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RE: Humiliation...for and against. - 1/6/2007 7:37:26 AM

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Humiliation is a hard limit for me.

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RE: Humiliation...for and against. - 1/6/2007 7:51:00 AM

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Other people can selectively inhabit a given moment in a special way quite different from the usual. They can imaginatively inhabit fiction, for instance

This sounds like role-play to me, but I'm not sure that is all of what you are referring to. (And I know I cut-and-pasted a bit referring to your movie-watching analogy, I just couldn't find anything quite so consise after you moved on to talking about humiliation.) You seem to be talking either about role-play or about something bordering very close on it - perhaps not as explicit as "I'll pretend........." but people taking on temporary roles nonetheless, so that anything said "in the moment" is understood as not connected to reality. If you meant something else, please elaborate...?

Well you were getting warm until you said "not connected to reality." What I am talking about is connected to reality (if I'm guessing right about what you mean to say there,) in very deep ways.

I have enjoyed reading everyones views on this thread and especially the discussion here between Noah and yaqeta.
In my experience, humiliation is quite real and yet liberating. When master says I am a nasty little whore/slut/bitch (fill in your own term) it is the truth because at that moment I am doing nasty whore type things for/with him. But it is exhilarating because we are embracing and celebrating that part of me; it does not de-value me in the least because my base nature is a reality. Now, if he called me a frigid prude I might burst into tears of shame.....or laugh, I'm not sure which.

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RE: Humiliation...for and against. - 1/6/2007 9:31:44 AM

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ORIGINAL: catize
When master says I am a nasty little whore/slut/bitch (fill in your own term) it is the truth because at that moment I am doing nasty whore type things for/with him. But it is exhilarating because we are embracing and celebrating that part of me; it does not de-value me in the least because my base nature is a reality. Now, if he called me a frigid prude I might burst into tears of shame.....or laugh, I'm not sure which.

I related to both yours and prop's posts on this. Master may call me a nasty little whore, and it is true, I am - for him only. That is the distinction here. I am a slut - HIS slut. This does not mean promiscuity, or that I'm out whoring around. In fact, no one touches me unless he decides they touch me. I desire no one's touch, either. That hardly makes me a universal whore or slut. However, I am his personal whore and slut - doing anything he wants of me, as nasty or as innocently as his mood prefers. One of the things he values in me is that I will break down all barriers to let my inner beast out for him, and that I have no inhibitions at all when it comes to him.

I love what you said about embracing and celebrating that part of you. And that's really what it is - a part of you; not the whole you.

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RE: Humiliation...for and against. - 1/6/2007 10:10:44 AM

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I love what you said about embracing and celebrating that part of you. And that's really what it is - a part of you; not the whole you.

Yes, exactly! When I wash the dinner dishes I don’t consider myself just a dishwasher. (I am imagining master ‘humiliating’ me with the sobriquet “dishpan-hands”)

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RE: Humiliation...for and against. - 1/6/2007 10:20:01 AM

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Yep, yep. We're speaking the same language. I can be anything (within my own means) he wants me to be at any given time. They are all unique parts of me that make up the greater whole.

The thing about humiliation is that it strips away all the outer layers and exposes the most vulnerable parts of me. Because I trust him immensely, he can go deeper and deeper. The more that is stripped away, the more "raw" and splayed open (emotionally/mentally) I am to him. It becomes very intense and intimate. Not something taken lightly at all, and he did not start out with the tough stuff. I remember when being called "bitch" struck a knife into me. Now it just makes me hot, lol.

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RE: Humiliation...for and against. - 1/6/2007 10:32:14 AM

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MMMMM using the kitty litter box....lol Ok as you can see i am good with humiliation. Master uses forms of it for punishment and also for his enjoyment and mine too. Degradation is a whole other kettle of fish that i hope no one has to endure.
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RE: Humiliation...for and against. - 1/11/2007 11:23:38 PM

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the first time Mistress took me to a restaurant and discussed our relationship openly i was humiliated by the experiene of knowing that others at surrounding tables coud hear our conversation. she openly talked about me as Her slave. whether on purpose to humiliate me or because she didn't care what others thought i don't know. until then our relationship was private. it was excrutiating for me. the memory still is. but i have enjoyed so much pleasure since then i'm glad i didn't run out the restaurant. for me humiliation has been like a lobster pot . I've been pushed in to places where i wouldn't want to go but i'm glad i am where i am now

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RE: Humiliation...for and against. - 1/11/2007 11:25:50 PM

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hey you should be glad your Mistress is open with you, it is always reashuring to see a Master or Mistress being open with the MAster slave relationship, i personally love wearing my collar outdoors

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RE: Humiliation...for and against. - 1/12/2007 4:47:32 AM

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As is evidenced by the broad spectrum of replies here, there are a great many opinions regarding humiliation... each just as valid as the next. Allow me to add one more thought for consideration...

Humiliation for me is an injury... just as something physical such as whipping, it is designed to cause pain. But where bruises and scratches are superficial and heal on their own without any thought or intervention, humiliation's damage is deeper and hidden from view... and healing isn't spontaneous and effortless. Sometimes it's permanent.

It's not something I desire, enjoy, seek, or consent to.

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RE: Humiliation...for and against. - 1/12/2007 10:44:52 PM

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I went to a class on humiliation at a convention. I'm interested in it, but I was a touch afraid that it could leave scars (which it probably well could). But the bunny in the class said that after she had a few hours to process it, it was a cathartic cleansing experience.

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RE: Humiliation...for and against. - 1/13/2007 12:06:04 AM

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Daz, Sir

Interesting that you ask that! " What may be humiliating to one may not be humiliating to others" I am sure you have heard that before. I myself am not for humiliation as it is a limit. I do have my reason for this however I will not mention here.

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RE: Humiliation...for and against. - 1/13/2007 11:46:23 AM

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I have a love/hate relationship with humilation. I don't much care for the way it makes me feel in the moment (though my body often betrays me and disagrees) but I do like the longer term effects it can have. It has a way of softening me and making me more pliable. My owner has and is still using it to break down some long standing barriers of mine. He has also humiliated me as a punishment. It works rather well.

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