LadyAngelika
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ORIGINAL: Voltare My intention was hardly to dispute your statement - I catagorically agreed with everything you stated. I just simply suggested that the source of sexual confidence isn't a function of dominance, but rather a basic human quality. I know :) I agreed with you agreeing with me and all that jazz. I was simply trying to make my point with more precision about why it was significantly different from a Domme's perspective. quote:
ORIGINAL: Voltare Insinuating that because I am neither a Domme nor a person who understands them doesn't make my comment more or less valid. I didn't insuate that at all. I was simply refocussing my original post ;) Your opinion is quite welcomed here as far as I'm concerned. Just realise that we discuss Domme issues in this forum. If it was a question addressed to the population at large, I know where the General forum is and I would go post there. quote:
ORIGINAL: Voltare If you have a personal concern about my commentary, feel free to contact me off board to discuss the issue. I don't have a "personal concern " about your commentary. This is a message board. We post off one another and that is the way it works. I don't see the need nor do I have the time to entertain parallel conversations. My response to you was not an attack. It was a statement. I speak in a direct tone but I do keep it civil. Perhaps I should add a bunch of kissy faces and smilies so people will realise I'm not such the bitch?  Chill baby. It's all good.  quote:
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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika The essence here is that Women are often dichotomised as Madonna/Whore (for the X-tians and other variations for others). Women not in touch with their sexuality are Madonnas (not to be confused with the pop sensation who has shown us just how in touch she is with hers!). Women who take charge of their sexuality are Whores. Of course many submissive women take charge of their sexuality. But then they hand it over to someone. Dominant women take charge of their sexuality as well as the sexuality of the men and women they dominate. It's like a double dose of whoredom or something. And that is the issue I was trying to raise with this post. - LA I agree with you in most respects to your observation here. I find these polarizations to be even more distinct where I am living, where men aggressively seek 'Whores' six days a week, and spend one day a week with their Madonna, keeping the same Madonna for years at a time. A 30 year old acquaintence of mine is a prime example. He has told me he loves his girlfriend of four years and intends to marry her in a few years, but only wants to love her one day a week, and wishes the other six days he could spend with a hot girl for the night, weekend, etc. He spends a lot of money on his girlfriend, has a good relationship with the family of the woman, etc, but every time I see him, he is complaining about the time and effort she takes. To be fair, this is a two way street. A woman here who is in the Madonna role here is usually devoted, well educated, and quite attractive. She often complains about the lack of time and attention she receives, but makes no real effort to change her situation. In the example of my acquaintence, she could just dump her boyfriend and find one better suited to her needs - but obviously this requires risks, and a great deal of disruption to her life. As for the woman choosing the Whore role, I don't believe this such a simple matter because I don't think anyone sets out in life to be in this position. In reality, I think women who take charge of their sexuality aren't seen as whores so much, as they are seen as attractive and interesting. I know women in my life who, while not the most physically beautiful woman I've met, have amazing personalities and a great deal of confidence in themselves as women, both sexually, emotionally, and intellectually. They never lack attention from men, and often leave the more shallow women with the expensive clothes, hair, and makeup clueless as to how they do it. In the end, just because a woman (or man) is dichotomised by others, doesn't mean they are obligated to the role. Stephan What you say makes much sense. However between what we perceive ourselves to be and how others perceive us is a different story. It is hard for many women to let themselves be true to their sexual nature when there is so much pressure to be "a good girl". Some of us manage to do it. And yes, the way women are perceived in different areas of the world changes significantly. Where I live, in Montréal, women are more encouraged to be open about their sexuality then even down south in the US or East or West of me. It is the French/European influence. I feel priveledged in fact to live in such an open minded society. That said, there is still major room for improvement. - LA
< Message edited by LadyAngelika -- 2/7/2005 6:18:44 PM >
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