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RE: male/female bottoms - differences? - 11/6/2006 8:52:31 AM

joyinslavery

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Please don't take yourself SO seriously. It's not personal. Really.

You'll get all kinds of responses to your post. Some serious and perhaps overthought and others silly and playful with little to no thought. Mine belongs in the latter category but I would like to bring to your attention that my post is, entirely factual.

Have fun.

Edited because I'm lazy.

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RE: male/female bottoms - differences? - 11/6/2006 8:55:40 AM

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

This argues against itself, since I seen plenty barbies that took a fuck of a haircut......

Women hide destruction, men dance in the guts of it.......

That's why they are always redecorating........

If you can't laugh a little THAT is the sad part.........

This should be fun as well as fulfilling..........

Ron

SMILES - ah there we go ... this is what I'm looking for meat and potatos discussion ... and YES there are LOTS of dolls with butchered hair and coloured upon cheeks but as a boy are you familiar what the results of this action are? And as a female with a brother ... can I also point out the destruction of these ahem "hallowed posessions" is NOT always at Our Own hand.
But yes this is brilliant ...

And the world, My friend ... is contradictory - it's up to Us as individuals to sort out the mess ... *soft smiles* And THAT is always the fun part.
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RE: male/female bottoms - differences? - 11/6/2006 8:58:44 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: joyinslavery

Please don't take yourself SO seriously. It's not personal. Really.

You'll get all kinds of responses to your post. Some serious and perhaps overthought and others silly and playful with little to no thought. Mine belongs in the latter category but I would like to bring to your attention that my post is, entirely factual.

Have fun.

Edited because I'm lazy.

Laughs - actually I was trying to reply to you the first time you posted it when the thread vanished ... And I know you were being a smart ass - indeed I was counting on someone doing it ... LOL! Every now and again ya just HAVE to let human nature play into your hands so you can pretend to be a snot - while getting a chuckle. *kisses n squishes* Chuckles ... and no offence taken, or meant either. Nice to meet yo joy.
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RE: male/female bottoms - differences? - 11/6/2006 9:01:16 AM

Archer

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ORIGINAL: Aileen68

That's stereotypical male/female bullshit.

Yes but stereotypes are part of each of our minds, we have to constantly watch for them, and that is why it's fun to turn them on their heads because the mental effect of turning social beliefs upside down.

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RE: male/female bottoms - differences? - 11/6/2006 9:02:41 AM

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There certainly is a difference.........but anything will be stereotypical----

You never see a thread about a male who has trouble coming........
we know what we did and how to do it again, it is rather reptilian

You never see a man start a thread about a womans squirting orgasms....
We don't get bent outta shape about it. There is no larger issue there.

Women need all these ancillary things to get it handled...........

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RE: male/female bottoms - differences? - 11/6/2006 9:04:58 AM

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ORIGINAL: Aileen68

That's stereotypical male/female bullshit.

Yes, it is. But, if society is above this- why are blue balloons sold to celebrate the birth of a boy and pink for a girl?

Trivial, yep. Just an example of early sex role indoctrination/ seperation.

JMHO

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RE: male/female bottoms - differences? - 11/6/2006 9:06:59 AM

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Women need all these ancillary things to get it handled...........

Dead-on Ron.

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RE: male/female bottoms - differences? - 11/6/2006 9:08:48 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Archer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Aileen68

That's stereotypical male/female bullshit.

Yes but stereotypes are part of each of our minds, we have to constantly watch for them, and that is why it's fun to turn them on their heads because the mental effect of turning social beliefs upside down.

Going outside of the box is definitely fun.

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ORIGINAL: Fawne
Yes, it is. But, if society is above this- why are blue balloons sold to celebrate the birth of a boy and pink for a girl?

Trivial, yep. Just an example of early sex role indoctrination/ seperation.

JMHO

I never said that society was above this.

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RE: male/female bottoms - differences? - 11/6/2006 9:11:51 AM

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Cool.

Today, I'll be nice and you'll be mean. <giggles>

luv ya

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RE: male/female bottoms - differences? - 11/6/2006 9:12:31 AM

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ORIGINAL: Sekhemet

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ORIGINAL: Aileen68

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ORIGINAL: Sekhemet

genitals is an obvious and a given ... Perhaps some prefer the added ... input locations? Thats what I'm trying to discern here.

The question is the difference in male and female BOTTOMS (mindset, attitudes, presentation, sexuality etc) here kids - not Tops. But - Why is everyone looking for a girl slave ... ? I mean there HAS to be a reason for it or no one would care, right?
Even here we have ask a Master & ask a Mistress - but the bottoms are all mashed together in one group, not males and females or subs and slaves even just one big ol' lump ... so ... WHY are you lumped together as a group, but cherry picked individually with females being the ones most often chosen?? No one else finds this mentally amusing? Or has given it any thought??
XxoxX

Maybe you should be directing this question to bisexual tops and asking them why they pick one sex over another.
Straight tops will always pick the opposite sex.

Actually I'm straight and prefer to play with females but have sex with males - and ONLY those who are slave or bottom, those who are not bottoms I have little to no interest in on the whole and as a rule. I'm a bottom lover, and I'm happy to admit it, and can define the interests. I'm sure I'm not the only one in that pool either, but unless things are looked at and discussed and thought of ... Its just - not looked at in depth, and is thus assumed.
My personal oddity this way has helped Me to look at the question Myself, I'd just thought SOMEONE else must have looked at this as well - I mean its only sensible. Isn't it?
XxoxX

I just think that you are looking for something subjective. It's like asking someone to defend why they like blondes over brunettes.

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RE: male/female bottoms - differences? - 11/6/2006 9:13:40 AM

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ORIGINAL: Fawne

Cool.

Today, I'll be nice and you'll be mean. <giggles>

luv ya

Oooh...I didn't mean that to come across as cold in any way.
Sorry.

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RE: male/female bottoms - differences? - 11/6/2006 9:14:45 AM

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Just teasing...
no real sarcasm intended.

Good convo. TY all.

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RE: male/female bottoms - differences? - 11/6/2006 9:17:47 AM

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Why do the boys take out the trash and the girls clean the bathrooms?
Boys cut the lawn and do yard work, while girls learn to do floors, laundry and dust?
Girls ... wear ... dresses. Is that a stereotype?
Seen any10 yr old boys in a dress lately? Or is that a sterotype that doesn't exist ... and then gee - why not?!
... I mean yes its a stereotype and yes its not 100% accurate but stereotypes happen and are there - for a reason.
If boys and girls WERE the same we'd not have brownies AND scouts and they WOULD teach all the same stuff. Are they sterotyping too?

Orgasms - EXCELLENT point! One of the noted ones, but in a different vein ... males are far more sexually exhibitive while females tend to be far more withdrawn and controlled in this regard, perhaps not completely but in some regard - as mentioned the ability to orgasm, or the type of orgasm. even societally males are 1000x more likely to remove their shirts in pubglic while there is a 1000x more likely to be a LAW in place prohibiting the females from acting in kind. This has to reflect back upon the whole of the psychology of the female mimdset and carriage, it simply can not have no repercussions.
So then and with what You were saying; is it the enjoyment of bringing this out - or is it the fact its far less of a pain to deal with? Does bringing it out cause anyone concerns, issues, noted patterns of behaviours etc?

Don't rip Me out for societies short comings ... I'm just asking a question and hoping WE can look at it all constructively where apparently others have chosen to turn a blind eye.

Loving all the places where this is going - and thank you all!
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RE: male/female bottoms - differences? - 11/6/2006 9:26:39 AM

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Even very small boys run around and wing that fucker out in front of everybody, and really don't care if you laugh............that changes in time I suppose, but as adults they pretty much haven't changed when they are on the horn...

But toddling girls, while occasionally they might do such a thing, running around and showing off, they are pretty much over it after diaper training....................
Their exhibitionism is less likely to call attention to any one part...........but the overall............

In my estimation

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RE: male/female bottoms - differences? - 11/6/2006 9:44:22 AM

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Even very small boys run around and wing that fucker out in front of everybody, and really don't care if you laugh............that changes in time I suppose, but as adults they pretty much haven't changed when they are on the horn...

But toddling girls, while occasionally they might do such a thing, running around and showing off, they are pretty much over it after diaper training....................
Their exhibitionism is less likely to call attention to any one part...........but the overall............

In my estimation

That might depend on the kid...lol. At age 7, my daughter was still running around naked. Yes the nut doesn't fall far from the tree. i also associate with open minded people, who if their sons wanted to wear a dress they could.

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RE: male/female bottoms - differences? - 11/6/2006 9:51:16 AM

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LOL,

I follow that, but I don't have any sons..........and they couldn't wear dresses until they were at least 18....if I did have sons.

One time my 16 year old daughter (21 now) said -- Dad, I am going to get a navel ring-----
I looked at her sideways and said That motherfucker better say Annapolis on it and have a set of gold epaulets, to match----

When she was 18, she got a navel ring........I didn't say a word.

My house, my rules--- 'cause that's the kinda guy I am.....

Wondering what you would look like in a fire engine red dress...............LOL

Ron

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RE: male/female bottoms - differences? - 11/6/2006 9:55:23 AM

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ORIGINAL: Archer
The biggest differences would be in what and how you access the goal, ie humiliation, feminization works well with men but masculinization seems to be all but non existant as a source of humiliation for women.

Do you think (anyone who cares to answer) that the reason for this is because male Dom's might be a bit fearful that if they make their girl appear masculine and have sex with them, that it would indicate they might be gay? or bi? Its just a thought that popped into my head. Because you hear so many crazy things that supposedly makes a person *gay* For example: If a guy wears pink, that means he could be gay. Or if a guy doesn't like sports but is more into cooking, that he could be gay?

Just a thought
~Lashra

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RE: male/female bottoms - differences? - 11/6/2006 10:22:50 AM

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I think its more becasue masculinzation in women isnt really unacceptable. While a male that is femenized is taboo, if you look around today, the majority of women are equally comfortable being femenine or masculine in their everyday lives. It cant be humiliating when there is nothing out of the ordinary about it.
I will admit, a male Dom friend of mine did say he hates when his pets are more manly than he is, but I think thats just taste. I dont think it would be construed as maybe being "gay".

DV

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RE: male/female bottoms - differences? - 11/6/2006 10:42:44 AM

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I don't think it has as much to do with the Dominant as it does the submissive I mean look at fashion over the past century women's wera has increasingly become more masculine as the lines have been blured.
Pants
Ties
shoes

I think it has more to do with the societal value of women and men though as to why it is "humiliating"
Crying like a girl
Hitting like a girl
sissy
if a boy is to be insulted all they need to do is call him a girl (talking elementary school here although some never seem to have left it behind)/

IF a girl hits like a boy it's celebrated almost as much as it is viewed as a bad thing
The girl may suffer a little teasing but it has a certain respect in it as well.
I'm not saying it is right or good just that it is.

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RE: male/female bottoms - differences? - 11/6/2006 10:57:28 AM

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Where's LA when you need her? There have definitely been several threads about this.

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ORIGINAL: Sekhemet

I'm just asking a question and hoping WE can look at it all constructively where apparently others have chosen to turn a blind eye.

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