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mnottertail -> RE: An exceptional dom....advice needed please. (11/15/2006 9:28:13 AM)

Are you trying to turn this into a fatboy thread?

Spermwhale Dom




RUpainsmith -> RE: An exceptional dom....advice needed please. (11/15/2006 9:39:34 AM)

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ORIGINAL: IvyP

well......sounds like you maybe arent really ready to be sub....an experenced Master can see thru anything to your real soul.....you choose to let him go, in turn you choose to have control...maybe rethink reasons why you decided to be a sub.....maybe a domme better suits you...


then happy i to love, and am beloved....where i can not remove, not be removed


I'd have to disagree with this statement.  To say that only the Dom has the ability to end a relationship is callous and presumptuous; in any relationship, kink or vanilla, there can be circumstances beyond the control of either individual that can make the continuation of the relationship impossible or detrimental to their lives.

However, there is an important element to this relationship worth regarding:

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ORIGINAL: FiestyFi

I've tried before, but he seems so distant- (which I rightly understand).
 


While I'm happy that you seem to have improved those aspects of your life that were getting in the way, for lack of a better phrase, of the relationship, perhaps the way it went down is still fresh in the Doms mind, and he sees a flight risk.  Talk to him about the possibility of resuming relations, and if he's against it, then no loss, you'd regret not trying more.

Adam




LotusSong -> RE: An exceptional dom....advice needed please. (11/15/2006 9:50:27 AM)

I'd send him your OP.




MstrssPassion -> RE: An exceptional dom....advice needed please. (11/15/2006 10:01:02 AM)

If you really do have your life together now, contact him & see what happens.

If you still have lose ends... don't.

What isn't fair is to continue to jerk someone around if you are going to keep using LIFE as an excuse to prevent you from living life.





MistressSassy66 -> RE: An exceptional dom....advice needed please. (11/15/2006 11:50:11 AM)

On one hand I agree with contacting Him...but on the other with Him already being distant you may be setting yourself up for more hurt.
But Life is too short to not know for sure...So I agree with contacting Him,I also think that someone had a great idea writing to Him what you wrote here,it may help Him understand why you broke it off.




Caitriona -> RE: An exceptional dom....advice needed please. (11/15/2006 1:54:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MistressSassy66
On one hand I agree with contacting Him...but on the other with Him already being distant you may be setting yourself up for more hurt.
But Life is too short to not know for sure...So I agree with contacting Him,I also think that someone had a great idea writing to Him what you wrote here,it may help Him understand why you broke it off.


I agree with you Mistress Sassy. 

To the OP:  For me it would come down to the question - Which do I think I will be harder for me in the long run; telling him and getting an answer I don't like, or not telling him at all.

I say send him your original post. 

Good luck to you.




jdtallfem -> RE: An exceptional dom....advice needed please. (11/15/2006 2:14:18 PM)

Send him your post.  As someone who is consistently dealing with some subs who are remarkably short on communication skills, it's wonderful to discover why someone flakes out.  You never know.  He just might take on a  flight risk.




CreativeDominant -> RE: An exceptional dom....advice needed please. (11/15/2006 5:35:01 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Celeste43

If he really was the right person for you then, you would have felt safe telling him the truth about what was going on in your life and allowing him to decide whether he wanted to deal with your problems or not. The fact of the matter is that you ended the relationship because you were afraid of his rejection. The fact that you considered him rejecting you to be the most likely scenario shows that either you weren't ready for a relationship, and may still not be if  you haven't dealt with this, or that you were picking up on cues he gave off that allowed you to know he wouldn't ride out a bad patch.


Have to disagree with you on this one, Celeste.  Your answer makes it sound as if something was wrong with him, despite the OP's post to the contrary.  He could well have been the right person for her and her own issues kept her from giving him the chance to decide whether or not he wanted to deal with the problems she was facing.  Even if he had not wanted to, that would not have been on him...it simply could have been a case where he would have chosen not to be a white knight.  But...by the OP's admission, she did not even give him the chance to say yea or nay.  It does not have to be a case of gut instinct always being right...if that were the case, there would not be any broken relationships throughout this country.  We'd have all known when we had found the absolutely right one.  Yet...how many women neglect the good guys courting them and who want to lift them up to take up with the "bad boy" despite everything he does to drag them down.  Was their gut instinct right?  What about those wives whose husbands dump them...after years of being faithful, bearing and raising their children, and being a loving, intimate partner...for the young, pretty, well-stacked "ms. thang" who dresses in Victoria's Secret (bought with his credit card, of course) and never complains about the kids (she doesn't have to, the wife has them), the struggle for money (she doesn't have to, he's already earned it), etc.?  Was this a case of the wife giving off clues that she wasn't up for a threesome or for sharing her husband and so he just decided it was easier to reject and dump her rather than going to her with his inner turmoil?  Or was there something that was possibly HIS issue?
The idea of rejection of someone because of gut instinct (cuz we all know how right that can always be, right?) or because they are giving off clues...without giving that person a chance to prove us wrong also reminds me of the Passive Denial thread, only with a different scenario in place.  Here is a case where a submissive...though I am unclear whether she was his submissive yet or not...chose to take what she was going through "inside" herself and denied him the opportunity to prove her wrong in her feelings about whether or not he was what she hoped.

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If you need closure, then certainly send him a letter explaining what was going on and what he had done to make you believe he wouldn't have been there for you. Next, write out a list of all of his exceptional qualities and add to that list all the other things you need in a partner. And keep the list in mind when meeting new people.


Take him to task for what wasn't there in HIM?  Again, that makes an assumption...contrary to the OPs post...that she could not possibly have been at fault for not being communicative or honest with him or giving him a chance to demonstrate those qualities that he should have had and may have had but did not get the chance to show.  Or the assumption that it could not have been her own issues that had nothing to do with him but rather from past baggage according to her thread but rather some failing on his part.  Fear of rejection is her issue, not his.  I have a friend who fights that fear because of what others have done to her.  She also has a tendency to pick the bad boys and has been treated like fecal material by them.  But she recognizes that the fear...and the waiting for the other shoe to drop with someone who is a "good guy"...is her issue. 





MasterFireMaam -> RE: An exceptional dom....advice needed please. (11/15/2006 11:05:10 PM)

Before you contact him...have you worked through what is was that made you push him away to begin with? If not, you need to...it's not fair to put him through it again, especially with the chances of you running again.

Master Fire




MasterFireMaam -> RE: An exceptional dom....advice needed please. (11/15/2006 11:11:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: IvyP
an experenced Master can see thru anything to your real soul.

Put me on a pedestal and all you'll see is my ass.

quote:

maybe a domme better suits you...

Are you really implying that a Domme isn't as good as a Master? *blank, unbelieving stare* Perhaps I'm just pissy and I've read this wrong.

Master Fire




SirDaniel -> RE: An exceptional dom....advice needed please. (11/15/2006 11:21:14 PM)

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ORIGINAL: sub4hire

I'd respond to him once more.  With this sentiment.
"He has been the only person who has had any kind of hold over me, and I just couldn't get enough off him. Things were going so well, we talked constantly, and even about meeting up one day. Yet at the same time as meeting this truly wonderful dom, I was going through the worst time in my life, everything around me was crumbling, and I was powerless to stop any of it. I was scared to wake up, and I was scared to go to bed. I was a complete zombie. I didn't want him to see me as this person, so I put up my barriers, no one was coming in. I convinced myself it was the only thing I could do.
In this state I decided to end it with him, it wasn't because I wanted too, it was because I had too. That was the ultimate difference, I had no choice. I know I'm not explaining things very well, its something so private, something that not even my family knows, something I've hidden from the world for years. "

 
If you had a connection he will understand.  Forget the chat room logic here about you not being a submissive.  It is up for him to decide, not any of us. 
 
Even in the end if he decides you are not right for him.  You will still know in your heart you tried.  Failed but at least you will have tried.  You will have resolution.   If you fail you move on and make it a lesson learned.
Good Luck




Damn girl you stole my reply before  I could post it..

With such a great answer, all I can say is ditto.





bandit25 -> RE: An exceptional dom....advice needed please. (11/16/2006 2:41:40 AM)

Definitely contact him again.  Speak from your heart.  We are all people here.  Sometimes we have baggage that we don't want to impose upon anyone.  As far as him being a Master and all that...well, he wasn't your Master at the time and no matter how much of a connection you felt you had made with him, your baggage is your baggage.  I think you acted admirably...prolly what I would have done myself.

You have nothing to lose.  Follow your heart.




FiestyFi -> RE: An exceptional dom....advice needed please. (11/24/2006 2:39:29 PM)

Wow, thanks for all your wonderful responses. I couldn't believe that my little newbie post would recieve such a strong welcome. You've all made me feel at home here.

I did what I felt was right and did send him a message similar to my post.

Now I just have to wait and see. 

I guess if I hear nothing then I know where I stand, such a sad shame tho, miss him greatly, just hope he gives me another chance, this time I will do everything and more to please him.

I will keep you all posted. Thank you once again for all your replies.

Fiestyfi xx 




Renorei -> RE: An exceptional dom....advice needed please. (11/24/2006 3:04:09 PM)

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quote:

maybe a domme better suits you...

Are you really implying that a Domme isn't as good as a Master? *blank, unbelieving stare* Perhaps I'm just pissy and I've read this wrong.

Master Fire




I too, am offended. 




SwPuno -> RE: An exceptional dom....advice needed please. (11/25/2006 12:10:02 AM)

quote:

quote:

maybe a domme better suits you...


Are you really implying that a Domme isn't as good as a Master? *blank, unbelieving stare* Perhaps I'm just pissy and I've read this wrong.

Master Fire


My interpretation of the person's statement was they were saying if the OP could not give up control to the guy then maybe the OP was/is more suited to becoming a domme than a sub.  Not saying I agree, that's just the way I interpreted the comment.






FiestyFi -> RE: An exceptional dom....advice needed please. (4/20/2007 8:27:29 AM)

So I took all your advice. I told him. Needless to say he isn't that exceptional. Hes just the same as the others. Apparently my feelings for him are "imaginary" I've never been so insulted. I've never told any other person how much I care about them in my life. It wasn't easy and it wasn't something I decided to do lightly.  I just cannot believe they could say such a thing.

If they are reading this, and rubbing their hands with glee that "I cannot survive without them" then they are wrong. I've got over a lot worse than this. To think I was even prepared to share something with this person that I've not told any of my family,that I felt I could share with him because he was that special to me.

How wrong I was.




sublizzie -> RE: An exceptional dom....advice needed please. (4/20/2007 8:33:02 AM)

Sometimes when you are in a really bad place there will be someone who seems to be perfect that you can be who you wish you could be in the rest of your life. They are like an emotional oasis. I've learned that they usually aren't as wonderful as I thought once I've gotten through the bad places in my life. But I've also learned to appreciate the needed respite they provided from the other parts of my life.

Appreciate the chance you had to be "normal" during a very unnormal part of your life and let it go. You heal faster that way.




ONEDEMANDINGMSTR -> RE: An exceptional dom....advice needed please. (4/20/2007 8:45:17 AM)

At least now, you 'know'. I'm sorry things turned out so badly. But as you said, " he isn't that exceptional".
There are others who can accept you as you are and will be more understanding, in the long run. My best to you.

DAN




losttreasure -> RE: An exceptional dom....advice needed please. (4/20/2007 9:16:26 AM)

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ORIGINAL: FiestyFi

So I took all your advice. I told him. Needless to say he isn't that exceptional. Hes just the same as the others. Apparently my feelings for him are "imaginary" I've never been so insulted. I've never told any other person how much I care about them in my life. It wasn't easy and it wasn't something I decided to do lightly.  I just cannot believe they could say such a thing.

If they are reading this, and rubbing their hands with glee that "I cannot survive without them" then they are wrong. I've got over a lot worse than this. To think I was even prepared to share something with this person that I've not told any of my family,that I felt I could share with him because he was that special to me.

How wrong I was.



I'm really curious... did it take five months for you to tell him, or five months for him to get back to you? 

Or has he strung you along for five months of chat only to end it this way?




WhiplashSmile -> RE: An exceptional dom....advice needed please. (4/20/2007 12:33:02 PM)

I know if I was him, I'd dearly appreciate and value a full explaination and in actually knowing how you honestly think and feel. 




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