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WetHotGoddess -> Masturbation, porn, pro dommes and burnout (10/19/2006 6:27:18 PM)

before I begin my rant let me assure you that I love to fuck..I love men... BUT....
 
I have a problem with being a chronic masturbator. I love it.  I think I could become addicted to porn. There is nothing more satisfying than my own self-gratification.  I can please myself and get off better and have very intense orgasms on my own.
 
It made me think about the question of sexual burnout and how we detach sex from relationships. I do not need anyone for sex. For sex, I am perfectly happy with myself, not worrying about anyone but me! I have such intense orgasms, not having to worry about anything- being free to think of anyone/thing and any story.. To be able to think of any person in a sexualy perverted and degrading way, and fuck myself.
Being female I know this may seem odd but I know there are many males who can relate. It is pure selfishness- thinking only of myself and my pleasure. My male friends don’t get it. Why do I not need or want to fuck them, use their cocks?
 
We all get de-sensitized from over-doing certain things. Those who scene or fuck all the time- pro or not- will burn out. Porn is something that has to be replaced and constantly updated and improved or the images lose their effect. After fucking so many cocks I find only I know how to please myself completely. I am burned out on men! LMAO
 
I wonder- are there really people out there who can attach to a person in a sexual way,serve THAT person, and get a more/better/deeper/intense orgasm than they would at their own hand? 
(and- are those people christians who are not allowed to play with their own genetalia?) j/k
 
Should I go to therapy???? Am I weird????? ok I know- I AM weird... shrug.. wondering if anyone can relate..
 
(off I go to masturbate) lol



popeye1250 -> RE: Masturbation, porn, pro dommes and burnout (10/19/2006 6:40:53 PM)

Wethot, no, of course you're not weird!
If that works for (you) then what's wrong with it?
If it gives you pleasure and satisfies you then more power to ya I say.
But, I bet I could give you a more powerful orgasm!



LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Masturbation, porn, pro dommes and burnout (10/19/2006 7:17:25 PM)

I have many different types of sexual experiences in many ways.  I can honestly say that I have sexual experiences and connections with my partner that I can never experience masturbating and I have sexual experiences and connections when masturbating that I can never have with my partner.

So I choose to have both :)



Mavis -> RE: Masturbation, porn, pro dommes and burnout (10/19/2006 7:35:09 PM)

christians are allowed to play with their genitalia.  <grins>  in the classic sense, the ONLY things christians are really not allowed to do is... Not believe in christ.

ok, so back to the topic "at hand"   :: pats self for the funny :::

self-stuff is different!  not better, but different. i wouldn't want a steady diet of all one thing excluding all others, so yeah, i choose both.   One reason women who get freaked on finding out their men masturbate is they assume it's "instead of" being intimate with them.  i opine it's "also" behavior.   additional to what we do with partner, not supplanting it.

How nice and freeing, to not have to worry about a partners pleasure, to just be selfish and it's not at anothers expense, something we rarely get to do.  normal selfishness tends to take from another to fulfil us, but in this one case, it's a total freebie!  yipee.

but then..  how ALSO freeing to share your expressions with another, to feel or see their reactions, to let down the walls and let them see yours..  to hear the lovely word slut.. oh wait..  stop.  i mean... erm..

but then, there is just fun sex for fun sex sake too.  it doesn't have to be a soul-baring experience to enjoy sharing it with another.  i just like all flavors.

but to quote that one Fellow... "But how is this a BDSM topic?"  lol.



subfever -> RE: Masturbation, porn, pro dommes and burnout (10/19/2006 9:42:13 PM)

Hmmm... a lot of this sounds awfully familiar...

Hey, waaait a minute... are you sure you're not my ex-wife posing as a Domme from Cocoa Beach?



LadySeraphina -> RE: Masturbation, porn, pro dommes and burnout (10/19/2006 9:57:10 PM)

I have a lot of sex. In the past, I've had numerous relationships, one-night stands, and open relationships. My houseboy and I are intimate on a very regular basis. That said, I love to masturbate. Even though I have sex anywhere from 3-20 times a week with him, I still masturbate. I love it, and it can be very intense. On the other hand, yes, you can have frequent sex with one partner and have it become richer, better, more pleasurable over time. Sometimes it's more emotional, sometimes it's silly, and sometimes it's just fucking, but underneath it all we love one another, and it keeps getting better.

Umm, where was I going again? Oh yes, to each their own, but you're not weird. Masturbation is wonderful, fun, pleasurable, but partner sex can be too - even for those without religious guilt over masturbating! :D



FirmhandKY -> RE: Masturbation, porn, pro dommes and burnout (10/19/2006 10:15:29 PM)

Fast reply:

Worthy of a deep, thoughtful, analytical reply.

But I'm 5 cups into my favorite wine, so it'll have to wait.

[:D][:D]

FirmKY



SlaveAkasha -> RE: Masturbation, porn, pro dommes and burnout (10/19/2006 10:21:36 PM)

I love both and don't think I could do without either one.  I can give myself great orgasms, but it's not the same as being filled by cock, or being licked by a nice warm tongue.
 
I think I could go a long time without, but the craving for a partner would win out.  It's sort of nice to do it yourself, you can sort of feel out when you want it to build, and when you want to speed up, no one else can really do that for you. 
 
Then again, having someone else do it, and you not know what's coming and getting to concentrate on the sensations is quite nice also. 
 
See, I am totally torn, I am just an orgasm chick, I don't care how I get'em as long as I get'em.
 
Akasha



LadySeraphina -> RE: Masturbation, porn, pro dommes and burnout (10/19/2006 10:24:01 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SlaveAkasha

I love both and don't think I could do without either one. I can give myself great orgasms, but it's not the same as being filled by cock, or being licked by a nice warm tongue.

I think I could go a long time without, but the craving for a partner would win out. It's sort of nice to do it yourself, you can sort of feel out when you want it to build, and when you want to speed up, no one else can really do that for you.

Then again, having someone else do it, and you not know what's coming and getting to concentrate on the sensations is quite nice also.

See, I am totally torn, I am just an orgasm chick, I don't care how I get'em as long as I get'em.

Akasha


I hear you, Akasha. Basically, orgasms rock! Masturbation is fun, but it's like enjoying a game of solitaire versus a few hands of strip poker. Sometimes it's more fun when you play with your friends. ;)



DevilsVendetta -> RE: Masturbation, porn, pro dommes and burnout (10/19/2006 10:42:07 PM)

Personally, masterbation is essential to me, as odd as it sounds, I have a lot of trouble finishing when I'm with a woman. I refer to it as "shy dick syndrome" :) It takes me a fairly long time to finish, and often just dont have the time for 2 hours of sex lol. I am a bit of a nymphomaniac at times where I'm not buried under other stresses in life, so I tend to cut down when I'm getting a fairly steady flow of sex, but on any given dry spell, it's not surprising for me to find myself masterbating 5+ times per day.

I blame being rather on the late side on the losing of the virginity business :P

I don't understand my little buddy down there, I just do my best to keep him happy, so as far as your question goes, as long as your satisfied, who's to say what's "normal"

This is after all a D/s website is it not? I don't think we really fall under "normal" as far as sex goes.







BitaTruble -> RE: Masturbation, porn, pro dommes and burnout (10/19/2006 11:36:13 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: WetHotGoddess

I have a problem with being a chronic masturbator. I love it.  I think I could become addicted to porn.  

I wonder- are there really people out there who can attach to a person in a sexual way,serve THAT person, and get a more/better/deeper/intense orgasm than they would at their own hand?  

 
Should I go to therapy????


::cut for brevity::

Well, you said it's a problem, so therapy is one option you can consider. Is your problem effecting your day to day life? Are you missing work? Over spending to feed your need? Those are some of the things you can consider in deciding what your best course of action may be.

As to the other question, yes, there really are lots of people who can attach, sexually, and serve another person and be just as, if not more, satisfied doing so.


Celeste



shadevarr -> RE: Masturbation, porn, pro dommes and burnout (10/19/2006 11:50:16 PM)

I used to think that I was the best I've ever had but my second sub proven me wrong. Soo many walls broke with one session that I felt like I had walked into a whole new world. Perhaps Wethot you will find someone that will be able to do things to you that your hand only wished it could do, and don't forget to tell those men what they are doing wrong.



WetHotGoddess -> RE: Masturbation, porn, pro dommes and burnout (10/20/2006 6:14:34 AM)

Ok.. I wanna fess up.. I really don't think I am abnormal or that I have a problem.  But I do think that when you do anything ad naseaum-  it does make you detached from relationships. Or I feel it has for me.  This can be sessioning or masturbating or anything but sure, ya get burn out.  I am addicted to my hand.  WHY I have not burned out on masturbation like I have on fucking- I DON'T KNOW- maybe because men are inconsistent with their lovemaking and I am always consistent!  And- it is safe.  No emotional attachments, no disease to worry about, etc.
 
[And before I hurt someone's feelings- (to my slave)-, I love your face between my legs and I love making you hold that toy in your mouth and you please me with your mouth better than any cock has in years.]
 
 

 
  
 
 



WhipTheHip -> RE: Masturbation, porn, pro dommes and burnout (10/20/2006 6:28:24 AM)

Mavis wrote:
>  the ONLY things christians are really not allowed to do is... Not believe in christ.

That is the problem with Christianity.  You can murder, steal, torture, molest children
(as so many priests seem to do).   It is all okay, it is all forgiven so long as you
believe in christ.    On the other hand, people who sacrafice everything to help others,
who sacrafice everything to lessen human pain and suffering will be condemned to
suffer unimanginable torment for Eternity in Hell, if they don't believe in christ.
 
This God of this religion is just one notch above the God who insists on child
sacrafice.  How anybody can believe in such a God is beyond me.




Mavis -> RE: Masturbation, porn, pro dommes and burnout (10/20/2006 7:05:28 AM)

Whip..  not to hijack the thread, but just to clarify..  the assumption is that with that belief, will come adherance to a behavior standard. there are some that would say if you wholly believe, you would be incapable of doing those things.   Just like many Masters say They only need one rule..  and if slave is wholly Theirs, behavior will fall in line with the Masters wishes.   and a slave with a pattern of disobedience is showing thier commitment, correct?  and are usually released and disavowed by the Master.

Back to self-pleasuring talk...   WetHotGoddess.. curious to know if it's different for You if it's done in front of a partner..?

(edited to disclaim:  the religious views are my own, quoting no document or dogma of any group or entity, and i'm sorry for muddling the thread with it.)



WhipTheHip -> RE: Masturbation, porn, pro dommes and burnout (10/20/2006 7:14:13 AM)

The sad fact is people who believe in Christ, murder, torture, steal,
and molest children, and they are okay with their behavior because
they believe God loves them, and forgives all their transgressions,
that all they have to do is believe.



sultryvoice -> RE: Masturbation, porn, pro dommes and burnout (10/20/2006 7:21:10 AM)

As I have not been in a D/s (m/f) relationship, I know what you mean by masterbation is good for your soul. I have been serving a Grand Mistress and learning so much but it doesn't go into sex. I am not one for one nighters. I suppose I am just too old for all those kind of games. Also, I have been quite ill as of late and I can't do much anyway. Self satisfaction has been the only way. Hopefully, I can get back to it very soon. I sure miss the touching.

Being as sex is a large but not always, a part of BDSM, we count on it as part of our "scenes". Of course that's not for everyone..(sheesh, I am trying to cover everyone). Anyway, you all know what I mean. I feel sex is great any way you can get it but the unltimate way is by another partner.



Aubre -> RE: Masturbation, porn, pro dommes and burnout (10/20/2006 9:03:51 AM)

WetHotGoddess,

You could always try one of these and see how long you can hold out:

http://www.williamjoneschastity.com/FEMALEBELTS.html





subsue6 -> RE: Masturbation, porn, pro dommes and burnout (11/16/2006 7:43:50 PM)

I'm like you LadySeraphina. I love to masturbate and do it a lot when I don't have a regular domme to use me. I think early habits imprint you.
I started as a girl in a girls' boarding school. The first time I masturbated as a dare for three older girls. But I enjoyed it so much, that I did it more and more. So if you are an exhibitionist and love to masturbate, you have double the fun.



Hercuckslave -> RE: Masturbation, porn, pro dommes and burnout (11/16/2006 10:06:43 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: WetHotGoddess


I wonder- are there really people out there who can attach to a person in a sexual way,serve THAT person, and get a more/better/deeper/intense orgasm than they would at their own hand? 
(and- are those people christians who are not allowed to play with their own genetalia?) j/k
 


most definitely.  Sex and orgasms with Mistress is beyond a doubt the best I've ever had.  Even now, when we are not together, my fantasy or pornography can't even come close to the level of arousal i get when with her.  not even close.

M's m



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