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Lordandmaster -> RE: another sicko making us look bad (11/16/2006 7:14:29 PM)
I was teasin' ya.

mnottertail -> RE: another sicko making us look bad (11/16/2006 7:17:08 PM)
Having passed reading the thread in its entirety, I will just check in and out..........

LaTigresse -> RE: another sicko making us look bad (11/17/2006 8:29:20 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster I was teasin' ya. I kinda thought so. I probably just didn't answer in a way that reflected that. Plus the centre comment was one-o-those double entendre thingama jobbies. My warped bad sense of humour.

gooddogbenji -> RE: another sicko making us look bad (11/17/2006 8:50:53 AM)
Not sure if I'm actually the first one to say this, but this guy went by Lord and Master. LaM, weren't you just recently saying you're moving into a smaller 1 bedroom apartment in an active neighbourhood? Yours, benji

Morrigel -> RE: another sicko making us look bad (11/17/2006 2:37:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: gooddogbenji Not sure if I'm actually the first one to say this, but this guy went by Lord and Master. Uh...yeah. I decided to pass on that one. [;)] --M

Noah -> RE: another sicko making us look bad (11/17/2006 3:04:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Morrigel Yep. Sorry, but I think you are. Everyone who reads this story and is not deeply indoctrinated into the lifestyle is going to think of this guy and his brutality every time they hear the word "master" or see/hear of a woman being tied up. And is everyone who reads this thread going to think of chicken little every time they see a certain avatar? When I hear of a maniac dental assistant I don't keep her face ever before me thenceforth whenever someone says "brush" or "floss." I got fifty buck here that says the sky won't fall before morning, and I've never even been "deeply indoctrinated into the lifestyle". Who's in?

Lordandmaster -> RE: another sicko making us look bad (11/17/2006 3:33:42 PM)
Not my style. I'm the creepy mansion type, not the seedy downtown apartment type. It's the patriarchy in me. quote: ORIGINAL: gooddogbenji LaM, weren't you just recently saying you're moving into a smaller 1 bedroom apartment in an active neighbourhood?

koimizu -> RE: another sicko making us look bad (11/18/2006 2:25:11 AM)
Considering that more than a few Dominants can say that They have fallen prey to the cleverly worded profile of a potential submissive who was in a dire strait and yet felt 'drawn' to Them and more than willing to do anything to be closer to Them if provided with a place to crash and get themselves together....i have to go with Ms. Quivver in regards to playing with Hell's favorite poster boy. Sure, there are people who stare into the abyss and swear before all gods and their favorite aunt Pearl that if something comes along, ANYthing or ANYone, they will jump in with both feet and sing glory all the way through. Desperation can get a whole lot more ugly than a few fists across the body and frankly, no one should ever have to view it even if she may have been a bosom buddy to it. After all, the neighbors spoke about him. Certainly the mailman came everyday. Could there have been instances where she could have gotten away from him? Incapacitated him and gotten free? We really don't know since my personal outlook about forced oral is bite it off. Perhaps this woman saw the man, listened to his offer and decided a small service was better than the life she'd been living until then. Yes, it is possible he was not clear and tricked her, took advantage of her situation for his own personal goals and wound up getting what he deserved in the end of it all. Perhaps the woman thought once he'd gotten the inital works off, he'd slacken up. Who knows? Sadly and tragically, no one with absolute certainty but him. The rest is speculation, sensationalism and that he was said to be a computer person with bdsm paraphenalia should be a warning to other would be dabblers in the Life that fantasize about living it beyond the keyboard. Learn to play well with others first because someone always has a bigger flogger than you do. My poor .02

sophia37 -> RE: another sicko making us look bad (11/21/2006 7:33:11 AM)
I missed the link to the Dr's conversation. I only read the news story. As a reader, my confusion was with the layout of the story, not that the guy might have been into BDSM. I couldnt figure out how the two of them ended up together. I almost thought it said the town rounded her up and put her with him. Thats where I was coming from when I read it. Im always on the lookout for how gov. agencies screw up. And thats kinda what I was reading into it. As a "vanilla" reader I was totally NOT hung up on the BDSM parts you seem to think were so clear. He seemed like a nut case, not some practioner of some discipline. Give the Vanilla world some credit for having some brains please.

CandleInTheWind -> RE: another sicko making us look bad (11/27/2006 1:37:03 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RLowner You are forgetting one important thing the LAW Here in Michigan they just passsed a new law within the last year making our activity illeagle. Furthermore the girl does not have to testify as to any involvement. If they can see signs (marks) on the body then the guy is going to be charged and jailed. It is a new side of the domestic violance laws where anything seen is called evidence with or without the girls signing a complaint. All I can say is it is about as bad as the common domestic abuse law. We all need to understand that in some countries you can walk around naked or some what so but nit in the US. So read and understand your states laws even back from the 1700 hundreds. Never asume that what you doing it consensual as in most cases the laws say other wise. WE all need to be careful and know our partner and most of all respect eachother. Never assume that your safe in your own home for if a neighbor should see or suspect something the police are going to investigate I can promise you that. I am not taking sides or debating the issue only stating FACTS and I know those very well from past employment. SO all be careful and stay safe [ /quote] It is my understandin gthat tose types of laws were put there to avoid having persons that were abused to not have to be strong enought o have to press charges the law is that you cannot consent to be assaulted. and that is the rules... so that is why sooo many abused people go with the i fell excuse... there abusers are very knowing that if the abused says that they were struck then somone will come forward and basically futher bully them trying to get them to press charges..think about it... an abuse survivor getting bullied just minutes after being struck abusively and probabkly in a bullying manner...the law is put there to protect those that just do not have the emotional fortitude to do it for themselves...now if they would have that inplace for children that i wold love to see...for some reason whne it comes to parent child things one solitary bruise that is in a seen spot isnt good enough to have the child protected....please do not try to tell me other wise...I lived it!

LW3 -> RE: another sicko making us look bad (11/27/2006 2:12:14 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sophia37 As a "vanilla" reader I was totally NOT hung up on the BDSM parts you seem to think were so clear. He seemed like a nut case, not some practioner of some discipline. Give the Vanilla world some credit for having some brains please. you may be a "vanilla" reader but you know a little about our lifestyle. at least you know it's consensual but there's a lot of "vanilla" people that doesn't understand that. for them this sicko and BDSM Masters are the same and they are unable to understand the diference basically because they can't (and they don't want to) understand that slavery can be consensual.

MisPandora -> RE: another sicko making us look bad (11/27/2006 9:04:50 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Marc2b The part that infuriates me the most is that he used his fists on her. Call me old fashioned but I still hold with what my grandfather once told me when I way a boy: "Fists are for men settling disputes with other men, not for men settling disputes with women. Any man who uses his fists on a woman ain’t no man. He may be male but he ain’t no man." There are scores of folks out there, both male and female, who enjoy punching and grappling scenes. I own boxing gloves, sap (lead) gloves, muay thai gear among other non-lethal weaponry used in stick fighting and escrima. I spent the night in a women's play space in Maryland this weekend and say countless couples engaging in consensual punching scenes. And I know a male dom fem bottom pair out in AZ who make me speechless each time they engage in a rough play scene -- punching, kicking, choke holds, biting, etc. Just because you've not seen it or you don't get it or it's not your kink......it doesn't mean it's flat out wrong. I'll fight to the death that you be able to consensually do your kinks, whatever they may be, so long as you leave mine alone.

candyslave -> RE: another sicko making us look bad (12/1/2006 2:17:09 PM)
wow, right before halloween too.. shivers.. poor homeless girl.. glad she made it, wonder if anyone met with him that he met on line, and thinks he is a good dom LOL.. kidding ... but, didn't ever report the incident.. or were not sure wearing a collar, being beat in a door way, performing sex acts on command, and calling one Lord and or Master... was something out of the ordinary in bdsm... for someone from a bdsm personals site.. being homeless, not into bdsm, i bet could be traumatic.. like, i gotta do this to get a roof over my head... i wish i could read a follow up story on the woman, or him, and see what they are saying now.. glad she is ok..

master54t -> RE: another sicko making us look bad (12/1/2006 5:51:35 PM)
many that call themselves a master or a domtend to take advantage of the subs that try to please them. i find it totally out of the true context of what this lifestyle is all about and any sub or self styled slave should never do anything that is beyond what they want - even when in the role that they choose. i feel that the ones that take advantage of the subs should be used as a sub for about a week and then they will play right. i am a dominate male and i am totally disgusted with some of the doms that claim their experience which many have gained from just eatching movies

MistressYlwa -> RE: another sicko making us look bad (12/9/2006 9:41:41 AM)
I understand the possibility of someone seeing the section where he demanded to be called "lord and master" and connecting it to BDSM. But from my point of view, I don't think the general public will see this as D/s situation. The article was clearly not written as a way to denegrate the lifestyle. No mention of BDSM at all. For this reason, I don't think that it would be fair to say, in my opinion, that this will be a problem for people in the lifestyle. Personally, I think we should be looking at legislation.

Miraculix -> RE: another sicko making us look bad (1/20/2007 8:08:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RLowner You are forgetting one important thing the LAW Here in Michigan they just passsed a new law within the last year making our activity illeagle. Furthermore the girl does not have to testify as to any involvement. If they can see signs (marks) on the body then the guy is going to be charged and jailed. It is a new side of the domestic violance laws where anything seen is called evidence with or without the girls signing a complaint. All I can say is it is about as bad as the common domestic abuse law. We all need to understand that in some countries you can walk around naked or some what so but nit in the US. So read and understand your states laws even back from the 1700 hundreds. Never asume that what you doing it consensual as in most cases the laws say other wise. WE all need to be careful and know our partner and most of all respect eachother. Never assume that your safe in your own home for if a neighbor should see or suspect something the police are going to investigate I can promise you that. I am not taking sides or debating the issue only stating FACTS and I know those very well from past employment. SO all be careful and stay safe ...scary at times, yet so true

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