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HOw to get past the panic - 10/28/2006 5:24:47 AM

Kalira

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Ok, I was told that my nipples were to be pierced...soon...however, being the way he is, he refuses to tell me when

I don't like needles; I go into a panic of frenzy at just the thought of a needle going in me. I don't like pain; I scream like a baby when he puts nipple clamps on me.

In addition to this, I have pretty much told him that he may have to restrain me to do the nipple piercings; which he is more than ok with lol

. In fact, I think he's looking forward to that if the truth be known.

Anyway, I really WANT to be able to do this without being restrained; and yet, I can not get past the panic that goes through me every time I think about it.

Any suggestions on how to control it? So that I can do this unrestrained?

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RE: HOw to get past the panic - 10/28/2006 5:56:55 AM

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I wish I had an answer for you. I don't have anything pierced on me except my ears, and I hope it stays that way..lol
I 'm sure you will get answers from someone who has been there. Good luck to you.

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RE: HOw to get past the panic - 10/28/2006 6:06:57 AM

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Not the greatest advice, but when I was a kid, I was excessively phobic around dentists

... a doc prescribed valum so I could get my teeth cleaned (before that, it had to be done at a hospital under general anaesthetic). So perhaps you could see about taking something that relaxes you, but doesn't knock you out completely?

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RE: HOw to get past the panic - 10/28/2006 6:19:28 AM

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Not the greatest advice, but when I was a kid, I was excessively phobic around dentists ... a doc prescribed valum so I could get my teeth cleaned (before that, it had to be done at a hospital under general anaesthetic). So perhaps you could see about taking something that relaxes you, but doesn't knock you out completely?

Hmm, we had kind of talked about this, but I really don;t want to take something if I am not 100% sure of how it will affect me. Even OTC meds can affect a person differently at different times.

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RE: HOw to get past the panic - 10/28/2006 6:27:37 AM

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Whatever happened to consensual? If you honestly do not want to do it, and do not consent to it, he can not force you to do it, Dom or not. That is simply ridiculous. I personally do not think the idea here is to somehow force yourself to be able to swallow the issue. Clearly you are not the least bit comfortable with it and simply justify it by saying "he wants it".. So what? If it is ok if I suggest as much, to Me the question would be, if I read between the lines properly, how do you get him to see that his duty as a Dom is to not force it on you, but to understand that the lifestyle is all about consensual, mutually accepted behaviours. Limits are limits, period. Pushing beyond acceptable boundaries yields less than acceptable results.

That would be My take on it anyways.

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RE: HOw to get past the panic - 10/28/2006 7:30:52 AM

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If you also want the piercings, but are simply panicking, thats kind of normal. I'm a damn baby around needles, always have been. I just wanted the piercings more :) Soooo anyway. You can take something like tylenol, or periodically rub orajel over your nipples. Orajel is that stuff you put on teeth when theyre coming in. Has a numbing agent, very handy when you're getting your wisdom teeth. Otherwise, I would reccomend getting to know your piercer. Go to a shop with a clean friendly atmosphere, with recent certification and knowlegable staff. Ask all the questions that pop into your head. Ask the piercer if it would be possible to see him/her do a few piercings. When you're comfortable twith the piercers abilities, you'll probably be much less frightened about them maiming you. Have your master hold your hands and whisper in your ear. The other thing I found that helped, was tell them you don't want to know what they're doing. I always got the most freaked out when they're saying things like "Ok, you're gonna feel a little pinch. Thats a pair of stainless steel forceps, to make the piercing easier and straighter" "Ok, I'm unwrapping the sterile needle. Its a hollow, razor tipped 14gauge." "Alrighty then, don't move now, the piercing is being held open by the needle while I get the jewelery ready." AGH!!! STFU already. *shudder* Be verbal. Tell them you need lots of chatter to keep your mind off it, or that you need them to be quiet so you can focus somewhere else. They've heard it all, I assure you.

As for the non-consentual thing, no piercer in their right mind (read: Any piercer who doesn't want to risk losing their license and possibly getting the shop shut down) will pierce you if, when he/she picks up the needle you begin panicking and screaming/begging them/your master not to do it. Or if you walk into the shop and start crying or flipping out. They will not, I repeat will NOT pierce you if you literally need to be held down so as not to run away. Everyone hates lawsuits. Personally, I've run into piercers and artists who worry when I need someone to hold my hands. If your master wants to do it himself, put your foot down and tell him to fuck off. Ok, perhaps use a bit more tact than that, but tell him that if he wants you to do this, you need a professional to do it. Nipple piercings are fussy as is, don't complicate it by letting some inexperienced sadist play with a needle.

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RE: HOw to get past the panic - 10/28/2006 8:45:04 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kalira

Ok, I was told that my nipples were to be pierced...soon...however, being the way he is, he refuses to tell me when

I don't like needles; I go into a panic of frenzy at just the thought of a needle going in me. I don't like pain; I scream like a baby when he puts nipple clamps on me.

In addition to this, I have pretty much told him that he may have to restrain me to do the nipple piercings; which he is more than ok with lol . In fact, I think he's looking forward to that if the truth be known.

Anyway, I really WANT to be able to do this without being restrained; and yet, I can not get past the panic that goes through me every time I think about it.

Any suggestions on how to control it? So that I can do this unrestrained?

I no knowledge on the ways people get pierced, but I would think that being restrained might not be allowed?

When I got pierced including my nipples for my owners at the time, I was also terrified and had bad feelings for days up until it happen. What helped me was I basically tried let my competitive nature and pride take over my thoughts then fear. I was basically kept thinking to myself that many poeple do this every day so why can't I. That helped me just enough that I was pretty good when it was done to me.

I basically agree with SirKenin if you do not think you can go through with this without being restrained or drugged up then you need to tell that to your Master.

It is one thing to be hesitant and scared it is another to needing some extra help in getting it done.

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RE: HOw to get past the panic - 10/28/2006 9:19:14 AM

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First off, yes, I actually DO want the piercings. I find nipple piercings to be extremely attractive.

I just...get into a panic each time I think about...literally.

edited to add:

the idea of orajel; I like that. I'll have to try it and see if it cuts down on any pain.

< Message edited by Kalira -- 10/28/2006 9:20:45 AM >

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RE: HOw to get past the panic - 10/28/2006 10:01:29 AM

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Topical anisthetic will not really work for you, it might mute the pain, but, really, the pain is only there for a little while.

If you cannot think of the thought without having panic attacks, then you do not need to be doing them. As stated above, if you are panicked, or seem out of it (aka, drunk or high) then no piercer will pierce you.

The only way to reduce the panic is to think about it, and think of coping mechanisms. If you cant think clearly about it, then you cant go through with it. but, if you can get over the panic, and start thinking, hey, this might be nice, I might enjoy the endorphin rush, I will enjoy having the jewlery in me, etc, then you might be able to lessen the panic. Everyone has some apprehension before getting a piercing done, you just have to get down to a normal aprehension level rather than panic.

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RE: HOw to get past the panic - 10/28/2006 11:10:20 AM

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want a Dominant's viewpoint?

Personally, I say the day its planned for (by me, without your knowledge, of course,) I would start the day by giving you a solid full body flogging, followed up (and done throughout) breast bondage. I would then proceed to playfully tug on, twist, pinch, prod, and suckle your nipples until you cannot even feel the nipple so much as the whole throbbing breast. Placing you in a light linen shirt, we would then proceed to the peircing, where an ice cube will make that nipple feel ohh soo good, you won't even feel the needle peirce your skin. (Blindfolds here are a GOOD thing.) before you even know it, wha- La! its done, and you can honestly say afterwards, nope, I didn't feel a thing when I got em peirced.

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RE: HOw to get past the panic - 10/28/2006 12:10:22 PM

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I am like you and scared to death of needles. I wanted the nipples done soooo bad though, and my other piercings, tatts. Sometimes, if you just want it bad enough, you can get through it. I kept thinking of how pretty they would look, and how sexy my lover at the time would think they were. I went by myself (first time for that) and was even shaking while filling out the paperwork. The piercer knew I was scared and nervous, he kept talking to me and things like that. He then called another guy in, that way they would both be done at once (which I liked). The first thing I do is say that I don't want to know anything that's happening, just please do it and I will be fine. They had me lower my shirt, and lay back on the table. The other thing I do for any piercing, is close my eyes, I don't want to see any equipment, needles..none of it. I now know what to expect, the marker marks, the clamp goes on, and they tell you to take a deep breath in, when you do..they do it, both at once, all over, jewerly in. He will clean it up, and you feel a slight sting, and then a slight burn.

They will not allow you to be restrained, and if this is something you want, you have to put your big girl panties (or skirt) on and do it. They are used to people being nervous, but if you keep saying you don't want them and it seems you are being forced, I doubt they will do it. I have never used a numbing agent, and ice only makes it worse for me. If they think you are on anything either, they just won't do it.

No matter how scared you are, just keeping thinking of the after part. That is the great thing about piercings and tatts, when it's over.. you have something to show for it, not like a shot at the Dr. office. You can wear them proudly and show them off to people, and you will be soooooo proud of yourself for doing it. I love mine, and don't regret it at all. I think the only thing I don't like, is how long they take to heal. Your Master needs to be prepared for that part, and not playing with them, and sometimes not doing anything with them for months. I got mine done in late April, and still can't have weights or bondage put on them.

Good luck to you... just keep thinking of those pretty nipples, with those gorgeous rings, and you will be fine. It's over in seconds, and you have them from then on.

Akasha

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RE: HOw to get past the panic - 10/28/2006 1:26:44 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kalira

First off, yes, I actually DO want the piercings. I find nipple piercings to be extremely attractive.

I just...get into a panic each time I think about...literally.

edited to add:

the idea of orajel; I like that. I'll have to try it and see if it cuts down on any pain.

Ok, fair enough. If you really DO want them, that is cool. Try the orajel then... And not to sound like I am pimping the use of narcotics or anything, but you might want to try smoking a bit of weed before you go as well. Or, if that idea does not sit well with you, something that has an equal effect.

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RE: HOw to get past the panic - 10/28/2006 2:03:50 PM

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The pain isnt the problem. It doesnt hurt THAT much. And even if it does, which I know for a fact peircings dont, its so temporary as not to be worth pondering on. The problem is the idea of that pain.
If you want to relax yourself beforehand, you could try what I did. And its going to sound silly, but I took a shot of NyQuil before I got my navel pierced. I have a high tolerance for pain, but having a stranger touch me that much was what was freaking me out. It worked, I was relaxed (and groggy) enough that the percing went off without a hitch.

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RE: HOw to get past the panic - 10/28/2006 2:08:03 PM

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Hmm, yes, I don't think it is so much the idea of the pain per se...I think it's the needle itself that is giving me so many problems. This has been in the makings for almost 7 months, so he gave me plenty of time to accustom myself to the idea of the pain itself.

maybe if I just keep my eyes closed at al times and don't look at what they are doing...maybe that will help. Hmm, its a thought.

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RE: HOw to get past the panic - 10/28/2006 2:18:50 PM

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I totally relate to the needles.. I had to have stitches about a week ago, and they put four needles in My leg. I did not even watch, but I completely freaked out. Needles are definitely one of My hard limits. The vampires that draw blood out of Me on a regular basis have an equally hard time with Me...

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RE: HOw to get past the panic - 10/28/2006 3:49:18 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: CreoleCook

want a Dominant's viewpoint?

Personally, I say the day its planned for (by me, without your knowledge, of course,)
CC

Reads this and gets a little worried... ummm Sir? is there something i should know about?

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RE: HOw to get past the panic - 10/28/2006 6:34:36 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: subinside

quote:

ORIGINAL: CreoleCook

want a Dominant's viewpoint?

Personally, I say the day its planned for (by me, without your knowledge, of course,)
CC

Reads this and gets a little worried... ummm Sir? is there something i should know about?

LMAO
/looks at the ceiling, then the floor and starts to whistle

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RE: HOw to get past the panic - 10/29/2006 8:59:53 AM

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ORIGINAL: Kalira

/looks at the ceiling, then the floor and starts to whistle

~flails~ ummm ~looks at her nipples~ ummm... ummm.. no thank you? ~ducks~

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RE: HOw to get past the panic - 10/29/2006 9:07:06 AM

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Recognizing the root of your reactions, panic included is a skill which requires, like any skill, practice.

Once you can recognize your reactions, you can make CHOICES as to how you respond to them.

Standard Stress Reduction and Relaxation program.

Check out Kabat-Zinn's work with UMass Medical Center, or drop me a message in email, and I'll give you some pointers.

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