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truckin2some -> techniques on training (4/27/2004 7:58:24 AM)

Mistress suggested that I ask if anyone has ideas on techniques for training, to gain my total enthusiastic obedience at all times. Different things work for different people, and we know just from reading online that no 2 D/s relationships are exactly alike. That said, any training ideas or suggestions? We will feedback with the ideas that she uses, and also the results.




iwillserveu -> RE: techniques on training (4/27/2004 3:05:17 PM)

chastity. Read up at altarboy
my favorite site

Sorry, that is kind of a fetish of mine




GoddessMarissa -> RE: techniques on training (4/27/2004 4:23:14 PM)

Chastity does work great, I like to keep someone in chastity for a couple weeks. Then make him jack off 5 times a day for the next week, and start the process all over again in whatever sequence I feel. I also like to get a massage everynight before I go to bed. When in public I have all doors opened for me and be addressed as Mam. Training can be done from one extreme to the other.




slaveofKat -> RE: techniques on training (4/28/2004 6:19:25 AM)

I've been opening doors for her a Long Time, guess she started my training early on, right? Her opinion on chastity right now is that it would deny Her the opportunity to have what She wants at all times. Also Her theory is that a chastity device, or something like the Gates of Hell, would actually over time condition me to think that erection = pain, and would prevent erections in the future. I do call her Maam or Mistress at home, but not in public. The extent or intensity of how I'm to be trained hasn't been decided, right now since we're both kinda feeling our way along, things are pretty fluid and change as we go along. I think the further we get, the more things will be set and predictable, right now its a Total learning experience, and has its bumps and smooth spots.[X(]




sirrob -> RE: techniques on training (4/28/2004 8:12:15 AM)

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Her opinion on chastity right now is that it would deny Her the opportunity to have what She wants at all times. Also Her theory is that a chastity device, or something like the Gates of Hell, would actually over time condition me to think that erection = pain, and would prevent erections in the future.


It's all about what works for you both.
I take my submissive out of the CB2000 when I want to use him or play. I take him out when he's sleeping with me. Even though he's locked up, he gets a lot of attention. :) I do control his orgasms. He only comes when I want and sometimes that's a couple of weeks or more.
There is some pain with the device with nocturnal erections but it has never been enough to prevent erections because of it. In fact, he probably just gets harder.

The point of the device is control. My control. Taking away his most intimate function for myself. That he can't even touch himself without me never mind any sexual activity.

Happy exploring :)
Ms Crysta [e]




LadyBeckett -> RE: techniques on training (4/28/2004 11:26:29 AM)

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The point of the device is control. My control. Taking away his most intimate function for myself. That he can't even touch himself without me never mind any sexual activity.


I also keep my subs in chastity. It certainly has not hindered their ability to achieve or maintain an erection in any way. lol In fact I have found it to be quite the opposite. As in the case of Crysta, My subs serve for My pleasure. I remove the cb2000 when I wish to, and they are allowed to orgasm when it pleases Me. Otherwise the chastity device stays on at all times.

Regarding address, this is tailored to what is comfortable for both of you. Blending *vanilla* and lifestyle comfortably and seamlessly. When the D/s relationship is 24/7 that balance is essential. It is more about tone and demonstration than it is about the actual honourifics. One of my subs said something to me last night that is appropriate here so I'll share it:

"It is important that people know how I feel about You but I think it's more important that You know. "

nuff said [;)]




sub4hire -> RE: techniques on training (4/28/2004 2:45:50 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: truckin2some

Mistress suggested that I ask if anyone has ideas on techniques for training, to gain my total enthusiastic obedience at all times. Different things work for different people, and we know just from reading online that no 2 D/s relationships are exactly alike. That said, any training ideas or suggestions? We will feedback with the ideas that she uses, and also the results.


To me the lifestyle is mental. Not all of course we do play. Mostly mental though. So naturally what works with me are mental approaches.

I've read your past responses Truckin. You seem to waver back and forth on your own issues. I tell her I need punishment..so she punishes. Punishment is fierce beatings..on and on.

Well. How about when you need to be punished you get no beating at all? You are forced to do something you dislike. When you do something well you get rewarded with your beating?

It takes a strong mind to truly Dominate someone. Weak minds get topped from the bottom and usually just go with the flow.
Just depends on what you want to be.




iwillserveu -> RE: techniques on training (4/28/2004 5:57:54 PM)

Trust me. When it comes off that "pain" reaction is a thing of the past. The morning wood sucks, however.[:(]

Think long and hsrd before mentioning this. If she starts likes it, the days of masturbating are over. Sounds like a good deal, but wait until you've been teased for a week and bring her to an orgasm every night.

Yes, it is my fetish, but it may not be yours. Read up on it before jumping into a chastity belt, and be careful what you wish for because you might get it.[:)]




slaveofKat -> RE: techniques on training(followup) (5/3/2004 5:46:00 PM)

We said we'd followup with feedback on the ideas and what was/is used. Actually, so far training is evolving into an ongoing process, more of getting used to my role, adopting new attitudes and behavior, learning how really rewarding it is in more than one way, to please my Mistress. I have real boundaries, and Mistress has real expectations, and it's in my best interest to know and remember them. It's starting to become a way of life, although not the main focus of our life. We're learning how to blend our everyday life with our D/s relationship. It's a satisfying way of life, and one that works well for us. We haven't had a single argument, unlike before we started this, and just how far we go, and how involved we get, remains to be seen. I will tell you this, though.......we just received in the mail today our first BDSM purchase.......a Real Riding Crop, made in England, and it was out of the package AT Least 10 seconds before it got some use.....[:)]




Sinergy -> RE: techniques on training(followup) (5/3/2004 7:39:39 PM)

Greetings,

I used to have my long-distance submissive page me with a certain number asking me if she could have an orgasm. Sometimes I would reply back with the code that said yes, other times I would reply back with the code for no.

Sometimes I would bang away at her for hours without letting her climax. Other times I would have her climax even though I was not interested in doing so myself.

It was all good :)

Sinergy




MstrMrW -> RE: techniques on training (5/3/2004 11:34:44 PM)

I've read your past responses Truckin. You seem to waver back and forth on your own issues. I tell her I need punishment..so she punishes. Punishment is fierce beatings..on and on.

Well. How about when you need to be punished you get no beating at all? You are forced to do something you dislike. When you do something well you get rewarded with your beating?


its like the old joke says:
the masochist says "beat me"
the true sadist says "no"




slaveofKat -> RE: techniques on training (5/4/2004 4:23:14 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MstrMrW

I've read your past responses Truckin. You seem to waver back and forth on your own issues. I tell her I need punishment..so she punishes. Punishment is fierce beatings..on and on.

May I respectfully respond.......
Now Our motto is.....Behave or you won't get your spanking...I don't think there is any wavering in our D/s relationship, only some fluctuating and adjusting as we define our roles and what works....after having a vanilla marriage for 3 yrs, this is a new lifestyle for both of us, Neither of us ever living this way in our whole life....I think we're adjusting well, the good part is that we know each other very well, have deep love and commitment for each other, and a firm desire for a true Mistress/slave relationship.
True, I am a "pain slut", and an "attention slut", and Mistress enjoys dishing out some of both, when we play. As far as my behavior goes, I'm finding myself more and more wanting to please Her just "because", and am not feeling the need to act up to get punished. My ass stays pretty red without punishment, and there are other ways She has found to punish me, which I hate, one of which involves being bound and put in the closet and ignored until She sees fit to come and get me.
This is a new way of life, and will be permanent with us. Message boards like this help us to interact with others, get ideas, opinions, share experience, have some laughs, etc. We've made initial contact with the local BDSM organization, and will probably be attending some functions....Mistress is interested in seeing a caning demonstration.




Sinergy -> RE: techniques on training (5/4/2004 7:39:30 AM)

I raised children and trained dogs and trained submissives with a few general rules.

1) Ignore any behavior I dont want to see repeated.
- Want to be played with or sex, dont make me angry.

2) Reward and praise any behavior I want to see repeated.
- For children and dogs this would be treats, attention, etc.
- For submissives this would be treats, attention, beatings, orgasms, sex, etc.

3) Punishments should be something which will discourage the behavior.
- My favorite for almost anybody was to put them to work doing something they
disliked doing until it was done to my satisfaction.
- Denial of things (kids: television, gym class. submissives: play, sex, night out, etc)

But then, I learned a while back that I am the one who is ultimately giving up my power by allowing another to anger me, so this power is only really given to those very close to me, and not to anybody else.

Sinergy




proudsub -> RE: techniques on training (5/4/2004 9:18:58 AM)

quote:

I raised children and trained dogs and trained submissives with a few general rules.

1) Ignore any behavior I dont want to see repeated.
- Want to be played with or sex, dont make me angry.

2) Reward and praise any behavior I want to see repeated.
- For children and dogs this would be treats, attention, etc.
- For submissives this would be treats, attention, beatings, orgasms, sex, etc.

3) Punishments should be something which will discourage the behavior.
- My favorite for almost anybody was to put them to work doing something they
disliked doing until it was done to my satisfaction.
- Denial of things (kids: television, gym class. submissives: play, sex, night out, etc)

But then, I learned a while back that I am the one who is ultimately giving up my power by allowing another to anger me, so this power is only really given to those very close to me, and not to anybody else.

Sinergy



I agree with this. I also believe punishment should never be given in anger or it can turn into abuse.

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Katmistress -> RE: techniques on training (5/4/2004 4:19:11 PM)

These are all great ideas that I am going to work with..I really appreciate everyone sharing their ideas. Thanks for theee suggestions.
I think my slave wanted this so much and for so long that he wanted all he could get to fill that need and end the frustration.
Things are really calming down here and W/we are starting to relax with this new life. It really helps to know we are not alone with what W/we feel.[:)]




haywardboytoy -> RE: techniques on training (5/7/2004 11:34:41 AM)

GoddessMarissa,

your are very wise in your training methods. i love being on the receiving end of that type of training. i enjoy being locked in my cb-2000 while i am at work and required to wear it for 5-20 day without being allowed to cum. i then enjoy being required to masturbate myself frequently throughout the day (taking pictures each time i cum) and being forced to cum a given number of time ( the number increasing each cycle).

i have been known to be required to masturbate myself more than 10 times to completion in a given 8 hours period by one or more Mistress's on-line from time to time.

slave ron




syrynga -> RE: techniques on training (1/4/2006 12:34:07 PM)

Hello all - anybody know what happened to the Altarboy site? I keep getting an Apache Web Server test page when I go there. I this another victim of Homeland Security?




Petruchio -> RE: techniques on training (1/4/2006 3:25:17 PM)

My first suggestion is to place the topic in the appropriate discussion (Ask a Mistress) so it doesn't clog up the message boards.

But you haven't posted much, so ask your D to forgive. (bow)

It's difficult to answer such a general question. My general answer is to find out what your D likes, and expand upon that.




thetammyjo -> RE: techniques on training (1/4/2006 5:55:11 PM)

Clear goals -- verbally and in writing.

Different approaches to achieving said goals -- do it, practice it, read about it, write about it, talk about it.

Immediate feedback when you practice.

Paraphrasing directions or stated goals before beginning a task.

Never, ever as the dominant, have goals or the process for training be more than what you yourself can remember, follow through on, and are comfortable with.





Katmistress -> RE: techniques on training (3/20/2006 2:08:38 AM)

Some times the only way to move forward is to step back. This last couple of years have been interesting and quite the learning experience to me that's for sure.
SlaveofKat actually introduced me to this by saying he wanted to be submissive. As things went on it seemed to me that he actually just wanted to introduce the idea then make sure that nothing I did worked. I wanted to grow into the position of being the dominant one instead of being pushed around into doing things his way and pretending to be in control.
Talk about frustration!
After a while I got the impression that he wanted to pull a switch saying that I was not strong enough to be the dominant one. He would then have to "take over" by default.
That was a big not going to happen because I am not submissive in any way, shape or form to anyone and never have been. I honestly respect those who are truly submissive but I am not one who can submit.
Well, to make a long story short, I am determined that he will submit and like it. This next week is either going to be the make or break and that is the bottom line.
Thanks for all the great advise I do appreciate it. I do read even if it takes me a while to reply.
Kat




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