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Impersonal slavery - 1/25/2005 11:09:55 AM   
KingofTrio


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Status: offline 		Curious about this:
How many slaves would be interested in an inpersonal slavery type situation, where all you were to be or do was something simple such as drive a car, or keep a house. Nothing at all like the boyfriend/girlfriend type M/s most are looking for, more like being the employee of a very strict boss who also happens to own you completely. Where you live, all of your free time, what you do with your pay, everything.
I figure most slaves here would pass this up, but wonder if any would go for it. Let's clarify the hypothetical situation a little more...
For three years, you can be owned by a Master who will use you in his service. You will not be a lover or a friend, and may not even have any sexual contact at all with this Master, but he may wish to use you once in a while this way in the three years you are his. Your duty is to drive, or cook, or be an assistant, or weed the garden, whatever you are told. You will live where you are placed, do your job, and your only friendly contact will be with other slaves who are also in the service to this Master. If you do your job well you may be asked to stay on, or not. All your pay earned during this time will be presented to you at the end of your service, but you will know how much you are earning and have proof of your account status as you go, no money worries during service. No one but other slaves of the Master knows you are a slave, and you can not under any circumstances speak about this to anyone who is not another slave. The house where you live is filled with other slaves, and he puts different combinations of people in the bedrooms, knowing they are under orders to satisfy each other at night.

Anyway, this is the hypothetical situation. Would you go for it? Why? Would you pass? Why?

Thanks to those who choose to play along, looking forward to reading the responses.

King
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RE: Impersonal slavery - 1/25/2005 12:28:10 PM   
panthergoddess


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So basically this is being a domesitcate slave with no promises of emotional attatchment.

I would do it.

1. The probibility of living in the same home for 3 years and NOT devoping some sort of emotional bond is highly unlikely (be it positive or negative) so it would be interesting to see how that developes over time.
2. There are other slaves in the place going through the same things you are emotionally so there is support there
3. All needs (housing, food, clothing etc) is being taken care of by the Master for the duration of the service. So no spending money.
4. Building up a nice nest egg for a one lump sum after the service term is over
5. Since sexual contact is not the primary focus prostitution would not be a factor since there are payment arrangements.
6. Variety and safety within a controlled environment (sex with other slaves)
7. Teamwork to build a better environement for all (since everyone would have their designated roles and duties)
8. Level of discression. Since it would be a multiple slave type situation each in charge of s specified duty (chef, chaufeur, maid, etc.) it does not give off the appearance of "slavery"


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RE: Impersonal slavery - 1/25/2005 1:53:56 PM   
liltxsubby


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Status: offline 		i couldn't do it. it's a trait i have that as i serve, learn to do what's expected, i become attached. Serving is emotional and binding to me. After three years i couldn't just walk away, and i'd agonize knowing i'd have to at the end.

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RE: Impersonal slavery - 1/25/2005 2:34:25 PM   
perverseangelic


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Status: offline 		It sounds great in theory to me.

I would hate it in practice. I need to develop emotional connections to individuals, especially the individuals I serve.

I have no doubt this would work for a surprising number of individuals though.

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RE: Impersonal slavery - 1/25/2005 3:29:41 PM   
BlkTallFullfig


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Status: offline 		I've had subs offer to be used this way...
To me, it sounds lovely in theory, but
I cannot do it, because I can't live around other humans without having some feeling for/about them (good/bad), and in keeping with the golden rule, assume this person (slave) would eventually develop a feeling one way or another. M

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RE: Impersonal slavery - 1/25/2005 3:34:25 PM   
sub4hire


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Status: offline 		Not sure if I could do it or not. However, no matter what the wife of the Master would definately have to be ok with things first. I personally don't see any other reason for the secrecy myself.

Negotiations would definately take quite the amount of time.

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RE: Impersonal slavery - 1/25/2005 5:52:51 PM   
feline


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quote:

Anyway, this is the hypothetical situation. Would you go for it? Why? Would you pass? Why?



Pass. Because I need (not want) an emotional attachment/bond in order to give that part of myself to someone. But then again, I don't consider myself slave either.

Take care,




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RE: Impersonal slavery - 1/25/2005 6:55:39 PM   
omgirl


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Status: offline 		i couldn't do it. i need the love connection and am not so into domestic service. i have a career i am pursuing.

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RE: Impersonal slavery - 1/25/2005 8:39:52 PM   
ravenna


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Status: offline 		Two or three months ago, when i was lost and ownerless, i would have taken that offer in a heartbeat! i wouldn't have thought twice: Sign me up and ship me, boys. And of course as soon as i got there i would be doing everything i could possibly do to show my new owner how irresistibly fuckable i am, so i would stand a pretty good chance of getting irresistibly fucked in no time. My scheme would be to get promoted from the new backyard & garden toolshed slave, or whatever, to his Number One Pleasure Slave in the blink of an eye... ;)

Seriously, i have served sexually, and served well (i thought), an owner who didn't love me and whom i didn't love, but there HAS to be a lot of sex involved or i would just go crazy (and then you'd just have to sell me), so in your hypothetical case i would probably be in full-on fuck-me-master mode all the time. (Probably not what you bought me for, that garden will really go to seed, but, hey, i'll show you a good time, Master...) And i have to say, for me, being owned by the man i love, a man who loves me, is a million million miles beyond being some stranger's horny, scheming, little yard & garden slave...

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RE: Impersonal slavery - 1/26/2005 10:36:29 AM   
KingofTrio


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Status: offline 		Thanks for playing along. The tally so far is:
1 yes
2 yes in theory, no in real life
1 not sure
4 no

All the no's and no in real life's cite the need for emotional attachments that are inevitable during long term service. I agree that this would be a real factor. I also think that good service plus emotional attachment would equal being asked to stay on, but this wasn't articulated well in my post.

sub4hire asked about the wife knowing about the slaves, and why would there be any need for discretion? In the post, I didn't mention a wife. I would have my fiance help me choose the slaves if this were a real enterprise, but then again, my fiance is my slave, so no problem there. As far as discretion, it isn't solely about cheating, many business people would lose comfortable incomes if S&M became attached to their public persona.

ravenna, you cracked me up! Visions of a slave girl hell-bent to fuck her way to the top of the slave ladder, twitching her butt at the Master while tending the garden. lol Glad to see you have found owners who offer love as well as service.

panthergoddess, you were the most accepting of the situation and enumerated eight reasons why. Thank you for taking the time to do so.

1 out of 8 ....

Thanks again for playing along.

King

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RE: Impersonal slavery - 1/26/2005 11:34:04 AM   
panthergoddess


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RE: Impersonal slavery - 1/26/2005 12:56:04 PM   
ruffnecksbabygir


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Status: offline 		honestly, the only way i'd ever see myself going for something like that is if i have no children, and don't have a good job or anything really going for me, so i'd have nothing to lose at all, in which case i might say, what the hell....but i can't realistically see myself accepting to "serve" someone under those conditions, love is key for me, without those real emotions i can't see happily serving a Master

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RE: Impersonal slavery - 1/26/2005 2:24:55 PM   
TallDarkAndWitty


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quote:

ORIGINAL: KingofTrio

Curious about this:
How many slaves would be interested in an inpersonal slavery type situation, where all you were to be or do was something simple such as drive a car, or keep a house. Nothing at all like the boyfriend/girlfriend type M/s most are looking for, more like being the employee of a very strict boss who also happens to own you completely. Where you live, all of your free time, what you do with your pay, everything.


Funny, but this is precisely the kind of thing I am looking for myself, though I don't think I would start with a three year contract.

My desire in BDSM is in owning, training, and disciplining a person that I consider my property. I do not seek to love and adore my property, just use it with kindness and respect and take care of it much as I would any prized possession.

I am lucky to have found a partner and lover who understands my desires (and, in fact shares many of them), so now I simply seek my slave to fill the role you have quite accurately defined.

I think one point you miss is that this kind of relationship will develop quite a strong emotional bond, even if it isn't a sexual/sensual/romantic one. The emotional connection between boss and employee can get quite strong, the bond between owner and slave (or Master and servant) can truly be off the charts.

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RE: Impersonal slavery - 1/26/2005 10:19:50 PM   
ravenna


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Status: offline 		Kingof Trio,

Thank you for the kind words, and the interesting scenario. i do want to let you know i took the question more seriously than perhaps it sounded; for me being loved AND enslaved is the ultimate, it's just this side of Heaven, but if love were nowhere to be seen on my landscape i really would jump at the kind of offer you describe, i think a lot of slaves would, and i would have just a few months ago. And i think your idea of orchestrating plenty of slave-on-slave sex every night is very wise, in fact it's probably the magic ingredient that would make it work for most sex slaves. (i know there are some who would rather be locked up in chastity belts and orgasm-denied, too, but that's DEFINITELY not me. Good God, save that stuff for punishment!)

And i gotta say, i'm sure i wouldn't be the only horny little garden slave trying to fuck her way to the top, so if you put this plan into action, be prepared to beat us off with a stick! (Oh, wait, that would just make us even hornier... :)

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RE: Impersonal slavery - 1/26/2005 10:40:44 PM   
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RE: Impersonal slavery - 1/27/2005 7:09:39 AM   
RiotGirl


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RE: Impersonal slavery - 1/27/2005 10:16:52 PM   
LdyAuburn


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Status: offline 		There is currently an ad on the personals section of CollarMe which is basically offering this. Live in nanny to children etc. With a few other provisos. By their journal entries they are very suprised that their wants havnt been met. They were offereing a 'small' stipend.
The way that particular ad read it was trying to have a live in that also did sex cheaply
Probable wasnt their intention but that is how it read to me

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RE: Impersonal slavery - 1/27/2005 11:38:02 PM   
NaughtyBoy4U


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Status: offline 		Well, i must admit this was a very interesting topic, and some interesting answers as well. i would have to agree with those who said they would have a hard time not having some sort of feelings and or emotions for their owner. Affection, and love are very important things to me, and i really don't see how anyone can live, or breath without either of them. Don't get me wrong the idea is very interesting, and i am sure i would do it at least once for the challenge if nothing more. i am new in this lifestyle, but this seams very challenging for me, and also like someone else stated.. You cant beat the fat check at the end of your service..


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RE: Impersonal slavery - 1/28/2005 4:20:54 AM   
sterlingsweet


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Status: offline 		I would pass...
But my opinion dosen't really count because I am not slave material,
so just that aspect of bdsm is not of interest to me.
I consider myself a submissive with high switch tendencies, which removes me even another step further.

And last but not least...I need and want to be mutually in love with my Domina, monogamously, and very intricately weave D/s and B/D into our relationship. Not have our relationship exist because of our needs for BDSM dynamics.

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RE: Impersonal slavery - 1/28/2005 9:03:31 AM   
phoenix52


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Status: offline 		Here's another "no" vote... i really do not think i could submit to anyone beside my Master, particularly if there wasn't any love there. i submit to Master because i love him, and i do not see myself putting my own needs aside for someone i don't love. i do not *want* to be sitting on the cold floor as i type this, i am doing it because i love my Master and i submit to him. Sit on the cold floor for an impersonal owner? Hell no!

That is just me, others may feel differently....

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