Rack - will it work, will it be safe?

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txparanoid -> Rack - will it work, will it be safe? (1/31/2005 2:25:37 AM)
Okay, here's the question - would it be possible to turn a standard queen sized bed into a rack using one of those racheting tie-downs? Would it work? Would it be safe(-ish?) I might have to put an end-table on the end of the bed so that there's enough length, but basically, the strap would connect at the center of the subbie's ankle spreaderbar, go under the bed, lengthwise, under the bed, under the end-table, and loop back around to subbie's wrists. With each rachet, the strap becomes shorter, and can be quickly released. There is a caveat to this - the way that's set up, you're putting about 6x as much pressure on the center of the spreader bar as there is tension on the ends. This could be a bonus if made of the right material - although I'd have to pay attention, the bar could snap (thus releasing tension) before the pressure gets too high to damage. Also, if the end-table thing doesn't work, anyone got any advice on making a rack <i>cheaply</i>?

BD123 -> RE: Rack - will it work, will it be safe? (9/24/2006 3:47:53 PM)
Instead of a bed, try two (2x10 or 2x12) 8-10' long planks supported on sawhorses. The planks would hold your anchor points for the restraints. For a few extra dollars the mill can plane, round edges and sand planks. Apply 3-4 coats of a good finish or upholster to your taste.

John665623 -> RE: Rack - will it work, will it be safe? (9/26/2006 9:35:26 PM)
I think your general idea will work. Make sure the cuffs are wide and padded as well as strong spreader bars at top and bottom like you mentioned. You could also skip the bars and ues two straps. Cross straps could also be added to sperad the wrists and ankles. More corss straps could also hold down sholdres, hipps, knees, etc. I think you will find that once all the slack is out, one or two more clicks will completely immoblize the sub. More pressure will just result in pain and possible physical harm.

Rafters -> RE: Rack - will it work, will it be safe? (9/27/2006 1:43:30 AM)
Instead of racheting them, just form a long loop with a bit of slack, then slide a (too long) bar through it and rotate it. As the straps get twisted, they tighten. Once the loops are the right length, release the bar and the torsion will jam it against the bed so it won't release. To loosen just untwist it. You can tug out the bar or cut the straps for an emergency release.

QuietDom -> RE: Rack - will it work, will it be safe? (9/27/2006 9:32:29 AM)
To alleviate stress on the bar (this is typically done for suspension) attach a single length of chain slightly longer than the bar at both ends. Attach your ratchet strap or whatever else to the midpoint of the chain.

Nyckname -> RE: Rack - will it work, will it be safe? (9/27/2006 10:06:14 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Rafters Instead of racheting them, just form a long loop with a bit of slack, then slide a (too long) bar through it and rotate it. As the straps get twisted, they tighten. In case anyone is interested, this is known as a Spanish windlass. cheers

MasterDesire -> RE: Rack - will it work, will it be safe? (9/27/2006 11:09:13 AM)
In my experiences using ratcheting straps is not safe as in order to release you have to put more force on them. If you use the cheep ones 1 inch wide they still have a pull of 600 pounds and that will dislocate a joint. If your going to sue them then attach them using a rope that can be cut quickly. Always keep a sharp knife handy or better than that use a seat belt cutter. So many do not understand that safety is paramount and a joint may be strong on one person and very week on another and easy to pull and damage that joint. Just please remember safety first. Never assume someone is safe. Use your safe word or movement.

sonny2000 -> RE: Rack - will it work, will it be safe? (9/27/2006 11:30:03 AM)
Personaly I think a long narrow sturdy bondage table {massage table}adds to any dungeon.however if we get carried away we can tear or dislocate a shoulder with less force then one might imagine with just about any rachating strap,winch or what have you. So be gentile

PONYSEEKER -> RE: Rack - will it work, will it be safe? (9/27/2006 12:13:47 PM)
I think your really playing with fire if you use the rachettes. I would go with the windless for better control. One of the reasons is that when you get into your session it will put more additional stress from the sub tring to wiggle or pull on the ropes and also because what might be within the comfort zone at the begining (a slight stretch of the spine) might turn into misery 20 minutes down the road. I would think that if lets say you had a woman on the rack and was playing with her a simple pelvic tilt and other simple movements done by her under those circumstances could easily cause muscle spasms. A windless could be modified to fail under set amounts of tention making it safer and it can be released a lot faster. Also, I would think it would be better to make your own table or pick up some kind on banquet table from home depot and modify it. The reason is because of the width and also because the metal framwork and press board would contain enough strenth to make a windless design by posibly attaching a wooden dowl to the head of it using to pieces of scrap metal bolted to the underside of the table and slipping the dowl through holes drilled in the plates and connecting a large x on the ends of the dowl so you can wind it up so to speak and you might be able to use the break from a bike or an older exercise machine to hold the tention.... just a thought.

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