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Aileen68 -> RE: Lying. (11/13/2006 2:55:19 PM)
I was listening to Madonna, NOT.

stef -> RE: Lying. (11/13/2006 2:59:07 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aileen68 What's a tude? It's something a 'yoot' usually has. ~stef

Aileen68 -> RE: Lying. (11/13/2006 3:05:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: stef quote: ORIGINAL: Aileen68 What's a tude? It's something a 'yoot' usually has. ~stef Ahhh.That's why I don't remember tudes...my yoot was sooo long ago. Damn Alzheimers.

MagiksSlave -> RE: Lying. (11/13/2006 4:42:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Squeakers Ok I have to say it Magik first of all it's collared not collard---collard is a leafy vegetable. And really it's not what you think or feel it's the way you come across. I'm sorry but this is how I feel---'your no it all attitude' rubs me the wrong way because you project it in nearly every post I have read. If you collared at 22 and are still 22 according to your profile---how much experience do you have under your belt? (that's the correct spelling btw). Some people are ready for a collar at 18. I knew what I wanted and that I was submissive at a much younger age; I just didn't know that such a lifestyle exsisted. There wasn't any internet back then had I had known, I definately would have been ready at 18 because I experienced mild BD/SM at 17, I just didn't have a name for what I wanted and craved. Just because it doesn't work for you doesn't mean it won't work for someone else. One isn't born with experience, we learn and grow. When I met my first Dom I didn't have much experience, what I did have was knowledge of what I desired and needed to exsist. Give others a break. Never said I could spell, as for a know it all attitude, well if thats how you feel Im not sure there is much I can do about it, attitude is so very hard to judge when just reading. I dont mean to seem that way because well Im not!!! yes I am still 22 I have only been with Master a few months but I have been exploreing since I was 15, But honestly this thread isnt about me!! You say i have a know it all attitude fine though i dont know why you would say that aspecially since im very carefull makeing sure everyone knows I am speaking my opinion and not fact, when ever I give my opinion I state it as that!!! You have yours and I have mine. You may think what ever you want but that doesnt change how I feel... No age is not the be all and end all of things, but I feel 18 is very very young. its how I feel and unlike you Im not trying to get everyone to think as I do Im simply stateing my opinion if you agree fine if not thats fine too Im not saying how you feel is wrong I just dont agree. So please stop trying to tell me my opinion is wrong just because you dont agree with it!! Magik's slave

MagiksSlave -> RE: Lying. (11/13/2006 4:44:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aileen68 quote: ORIGINAL: Squeakers 'your no it all attitude' 'your know it all attitude' [:)] And this is why I dont make fun of others spelling!!! makes you look bad when others can point out you spell just as bad!! Thanks Aileen Magik's slave

emdoub -> RE: Lying. (11/13/2006 5:04:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MagiksSlave quote: ORIGINAL: Aileen68 quote: ORIGINAL: Squeakers 'your no it all attitude' 'your know it all attitude' [:)] And this is why I dont make fun of others spelling!!! makes you look bad when others can point out you spell just as bad!! Thanks Aileen Magik's slave With the phrase from Squeakers being single-quoted, it looked intentional to me - a tad mean-spirited perhaps, but certainly not as ironic an error as you'd perhaps like to believe, even if Aileen is having fun with it. Generally, I try to ignore typos and poor English - there are better things to poke fun at. Such as: quote: Im simply stateing my opinion if you agree fine if not thats fine too Im not saying how you feel is wrong I just dont agree. I'm at a loss here - other than matters of taste only, such as "pepperoni is better than sausage on a pizza", how can one disagree while acknowledging that the viewpoint that they're disagreeing with is not wrong? Midnight Confuzzled....

MagiksSlave -> RE: Lying. (11/13/2006 5:22:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: emdoub quote: ORIGINAL: MagiksSlave quote: ORIGINAL: Aileen68 quote: ORIGINAL: Squeakers 'your no it all attitude' 'your know it all attitude' [:)] And this is why I dont make fun of others spelling!!! makes you look bad when others can point out you spell just as bad!! Thanks Aileen Magik's slave With the phrase from Squeakers being single-quoted, it looked intentional to me - a tad mean-spirited perhaps, but certainly not as ironic an error as you'd perhaps like to believe, even if Aileen is having fun with it. Generally, I try to ignore typos and poor English - there are better things to poke fun at. Such as: quote: Im simply stateing my opinion if you agree fine if not thats fine too Im not saying how you feel is wrong I just dont agree. I'm at a loss here - other than matters of taste only, such as "pepperoni is better than sausage on a pizza", how can one disagree while acknowledging that the viewpoint that they're disagreeing with is not wrong? Midnight Confuzzled.... Simple opinions cant be wrong they are opinions not facts!! Just becuase I dont agree doesnt make her wrong! Magik's slave

justheather -> RE: Lying. (11/13/2006 5:32:45 PM)
emdoub: Somehow, lately, there has been a widespread adoption of the notion that "opinions can't be wrong". Not sure how it happened, but we are apparently stuck with it until another equally illogical idea catches on and becomes all-the-rage. Opinions are not all equally valid. Some are downright wrong. I think it began in the political discussions. People started spouting off ideas and backing them up with the "It's my opinion, I can voice any opinion I want." defense. I can say that it is my opinion that the Civil War never happened. I can say that it is my opinion that cats are actually small dogs whose voice boxes have been altered. I can say it is my opinion that the sky is falling. I can say it is my opinion that my neighbor's wife is having an affair. Saying these things are "my opinion" and are "therefore valid" is a really lazy way of putting forth unsubstantiated facts without having to be responsible for their validity or provide any substantiation. It's what we call: lazy. And now it's infected the threads to the point where people think that an opinion can't be right or wrong as long as it is labeled as an opinion.

missturbation -> RE: Lying. (11/13/2006 5:39:29 PM)
I can say that it is my opinion that the Civil War never happened. I can say that it is my opinion that cats are actually small dogs whose voice boxes have been altered. All the things you have stated can be proved wrong. Anything that cannot be proved wrong is an opinion such as i think fat men make better lovers. Can you prove my opinion is wrong? Nope, that makes my opinion valid. can say it is my opinion that the sky is falling. I can say it is my opinion that my neighbor's wife is having an affair. I personally cannot prove either of those to be wrong so to me they are valid opinions. Everything is not as black and white as you have stated here. I personally have never heard anyone say something like the civil war never happened as opinion but i have heard people state such as fact. Fact and opinion are two very different things.

kyraofMists -> RE: Lying. (11/13/2006 6:00:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: justheather emdoub: Somehow, lately, there has been a widespread adoption of the notion that "opinions can't be wrong". Not sure how it happened, but we are apparently stuck with it until another equally illogical idea catches on and becomes all-the-rage. Opinions are not all equally valid. Some are downright wrong. I think it began in the political discussions. People started spouting off ideas and backing them up with the "It's my opinion, I can voice any opinion I want." defense. I can say that it is my opinion that the Civil War never happened. I can say that it is my opinion that cats are actually small dogs whose voice boxes have been altered. I can say it is my opinion that the sky is falling. I can say it is my opinion that my neighbor's wife is having an affair. Saying these things are "my opinion" and are "therefore valid" is a really lazy way of putting forth unsubstantiated facts without having to be responsible for their validity or provide any substantiation. It's what we call: lazy. And now it's infected the threads to the point where people think that an opinion can't be right or wrong as long as it is labeled as an opinion. Thank you heather!! You took the words right out of my mouth. I can't count the number of times I have read something so ludicrous and then weasel their way out of it by "it is just my opinion". I just cringe almost anytime I read an "opinion" that is based on broad generalizations, assumptions and absolutes. Kyra

Squeakers -> RE: Lying. (11/13/2006 6:01:29 PM)
my only error was that I did not quote my 'no' it was meant as a form of irony. I guess I was the only one that got it.

MagiksSlave -> RE: Lying. (11/13/2006 6:04:38 PM)
Heather there is a difference between fact and opinion opinions cant be wrong things that are proven facts on the other hand are not opinions!! Magik's slave

BDSM05478 -> RE: Lying. (11/13/2006 6:14:12 PM)
this is why i try not to have "opinions" about anyone personally; they are really judgements on ones character in the end.

byule -> RE: Lying. (11/13/2006 6:32:17 PM)
I'm sitting her reading this and wondering OK WOW a lot of opinionated people here. But it is all good just goes to show that all in the BDSM community. It shows me that I am interested in a very intelligent community who believes the pen or in this case the keyboard is mightier then the sword. But I bet if swords would of been available there would of been blood with some cases. Anywho Interesting to say the least I willing to bet that the slave who it seems just went threw a very public humiliation never would of even guessed that this was going to be a HOT TOPIC. By the way a great place to bye clothes. So Opinion away people.

happypervert -> RE: Lying. (11/13/2006 6:38:20 PM)
quote: Heather there is a difference between fact and opinion opinions cant be wrong things that are proven facts on the other hand are not opinions!! True. But there are opinions that can be soundly based on facts and there are other opinions that are just idiotic. So if you are happier calling those opinions idiotic instead of wrong, then go ahead, but let's not pretend that this trivial distinction somehow makes idiotic opinions more valid than they would be if they were mistakenly declared "wrong".

sub4hire -> RE: Lying. (11/13/2006 6:48:25 PM)
Just notived this post because pervert responded. I'm sure it has gone way off track to the verge of fighting and name calling by now. However to respond to the original question....which doesn't really appear to be one. Why does your master need ideas on how to punish you? Doesn't he know you to know what you really dislike in life to take away? Why lie to someone? How can you be in any sort of lifestyle relationship when you lie? Never knowing if you can be trusted on any level?

Squeakers -> RE: Lying. (11/13/2006 6:57:14 PM)
quote: I can't count the number of times I have read something so ludicrous and then weasel their way out of it by "it is just my opinion". I just cringe almost anytime I read an "opinion" that is based on broad generalizations, assumptions and absolutes. Thank you what a great quote. There is a big difference between saying 18 would have been too young for me to collar and 18 is too young to collar. The difference being one is a fact the other is not. The way we choose to lead our lives sets us apart from the vanilla world; we are different, we are unique, and I think most of us detest it when someone in the vanilla world tells us that it's wrong to be owned by another or to be punished or controlled. That's their opinion based on their generalizations, assumptions and absolutes and it pisses us off to a degree so why would it be any different coming from someone in our own lifestyle. I was harsh and rude and I won't justify it by saying I'm in a bad mood, or I'm not feeling myself. I wanted to make a point. It's not wrong to express your feelings or thoughts, it's all in how it's presented. I presented my thoughts earlier in a very negative manner and I know I ruffled some feathers. Although, I didn't offer any assistance to the OP, I felt much empathy for her. Personally, I could careless if her post was right or wrong, or if her reasoning was sincere or not, the point is, she got ripped apart for being 18, and because of the short time period she'd been with her Dom and the fact that her Dom even asked her to post in the first place. Every single person began at some point. They began their lives in their roles and they began their lives with a new partner. So what's the guideline before we post and ask questions. Should we all wait a year or two, and just think about being in our roles before we post and ask questions and once we find our one should be wait six months before we announce it and post questions and darn it, if this Dom was incorrect in asking his sub to post what she posted, isn't he allowed to be human and make a mistake?

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Lying. (11/13/2006 8:00:25 PM)
And don't go taking all the credit to the youngsters that they think they know it all. I fully expect people to accuse me of thinking I know it all well into my old age.

MagiksSlave -> RE: Lying. (11/13/2006 8:09:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross And don't go taking all the credit to the youngsters that they think they know it all. I fully expect people to accuse me of thinking I know it all well into my old age. You mean you dont know it all :( darn!!! There goes my hero worship LA!! Magik's slave

AquaticSub -> RE: Lying. (11/13/2006 8:43:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: arkansasheather quote: ORIGINAL: slavejali I just checked heathers profile, she is like 18, maybe her Master is young too..give em a break, thats what I think [;)] age really has nothing to do with it. At 18 I didn't think so either. Your mind will change too.

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