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PainMaster4358 -> Room Moderators (2/2/2005 4:37:18 PM)

It's a sad fact that a site that started out so well is going the way of aol, msn, and yahoo groups. I am one of the first people to join this site when it started under a different name and since being back i see that a opinion is no longer allowed in the chatrooms. It's a sad state when we as Brothers and Sisters in the lifestyle start gagging each other as effectively as society is doing.
The room rules are only followed by the newbies or the ones not friends with the moderators. Whispering without asking is not only rude but disrespectful and when something is said in the room the moderator jumps on the person complaining about being whispered. Those who do this should learn 4 things in this lifestyle, (1) Learn to read, (2) respect a collar and respect everyone as they do you, (3) Learn what it mean to be you, whether your a Dom, Domme, sub, slave, or switch. and (4) My god learn what it means to be real and not a online wannabe who sits here day after day whining about they can't find what they are looking for. Get off line, go to a munch or party, get to know people, and learn. There are 80,000 members and 79000 are whiners who sit here everyday brow beating the real lifers because they are jealous. Don't just talk the talk, learn the walk then come and make comments about my post.




knkywch -> RE: Room Moderators (2/2/2005 4:50:08 PM)

Howdy...

This is a confusing post. First, I thought it was a complaint about room moderators censoring people.

Then, I thought it was about room moderators censoring a specific group of people. So, are you saying that if you're not friends with a moderator and not a newbie, does that mean that you don't have to follow room rules?

What do you mean by "whispering"?

And are you saying that the people who are whispering need to learn your four rules or that the moderators who jump on them do?

Finally, I thought the post was complaining about the whining complainers... Would that be whining complainers who are moderators or whining complainers who are moderators that censor specific groups or...

Would you be so kind as to clarify?

Honestly confused,
kw




proudsub -> RE: Room Moderators (2/2/2005 5:34:19 PM)

Why don't you volunteer to be a moderator if you want to change things.




stef -> RE: Room Moderators (2/2/2005 5:38:45 PM)

Whining requires less effort than voluntering.

~stef




MistressDREAD -> RE: Room Moderators (2/2/2005 6:11:17 PM)

HA!

Hello Pain

Really Dominants You gotta learn how to use this system here.......
If You don't like the chat room You enter into and its rules that each one of Us can make,
MAKE YOUR OWN FREAKEN CHAT ROOM!!
Moderators on this site do a damn fine jOb on the boards and even I have stepped on sums toes now and then and take My punishment like a Big Gurl when I do but all and all running a site thats busting at the seems like this one is a daunting task at best and well as I can see in the new year it will now be quite a profitable one as well. ~winks at the Owners~

Growing pains always hurt those that have to carry the load the longest.

If You need to learn how to open Your Own chat room Pain, Ill be more then happy to show You
how its done so that You can then do as You please in Your Own room and make Your Own rules for someone else to mess up with and then You can correct Them how You please too.

I agree with You fully tho Pain that those whom come to a lifestyle Community SHOULD learn its Alternate Lifestyles rules, regulations and common protocols even if there are those whom CHOOSE NOT to adhere to their use. Plenty of vanilla sites on the world wide web for those whom do not like the way Our Lifestyles been lived for many a generations I say, but then again I'm another One of those Oldie but Goodies thats been around here since the beginning and into Alternate Living My Whole Life............
And Im OLLLLLDDDDDDDDDD!JMPO
[;)]




PainMaster4358 -> RE: Room Moderators (2/2/2005 9:20:41 PM)

Well for number one i don't have time to sit on my butt all day being a wannabe. When everyone here defends those that mock the lifestyle then all it tells me is you are no better. respect for a collar is the main topic here which seems to me alot of people think is a farce. If you proudsub have time to sit and do nothing then i suggest that maybe you be a moderator. After all i think you'll fit right in.




PainMaster4358 -> RE: Room Moderators (2/2/2005 9:24:01 PM)

Whining? In standing up for my property to avoid a hassle with the wannabees that don't respect collars is whing then i'll whine everyday as everyone else should. Maybe if we whine enough they'll actually learn what a collar is. Before delving into a post that apparently you know nothing about i suggest you go into the rooms and sit and watch to see what i am referring to.




PainMaster4358 -> RE: Room Moderators (2/2/2005 9:31:08 PM)

If stepping on toes is what it takes to put a stop to people disrespecting a collared slave then ok i'll open one. My point is the moderators in the room protected someone because they were being rude not only to my slave but to others as well. If that is what this site has turned into then i say OK you all can have it because it's not what it was meant to be. All that was said was please don't im my slave without asking and i am wrong. COOL I refuse to lower my standards to suit those that have nothing better to do then flaunt their little hammers and egos, strutting around with their chests all puffed up trying to be something they aren't. I step on toes all the time and i respect opinions, but i won't respect prejudiced in any form.




perverseangelic -> RE: Room Moderators (2/2/2005 10:25:37 PM)

I know that chat rooms are generally a big pain becuase people don't do what the room rules ask.

Don't chalk it up to the site sucking. Chalk it up to the fact that people, in general and espeically on the internet, suck.

In unsolicited private message is easily delt with- close it and ignore the sender. If anything, the fact that they've sent it tells you not to bother with them.

Sure, they aren't following room rules, but at least they've eliminated themselves from being taken seriously without you haveing to even get to -know- them.




NATI -> RE: Room Moderators (2/2/2005 11:31:40 PM)

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respect for a collar is the main topic here


Did I miss something in the OP? The subject is 'Room Moderators', the rant seems to be about a class of people called 'wannabe whiners' but the topic - though never stated as such - is respect for collars.

I think MistressDread gave you some good advice. Open a room of your own. That sounds a whole lot more constructive to me than bringing this into the forums. Many of us - myself included - don't use the chatrooms. So, we genuinely have no idea what you are talking about - other than you got upset because a chat-troll said something to your slave.




jillwfsub4blkdom -> RE: Room Moderators (2/3/2005 3:30:27 AM)

First of all you have to consider the people you are dealing with. The room moderators only start enforcing things if you aren't their buddies. Also rules are only enforced when they feel like it. Same things happen regardless of the venue. You also will encounter idiots in regards to people in the room who lack respect. Just because someone goes into a bdsm chatroom doesn't mean they have a clue about decorum. The block feature works in the chatroom and i am sure you have trained your slave how to deal with unwanted ims.

jill




MistressDREAD -> RE: Room Moderators (2/3/2005 5:22:40 AM)


Pain I would never infringe nor overlook protical and agree wholly apon Your complaint HOWEVER the reality is that those whom Own chat rooms here are NOT the people whom Moderate the boards here. The chat rooms work where if You open the chat room You become
its hammer holder and except for two chat rooms that are the original openers of chats here on Collarme any chat room that is opened is done so by individuals whom might or might not adhear to Our Lifestyles rules, regulations and proticals. I too like You expect respect of My Dominant position whilst with in a Alternate Lifestyle site but the reality today is that there are many whom are not totally commited to Our Lifestyle and do not have a complete understanding of Our Lifestyle ways and unfortunatly those whom hold hammers in chats are not there to keep up the rules of Our Lifestyle but mearly to upkeep the rules of their Own thoughts. Again I say if You dont like something with in the system, Make Your Own and stop being a part of that which You dont agree with. Im sure You and Yours would make a wonderfullly rule run chat room that many would enter and enjoy as well as the regular chats that cater to all and everyone. But please understand the system here more and how the chat rooms run and how the boards run and the differances in whom is in charge and what rules are used from day to day in chats differs depending wholly on who has the bat and has nothing to do with the board Moderators here unless they choose to go and open a chat room for the day as well. I do beleive that a special MotorCycle Dom has the keys to the Lobby room and You might go to Him and make Your complaint of the goings on there and get some resulution to Your problem. Those whom do not respect others property should be shot in My Opinion. Course I am a hunter........ JMPO




PainMaster4358 -> RE: Room Moderators (2/3/2005 6:33:20 AM)

If we shot them all then 95% of the people here would be gone. Thank You for your very informative post, and as a man first, a Dom second my apologies to the moderators who have skill, knowledge, and a true understanding of what this is all about.




ModeratorThree -> RE: Room Moderators (2/3/2005 9:45:26 AM)

I personally found your comments to proud and sfgrll incredibly rude. From one complaining about respect I am in shcock you could make such disrespectful comments.

If you had spent more than 10 minutes on this side of CollarMe you would realize that both of the members you insulted do in fact spend a great deal of time assisting others. If you took a moment to see the name under proudsubs' member name you would have seen she does have a custome title. Given to her because she does in fact offer her time, quiet generously I might add, assisting new posters in finding topics they have questions about. As far as sfgrll goes, if you took the time to read her posts you would aslo see she offers mountains of assistance to members here on the forums. She is very fluent in many aspects of the lifestyle and in fact many subjects not lifestyle related. And often spends her time helping others and answering questions.

What you did here was have a complaint about the chat rooms, so you popped in over here and made judgemental remarks about the site in general. You, in effect where in fact whining. You may try sending an email to support in regard to your issue's with the chat feature. And you may also try to speak to the chat ops in regard to chat room rules. To my knowledge there is no rule that says you must ask permission to whisper to anyone. Let's face reality, there are far too many much more serious offences that are to be dealt with. As one member has already mentioned, ignore works well.

Everyone here volunteers their time, and for the most part as far as I know they do it because they have a genuine concern for the site. There is no fame or glory.. and frankly it is pretty much a thankless job. The members here are wonderful for the most part and do tell us thank you many many times. But there are 100 others that send rude, nasty and vulgar emails to every 1 great member that understands just how much work we really do around here.

If you have complaints I suggest you address them to Admin and Moderators so that the issues can be resolved instead of airing dirty laundry in the forums. It does not make you look any more "real" by comeing into the forums to complain. If you don't like the chats, avoid them.. if a member annoys you or "disrespects" you I suggest you ignore them.

As far as you being a member before this place was CollarMe I have to ask what it was? You must be mistaken as this place had always been CollarMe. And, it does serve the purpose intended. It is a personals site, you have the ability to place a personal ad to obtain friendships or whatever else you seek. The chats are meant as chat.. there are thousands of chat rooms on the internet, same issues and uses with pretty much all of them. The forums are set up as a place for people to hang out have discussions and for those just entering the lifestyle to have the ability to ask questions. Even when they may seem silly to many others. They are questions.... and obviously there are others out there seeking answers.






Good day!

From someone that does sit on her but all day to provide a place that others can enjoy, relax find answers ask questions and hang out with like minded people in the lifestyle... I do it for the love of the life.


Mod3

*DISCLAIMER*

These are my thoughts and opinions, I own them and they are not to be considered those of the owners of Collarme.




proudsub -> RE: Room Moderators (2/3/2005 1:11:48 PM)

Thank you for your comments Trey.[:)]




happypervert -> RE: Room Moderators (2/4/2005 2:21:34 PM)

quote:

It's a sad state when we as Brothers and Sisters in the lifestyle start gagging each other as effectively as society is doing.

Sorry, but I'm not your brother and after reading your little rant I'm glad I'm not related to you; however, I would gladly gag you if that meant I would never have to read your self-righteous whining again.

If you want to make a contribution and improve things, then do it. Complaining is less than worthless because it is just annoying and it accomplishes nothing.




SherriA -> RE: Room Moderators (2/4/2005 10:04:42 PM)

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ORIGINAL: PainMaster4358

respect for a collar is the main topic here which seems to me alot of people think is a farce.


*To me*, a collar is a fashion accessory. I respect it about as much as I respect a brooch someone wears on their lapel or a really nifty tie tack and cufflinks set. *shrug* Not everyone attaches the same meaning to things, and respecting THAT might do you some good.

How is everyone supposed to know what a collar means *to you*. Should we all be mind readers? I must have missed that requirement when I signed up.




MizSuz -> RE: Room Moderators (2/5/2005 7:19:20 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: PainMaster4358

Whining? In standing up for my property to avoid a hassle with the wannabees that don't respect collars is whing then i'll whine everyday as everyone else should. Maybe if we whine enough they'll actually learn what a collar is. Before delving into a post that apparently you know nothing about i suggest you go into the rooms and sit and watch to see what i am referring to.


Somewhere along the line I once heard someone say "Chatrooms are the streetcorners of the Internet" and I can't say that I disagree. As in any other public venue, you're going to get people you hit it off with (which usually equates to "agree with") and you're going to get people that you don't.

Not everyone is going to agree with your protocols or agree to abide by them. The question is how well do you maintain your own boundaries? Your pique with people who do not acquiesce to your preferred protocols suggests that you are uncomfortable with people who do not agree with you. If this is true then perhaps it would be more suitable to your constitution to find a group of people who agree with your basic premises and how they should manifest.

I'm pretty sure that a street corner will not be limiting enough in regards to your exposure to those that don't agree with you. Why not find a more suitable corner? It's even possible that you can find an empty corner and then moderate it yourself. The CM chatroom is an IRC channel. Make your own, confer ops on yourself and those who agree with you, create a bot that will eject people based on keywords and/or keep it manned by an op 24/7. I think you're going to be lonely, though.





sub4hire -> RE: Room Moderators (2/5/2005 8:20:20 AM)

quote:

Well for number one i don't have time to sit on my butt all day being a wannabe. When everyone here defends those that mock the lifestyle then all it tells me is you are no better. respect for a collar is the main topic here which seems to me alot of people think is a farce. If you proudsub have time to sit and do nothing then i suggest that maybe you be a moderator. After all i think you'll fit right in.


I agree with Mod 3 this was certainly not called for. Here you are the one whining. Complaining that the room mod's don't take care of you well enough. You and your online collared sub get harassed. Well, one way to fix that. Stop being online and go real time. Then you won't need a chat room. You can come to munches and parties together. Then when you want to talk to someone, you will know they are real and you can IM them because hey, you just met them at your real chat room sitting around the table at the munch.

Mod 3 if you need a volunteer mod for hate mail. I'd be willing to do it. Sign me up.




PainMaster4358 -> RE: Room Moderators (2/5/2005 1:39:30 PM)

First of all WE are real time unlike alot of you. My chief complaint was and still is how the mods play favorites in the rooms. When YOU get a real collar then you can answer my comments on here. If i offend you then as you all have told put me on IGNORE because trust me i will you. Frankly what any of you think is of no concern to me because as usual you whine so well without me giving you ammo.




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