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adaddysgirl -> Contracts (11/14/2006 5:36:01 PM)

i came across a term the other day that i have not seen used in quite some time.  Contracts.  Do people still use those?  Do you have them in your relationship?  Have they worked as you had planned?  Just curious  [&:]
 
Daddysgirl



Kalira -> RE: Contracts (11/14/2006 5:46:59 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: adaddysgirl

i came across a term the other day that i have not seen used in quite some time.  Contracts.  Do people still use those?  Do you have them in your relationship?  Have they worked as you had planned?  Just curious  [&:]
 
Daddysgirl

Master and I do not use a written contract. Both of us place our trust in the words that were spoken between us.

[:)]



charismagirrl -> RE: Contracts (11/14/2006 5:51:03 PM)

my Daddy/Master and i have a contract and although it wasn't a negotiation type thing it mostly just spells out what is expected and that he owns me and what my duties are and that he takes responsibility for me. It's really beautiful and he says that we are "Honour bound" to hold up to our ends of the contract.

Incidentally, he also has a small little piece of paper in his wallet that he considers more the "real contract" that just says "i give my body completely to Daddy" (or something like that) and is signed by me. (this was signed before we did the more elaborate one)..Although the contract goes far and beyond the use of my body this little one is kind of cute.



LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Contracts (11/14/2006 6:18:40 PM)

You're right, it's been three months since we had a serious discussion about them here.

http://www.collarchat.com/m_545721/mpage_1/key_contracts/tm.htm#546253
Contracts- who uses them?

http://www.collarchat.com/m_537964/mpage_1/key_contract/tm.htm#537987
contracts (5)

http://www.collarchat.com/m_507069/mpage_1/key_CONTRACTS/tm.htm#507258
contracts

http://www.collarchat.com/m_484623/mpage_1/key_contracts/tm.htm#485005
contracts, necessary or not?

http://www.collarchat.com/tm.asp?m=425700&mpage=1&key=contracts&#425768
bdsm contracts

http://www.collarchat.com/m_15441/mpage_1/key_contract/tm.htm#15441
Master/slave contract

http://www.collarchat.com/m_21514/mpage_1/key_contract/tm.htm#21514
CONTRACT

http://www.collarchat.com/m_1001/mpage_1/key_contracts/tm.htm#1001
Contracts for servitude the good, the bad, And why is it so different between Masters n Mistresses?

http://www.collarchat.com/m_1108/mpage_1/key_contracts/tm.htm#1108
Contracts?

http://www.collarchat.com/m_17858/mpage_1/key_contracts/tm.htm#17858
Should slaves be able to submit to legally binding slave contracts?

http://www.collarchat.com/m_20389/mpage_1/key_contracts/tm.htm#20389
Enforcable "slave" contracts

http://www.collarchat.com/m_22380/mpage_1/key_contracts/tm.htm#22380
Contracts (AGAIN *LOL*)

http://www.collarchat.com/m_24502/mpage_1/key_contracts/tm.htm#24502
Breaking COntracts

http://www.collarchat.com/m_34466/mpage_1/key_contracts/tm.htm#34466
Contracts for sub

http://www.collarchat.com/m_46146/mpage_1/key_contracts/tm.htm#46146
Contracts (2)

http://www.collarchat.com/m_82470/mpage_1/key_contracts/tm.htm#82470
Service "contracts" (no it isn't about legality)

http://www.collarchat.com/m_93072/mpage_1/key_contracts/tm.htm#93072
slave contracts

http://www.collarchat.com/m_96407/mpage_1/key_contracts/tm.htm#96407
Contracts, again...

http://www.collarchat.com/m_111463/mpage_1/key_contracts/tm.htm#111463
written contracts?

http://www.collarchat.com/m_111845/mpage_1/key_contracts/tm.htm#111845
The question of written contracts

http://www.collarchat.com/m_162840/mpage_1/key_contracts/tm.htm#162840
merging wedding vows and Ds contracts

http://www.collarchat.com/m_212413/mpage_1/key_contracts/tm.htm#212413
Contracts (3)

http://www.collarchat.com/m_278323/mpage_1/key_contracts/tm.htm#278323
Dom/sub written contracts

http://www.collarchat.com/m_287421/mpage_1/key_contracts/tm.htm#287421
slave contracts, good examples needed

http://www.collarchat.com/m_71935/mpage_1/key_contract/tm.htm#71935
D/s contract



Celeste43 -> RE: Contracts (11/14/2006 6:20:21 PM)

We don't have one in the way it is commonly used. But before we first played, he typed up a letter listing my hard limits so I could be sure he understood what I couldn't do.



MasterFireMaam -> RE: Contracts (11/14/2006 7:04:46 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: adaddysgirl

i came across a term the other day that i have not seen used in quite some time.  Contracts.  Do people still use those?  Do you have them in your relationship?  Have they worked as you had planned?  Just curious  [&:]
 
Daddysgirl


Yes.
Yes.
Of course not. Nothing ever works as planned...it's a mistake to think it will.

Master Fire



sweetnurseBBW -> RE: Contracts (11/14/2006 7:06:41 PM)

I have used them in the past but currently Master and I do not. I have friends that still use contracts.



MistressSassy66 -> RE: Contracts (11/14/2006 7:12:04 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: adaddysgirl

i came across a term the other day that i have not seen used in quite some time.  Contracts.  Do people still use those?  Do you have them in your relationship?  Have they worked as you had planned?  Just curious  [&:]
 
Daddysgirl


I have a thing its more like a questionaire that they sign at the end.
It covers just about everything and what it doesnt I discuss during the first meeting.
For the most part they have worked as planned.
Nothing in life is certain except death and taxes as they say...



DiurnalVampire -> RE: Contracts (11/14/2006 7:14:49 PM)

Angel and I have discussed them. We dont really find much use for one, but the idea has been bounced around as a way to spell out expectations and limits without question.

DV



adaddysgirl -> RE: Contracts (11/14/2006 7:35:20 PM)

Hmmm...7 responses so far and no 2 alike.  That is pretty cool  [&:]
 
(Plus LA.....i should have known....lol)
 
It's funny though.  When i first started exploring D/s, that was a very common term.  And if i recall correctly, there was even an online version of one which could be printed off.  Just thought it odd that nobody seemed to mention them anymore.  But i guess they can be a useful tool for those so inclined.  Interesting  [:)]
 
DG



charismagirrl -> RE: Contracts (11/14/2006 7:42:36 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: adaddysgirl

  And if i recall correctly, there was even an online version of one which could be printed off.  Just thought it odd that nobody seemed to mention them anymore.  But i guess they can be a useful tool for those so inclined.  Interesting  [:)]
 
DG


There are quite a few different versions online. When we did ours i looked at all of them that i could find and grabbed the parts that pertained to us and then reworded them to fit us more. Then after i did that my Daddy added parts to it pertaining to conduct in private,public and also punishments....At the bottom i added that the contract was non-transferable and if something should happen to our relationship (God forbid) that i would be free again otherwise the contract would be only between us..



QuietDom -> RE: Contracts (11/14/2006 10:34:59 PM)

I thought the idea of a slave "contract" (scare quotes, since it has no genuine legal validity whatsoever) was rather silly.  Then I read Miss Abernathy's book, which discussed in some detail exactly why such a document can be appealing and reassuring to a sub -- now I rather like the idea.



adaddysgirl -> RE: Contracts (11/15/2006 5:32:53 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: QuietDom

I thought the idea of a slave "contract" (scare quotes, since it has no genuine legal validity whatsoever) was rather silly.  Then I read Miss Abernathy's book, which discussed in some detail exactly why such a document can be appealing and reassuring to a sub -- now I rather like the idea.


Miss Abernathy's book?  Never heard of it.  What is that about?
 
DG



Elegant -> RE: Contracts (11/15/2006 5:41:40 AM)

We do have a written document that I prefer to call a 'Covenant': a promise, a pledge, a solemn agreement. Many things have been modified in the eight years since we created the Covenant. It's a living document.



QuietDom -> RE: Contracts (11/15/2006 6:38:45 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: adaddysgirl

quote:

ORIGINAL: QuietDom

I thought the idea of a slave "contract" (scare quotes, since it has no genuine legal validity whatsoever) was rather silly.  Then I read Miss Abernathy's book, which discussed in some detail exactly why such a document can be appealing and reassuring to a sub -- now I rather like the idea.


Miss Abernathy's book?  Never heard of it.  What is that about?
 
DG


Abernathy, Christina; Miss Abernathy's Concise Slave Training Manual; Greenery Press, 1996.  I recommend it.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Elegant

We do have a written document that I prefer to call a 'Covenant': a promise, a pledge, a solemn agreement. Many things have been modified in the eight years since we created the Covenant. It's a living document.


And I like this term much better than "slave contract."  I'd been intending to use the term "Articles of Indenture" but now I'll have to consider whether I like "Covenant" even more.

(When it doesn't refer to a genocidal legion of alien religious fanatics, of course, for those of us who enjoyed 'Halo.' [:D])



raiken -> RE: Contracts (11/15/2006 6:49:20 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Elegant

We do have a written document that I prefer to call a 'Covenant': a promise, a pledge, a solemn agreement. Many things have been modified in the eight years since we created the Covenant. It's a living document.


A covenant...that is nice, i think that would fit with my personal perspective as well.  The term contract, for me personally, smacks of that clinical less personal design.  (nothing against others who use them) i am just not a contract gal...too business and less personal for me.  The word covenant in my mind, conveys a deeper intimacy.
 
OH and damn LA! You truly ARE the link queen!



ownedgirlie -> RE: Contracts (11/15/2006 7:23:34 AM)

Master and I don't have a written contract.  There was never a need.  It would be pretty short, anyway.  He speaks, I obey. Sign here.. :)



TemptingNviceSub -> RE: Contracts (11/15/2006 8:45:50 AM)

IMO..when you are getting to know each other those things you discuss and agree upon are the contract.Does it need to be formalized and written?..possibly nice if you think miscommunication break down is possible.But personally I do not think hard limits are easily forgotten,and as a relationship develops and trust is gained then anything that comes after first negotiation is mutually agreed upon and also then taken into account. So to think said contract will cover any and all contingencies is simply unrealistic.But I am sure if relationship becomes long standing it is a nice piece of paper to reminisce over...Tempting



LordODiscipline -> RE: Contracts (11/15/2006 9:29:05 AM)

Never used them - never will.
 
~J
 
quote:

ORIGINAL: adaddysgirl

i came across a term the other day that i have not seen used in quite some time.  Contracts.  Do people still use those?  Do you have them in your relationship?  Have they worked as you had planned?  Just curious  [&:]
 
Daddysgirl



meatcleaver -> RE: Contracts (11/15/2006 10:03:58 AM)

Why bother with a contract that can't legally be enforced, it's just fantasy but then again, I suppose owning somebody is too.



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