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Najakcharmer -> RE: Male bottoms versus Male submissives- Mistress advice wanted (11/14/2006 5:45:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: flightinthenight I find it ironic, that on several posts the fact of my being black or as the good ole boys politically correct way of speaking African American has been included in their response to my post. I am not African American as I was born in Ireland. I am simply a black, Irishman who firmly believes Women truly are superior to men. This is a serious question. How do you feel about "white supremacy"?

BlkTallFullfig -> RE: Male bottoms versus Male submissives- Mistress advice wanted (11/14/2006 5:45:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: gooddogbenji If you have a black manager at work, how can you do what he says without believing in black superiourity? Makes ya wonder, dunnit? Yours, benji Why has comparing blacks and their consensual or nonconsensual relationships with the wider world become your lastest kink? This is a forum for female dominants WITH A KINK/ propensity toward reigning supreme ( 1 : highest in rank or authority) over their male submissives who agree with said lady's kink... So I fail to see your repeated comparison, and definitely don't find it cute, but hey it is a free country/forum. M

gooddogbenji -> RE: Male bottoms versus Male submissives- Mistress advice wanted (11/14/2006 5:46:01 PM)
That's a big book, if it has 87 positions, 1498 rules, and the definition of a true submissive all on one page. Yours, benji

BlkTallFullfig -> RE: Male bottoms versus Male submissives- Mistress advice wanted (11/14/2006 5:47:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Najakcharmer This is a serious question. How do you feel about "white supremacy"? Plenty of white men/women own consensual black slaves, and what is the problem with that if that is what makes them juicy? M

gooddogbenji -> RE: Male bottoms versus Male submissives- Mistress advice wanted (11/14/2006 5:53:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BlkTallFullfig Why has comparing blacks and their consensual or nonconsensual relationships with the wider world become your lastest kink? This is a forum for female dominants WITH A KINK/ propensity toward reigning supreme ( 1 : highest in rank or authority) over their male submissives who agree with said lady's kink... So I fail to see your repeated comparison, and definitely don't find it cute, but hey it is a free country/forum. M I don't say it to be cute. To me, female superiourity, when seen as "All females are superiour to all males," is the same thing as saying all black people are superiour to all white people, all white people are superiour to all mexicans, all men are superiour to all women, straight people are superiour to gays, thin people to fat, old to young, etc etc.... In the same way, anyone who says that only people who believe in FemSup are true slaves is on the same level to me as someone who says only people who believe in whiteSup are true americans, or (insert any example) These people are, in my opinion, idiots. And I think that by comparing their opinion with a (generally) well discredited theory, they may just see their own idiocy. It has nothing to do with which group I choose. I could start using jews as an example. That's not my point. My point is that, in my books, believing someone is better based on how they were born is stupid no matter how you slice it. Yours, benji

orfunboi -> RE: Male bottoms versus Male submissives- Mistress advice wanted (11/14/2006 5:55:35 PM)
juicy can only mean good things [sm=bust.gif]

BlkTallFullfig -> RE: Male bottoms versus Male submissives- Mistress advice wanted (11/14/2006 5:56:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: gooddogbenji To me, female superiourity, when seen as "All females are superiour to all males," is the same thing as saying all black people are superiour to all white people, all white people are superiour to all mexicans, all men are superiour to all women, straight people are superiour to gays, thin people to fat, old to young, etc etc.... benji It isn't at all the same because in a consensual relationship, we all have choices, and this site is not about taking over the world really... It's about finding people who like to do the crazy shit you like to do, and connecting for short of long term, as long as you both agree to it. It is not the same, never will be. quote: juicy can only mean good things [sm=bust.gif] That's what I'm sayin'. [;)] M

gooddogbenji -> RE: Male bottoms versus Male submissives- Mistress advice wanted (11/14/2006 5:57:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BlkTallFullfig quote: ORIGINAL: Najakcharmer This is a serious question. How do you feel about "white supremacy"? Plenty of white men/women own consensual black slaves, and what is the problem with that if that is what makes them juicy? M It isn't about an individual relationship. It's about people making blanket statements about how "every man is inferiour to every woman." If two people have found each other, kudos! But if, based on their happy relationship, they decide everyone should be that way, then it is a problem. Yours, benji

Najakcharmer -> RE: Male bottoms versus Male submissives- Mistress advice wanted (11/14/2006 5:58:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BlkTallFullfigPlenty of white men/women own consensual black slaves, and what is the problem with that if that is what makes them juicy? M There isn't one. What I was trying to point out is that any form of "supremacy" that judges you either superior or inferior because of a genetic trait is not a good thing. Good human beings and bad human beings, dominants and submissives come in all genders, all races and all colors. There is no fair way to judge everyone of one gender, one race or one color by lumping them all together and saying that everybody in one group is better than everybody in another group. That's why I can't agree with any form of "supremacy" no matter what group is supposed to be supreme.

gooddogbenji -> RE: Male bottoms versus Male submissives- Mistress advice wanted (11/14/2006 6:01:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BlkTallFullfig It isn't at all the same because in a consensual relationship, we all have choices, and this site is not about taking over the world really... It's about finding people who like to do the crazy shit you like to do, and connecting for short of long term, as long as you both agree to it. It is not the same, never will be. M But many people do believe that certain things are the natural order for everyone. No, they don't raise armies and go out to try to conquer other threads (okay, some do) but that's what they believe. If you go on a public forum and announce that all men should be subservient, then expect to debate that. Don't turn around (this is not directed at you) and say "It's just a fantasy anyway, I could never do it." Believing in individual relationships is good, believing it will work for all relationships is not. Yours, benji

BlkTallFullfig -> RE: Male bottoms versus Male submissives- Mistress advice wanted (11/14/2006 6:07:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Najakcharmer What I was trying to point out is that any form of "supremacy" that judges you either superior or inferior because of a genetic trait is not a good thing. Good human beings and bad human beings, dominants and submissives come in all genders, all races and all colors. There is no fair way to judge everyone of one gender, one race or one color by lumping them all together and saying that everybody in one group is better than everybody in another group. That's why I can't agree with any form of "supremacy" no matter what group is supposed to be supreme. Of course I agree with you on the general premise. If we were on an anthropology forum or general site not geared to people with off center desires, I'd be calling these thoughts insane... But this is strictly about kinky relationships between consenting adults, and for that reason, I don't see a problem with anyone anouncing he's lord and master, or a worm... Neither may get my juices flowing, but everyone isn't looking for me either. M

DiurnalVampire -> RE: Male bottoms versus Male submissives- Mistress advice wanted (11/14/2006 6:19:36 PM)
More or less back to the OPs question. Just becasue a submissive male doesnt believe in Female Supremecy does not make him less of a submissive or less of a slave. There is only one female that he has to believe i supreme, and that is his owner. Most do not believe that the entire gender is superior to them, and I would have to agree with them on that. I do state that I personally believe in female superiority, but my belief is limited to wthin my personal relationships. If and when I keep more than one pet of different genders, my females are usualy my alpha pets and my males below them. It is how I choose to keep my family, but it really has little to do with whether or not the pets I have at the time believe that way or not. As I said, the only female they absoultely have to believe is superior is me. Beyond that, how they view the rest of my gender is up to them. I see no reason for my pets to think themselves inferior to an entire gender just becaue they are subs or slaves. Just as I dont expect them to be submissve to every Dominant I know, male or female, just becasue they are dominant. DV

Najakcharmer -> RE: Male bottoms versus Male submissives- Mistress advice wanted (11/14/2006 6:21:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BlkTallFullfig But this is strictly about kinky relationships between consenting adults, and for that reason, I don't see a problem with anyone anouncing he's lord and master, or a worm... Neither may get my juices flowing, but everyone isn't looking for me either. M I think that's the difference between female dominant and female supremacy. The first is about consensual relationships between adults who are oriented that way and choose that lifestyle. The second is about claiming that all females are superior to all males, and that everybody should be female dominant/male submissive.

MistressSassy66 -> RE: Male bottoms versus Male submissives- Mistress advice wanted (11/14/2006 6:38:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DiurnalVampire More or less back to the OPs question. Just becasue a submissive male doesnt believe in Female Supremecy does not make him less of a submissive or less of a slave. There is only one female that he has to believe i supreme, and that is his owner. Most do not believe that the entire gender is superior to them, and I would have to agree with them on that. I do state that I personally believe in female superiority, but my belief is limited to wthin my personal relationships. If and when I keep more than one pet of different genders, my females are usualy my alpha pets and my males below them. It is how I choose to keep my family, but it really has little to do with whether or not the pets I have at the time believe that way or not. As I said, the only female they absoultely have to believe is superior is me. Beyond that, how they view the rest of my gender is up to them. I see no reason for my pets to think themselves inferior to an entire gender just becaue they are subs or slaves. Just as I dont expect them to be submissve to every Dominant I know, male or female, just becasue they are dominant. DV I agree that he only needs to know his Domme is Superior. The same with having a male submissive and bishop,she is My alpha submissive period and not just because she is a Woman (I do believe We are better at some things,I'm sorry but I do) but because she has earned it. I dont think all men should cower just the ones that I am around...LOL...I'm kidding...well sort of.

gooddogbenji -> RE: Male bottoms versus Male submissives- Mistress advice wanted (11/14/2006 6:38:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Najakcharmer I think that's the difference between female dominant and female supremacy. The first is about consensual relationships between adults who are oriented that way and choose that lifestyle. The second is about claiming that all females are superior to all males, and that everybody should be female dominant/male submissive. Thank you..... I have been trying to say exactly that for about 3 days now, and have never succeeded. Maybe you wimmins truly are better than us mens. Yours, benji

MistressSassy66 -> RE: Male bottoms versus Male submissives- Mistress advice wanted (11/14/2006 6:48:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: gooddogbenji quote: ORIGINAL: Najakcharmer I think that's the difference between female dominant and female supremacy. The first is about consensual relationships between adults who are oriented that way and choose that lifestyle. The second is about claiming that all females are superior to all males, and that everybody should be female dominant/male submissive. Thank you..... I have been trying to say exactly that for about 3 days now, and have never succeeded. Maybe you wimmins truly are better than us mens. Yours, benji You think maybe just maybe??? [:D]

MasterFireMaam -> RE: Male bottoms versus Male submissives- Mistress advice wanted (11/14/2006 6:56:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: flightinthenight Hello Mistresses, I sincerely hope this post finds you all smiling and doing well. I am writing today out of confusion and perplexity. I belong to several online forums, and Lifestyle message boards and would appreciate the replies of the Women Mistresses here. For the most part the sentiment of Female Superioriety is echoed by most all of the male submissives on these forums. My confusion lies in the fact that the same sentiment ceases to exist here at collarme.com. Simply put, do you feel many of the male submissives on collarme.com are not truly submissive, but in fact bottoms ? I believe in a difference, do You? The reason I say this is the fact that having been in the Lifestyle for the past several years, I personally have met and spoke to many true male submissives. The reason I am questioning the majority of "male submissives" upon this site is the absolute common bond all male subs share. That common bond is the absolute undenialable belief in Women being completely superior to the male race. It is the one commonality that the hundreds of male subs I have met in person and online have shared and elated in believing. Then there is collarme.com, where the sentiment is literally polar opposite of most everywhere else, whether online or at Lifestyle parties. Perhaps I am absolutely wrong, I have been numerous times before. I did not just fall off the gullible truck, so I thought I would ask the fine, beautiful dominant Women on this post their thoughts and opinions. Thank you Ladies for instilling the desire within me and all real male submissives to wake every morning, rise , only for the hope to fall to our knees and worship at your beautiful feet. Have a great day, whatever you do, do it with a:) ! These are YOUR opinions about the common bond of all male submissives. I have to say that I feel your logic is based on a small input. If the common bond between all true male submissives is the belief in Female Superiority, how do you explain the existance gay male submissives? Obviously, they do not believe in FS. Since they don't, your premise must be wrong. And, you're assuming that all Female Dominants and all male submissives believe in FS. Many of us do not. Some Women such as myself, believe we are in control of the relationship and make the final decisions, but that our male submissives come to us as equal adults who choose to turn over authority to us. My guess is that the reason you feel this is a common bond in all the groups you've been to, real time and online, is that you chose groups who feel the same way you do. It's like saying the common bond between scientists is physics...having only attended physics conventions. Get out more. Go to national events. You'll meet a wide variety of people there. Having the beliefs you have are not wrong. Expecting other to feel the same and complaining when they don't is, however, not the best choice of behavior. Master Fire

gooddogbenji -> RE: Male bottoms versus Male submissives- Mistress advice wanted (11/14/2006 6:58:54 PM)
Wow. So meny smrt wimmins hear tonite i feel al out of plase. i am not wurthy. urs benji

LotusSong -> RE: Male bottoms versus Male submissives- Mistress advice wanted (11/14/2006 7:00:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: flightinthenight I want to hear from them whether there's a differnence between male bottoms and male submissives. Male slaves are involved for what they an give. Male bottoms are involved for what they can get.

empresschaos -> RE: Male bottoms versus Male submissives- Mistress advice wanted (11/14/2006 7:04:23 PM)
What about female submissives, then? Must they believe in male superiority? I think that submissiveness is a frame of mind, and a framework for living; the domme that the sub is submissive to is superior to him not because of her breasts, but because of their relationship. imho, anyway.

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