morrigel [:D][:D]

FangsNfeet -> RE: Am I handling this properly? (10/21/2006 10:28:21 AM)
I think this is a mind game and you're a toy for the whole group.

ladyhawk40 -> RE: Am I handling this properly? (10/21/2006 3:13:46 PM)
She was not a toy, she is a real good friend. That I happen to care a lot about. I want answers as much as she does. I was hurt, too. The conversation and comment sent to me was taken way out of context and twisted. I got an idea of who could have done it, they were already playing some games. But it wasn't one of us. The only thought I can not figure is .why. It has me baffled.

Morrigel -> RE: Am I handling this properly? (10/21/2006 7:16:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Arpig I do so love your blunt ways sometimes Morrigel [:D][:D] Aren't I horrible? [:-] --M

FangsNfeet -> RE: Am I handling this properly? (10/21/2006 9:45:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ladyhawk40 She was not a toy, she is a real good friend. That I happen to care a lot about. I want answers as much as she does. I was hurt, too. The conversation and comment sent to me was taken way out of context and twisted. I got an idea of who could have done it, they were already playing some games. But it wasn't one of us. The only thought I can not figure is .why. It has me baffled. Excuse me for not being in the group and knowing the entire story. I can only work with what is given. Anyhow, someone or a select few is out to have some twisted fun. There is no denying it. My advice for your friend is to stick to her guns and fight to keep her happiness. She can't let this pot hole ruin the parade.

nighthawk3569 -> RE: Am I handling this properly? (10/22/2006 9:51:34 PM)
"The calls are coming from inside the house." Honestly, no one else would know enough about you, your D/S situation and the relationships in your master's household to pull a stunt like this. You're much closer than you'll ever know, Morrigel...but it's not the Masters' household they are coming from. There's been one fact omitted from all this...a very important fact...one that, if known, would put a very different slant on the whole thing. This fact is known to the OP. However, even though it has cost me a valuable slave...one I care deeply for...I support her in keeping silent about this fact. I request that this thread be put to rest. Thanks, *'hawk*

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