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slavemaia -> RE: Under Protection (11/17/2006 1:48:10 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Arpig

Because the one doing the protecting likes to get a little on the side without having to commit to an actual relationship.


Are you giving your secrets away? i've never experienced that.



AquaticSub -> RE: Under Protection (11/17/2006 1:53:57 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Rover

Online protection?  Locate the little red "X" in the upper right hand corner of your computer screen.  Click on it whenever you feel the need for protection.
 
John


I assumed the OP was talking about being under the protection of someone you know in real life and this protection was mentioned on their online profiles.



gardenbluebird -> RE: Under Protection (11/17/2006 5:55:48 PM)

I have never had a protector in the past.  Did not feel that I needed or wanted one.  I've been around the block a few times and I am no weakling or dummy.

However, I just had a terrible experience and it became clear to me that I needed to learn additional skills to keep myself safe.  My protector is a former Dom whom I have known r/t for years.  His profession is training private investigators, security, weapons and martial arts.  He will remain my protector and teacher (but not my Dom or play partner) while I learn more skills.

What he is doing for me defines a what a good protector should do.




MagiksSlave -> RE: Under Protection (11/17/2006 6:21:03 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Lenis

Oooh, thank you!  I'll look at those.  I fail at using the search command properly.  Or perhaps my query was too specific. 


I fail at useing it properly too!!! But the again I think that CM is hounted and just hates me so it dont wana give me the things Im looking for!!! LOL

The protection thing.. well many think its a crock some think its good because it is easier to get taken advantage of as a sub.. me Im keeping my opinion to myself whenever I give my opinion I get yelled at here!!! so [:'(][:'(][:'(][:'(]

Magik's slave



slavejali -> RE: Under Protection (11/17/2006 6:58:27 PM)

I'm under the protection of Master (he's a 4th degree blackbelt). He said he is the only one allowed to hurt me [:D]



MagiksSlave -> RE: Under Protection (11/17/2006 7:05:56 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: slavejali

I'm under the protection of Master (he's a 4th degree blackbelt). He said he is the only one allowed to hurt me [:D]


Thats funny Master holds the same thing true Im not even aloud to hurt me LOL

Magik's slave



theRose4U -> RE: Under Protection (11/17/2006 7:58:02 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Arpig

Because the one doing the protecting likes to get a little on the side without having to commit to an actual relationship.


Or is a newbie trying to make themselves look better and the dom/me is also them



LordODiscipline -> RE: Under Protection (11/17/2006 8:28:32 PM)

It does not "really" occur in real life..
I mean -
 
There is no real need to "protect someone".. any more than there would be if someone was dating another in the traditional vanilla way.
 
But, it makes some of the more romantic of our ilk (and, the association in this instance is third cousin's second time removed from the family because of that one instance during Thanksgiving with Aunt Mildred's dog in the pantry) feel as though they are performing a public service for the local (or, long distance) dense damsel in distress...
 
In other words - they are both mildly delusional and role playing their asses off in order to fulfill some innate (and, Nate is really pissed) need.
 
I (personally) do not subscribe (as though this were not abundantly obvious already) to the tenet that a grown person would need someone (especially on line) to "protect them" in some vague and insubstantial way and/or to screen the people who are allowed to speak to them like (and, here we go again) Aunt Mildred protecting the virginity of the in heat homecoming queen from St. Athanasius's Girls's Preperatory School who has a sack full of condoms and a belly full of gin.
 
Anyhow - I have poked enough fun at these poor folks and am ready to really enjoy the responses now.
 
Sincerely:
 
Aunt Mildred's Dog.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lenis

Hello!  I'm new, sort of, but I thought of a topic that confused me.

I've read a few profiles that stated that the person in question was under the protection of so and so.  I'd heard of it before in say, roleplaying games online, etc but I didn't honestly think that it occured in real life.  Is this a common thing?  And why would a normal adult person need to be under another person's protection?

~Lenis



MagiksSlave -> RE: Under Protection (11/17/2006 8:47:07 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LordODiscipline

It does not "really" occur in real life..
I mean -
 
There is no real need to "protect someone".. any more than there would be if someone was dating another in the traditional vanilla way.
 
But, it makes some of the more romantic of our ilk (and, the association in this instance is third cousin's second time removed from the family because of that one instance during Thanksgiving with Aunt Mildred's dog in the pantry) feel as though they are performing a public service for the local (or, long distance) dense damsel in distress...
 
In other words - they are both mildly delusional and role playing their asses off in order to fulfill some innate (and, Nate is really pissed) need.
 
I (personally) do not subscribe (as though this were not abundantly obvious already) to the tenet that a grown person would need someone (especially on line) to "protect them" in some vague and insubstantial way and/or to screen the people who are allowed to speak to them like (and, here we go again) Aunt Mildred protecting the virginity of the in heat homecoming queen from St. Athanasius's Girls's Preperatory School who has a sack full of condoms and a belly full of gin.
 
Anyhow - I have poked enough fun at these poor folks and am ready to really enjoy the responses now.
 
Sincerely:
 
Aunt Mildred's Dog.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lenis

Hello!  I'm new, sort of, but I thought of a topic that confused me.

I've read a few profiles that stated that the person in question was under the protection of so and so.  I'd heard of it before in say, roleplaying games online, etc but I didn't honestly think that it occured in real life.  Is this a common thing?  And why would a normal adult person need to be under another person's protection?

~Lenis



I never thought Id say this but you are more confuseing then Ron!!!

Magik's slave



patina -> RE: Under Protection (11/17/2006 9:02:18 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: KatyLied

Because subs are helpless and need assistance in navigating the bad world. 

[&:]




I would resent your remark however; I think you don't really mean it the way it sounds.  The majority of us subs/slaves are not helpless we work very hard mentally and physically to provide a level of comfort and peace for our Masters.  If we did not, they would have no use for us.  I do not need protection, I can take care of myself.  I have managed to get myself out of what ever messes I got myself into.  I have a few times listed myself under consideration, when I was considering if I wanted to accept this or that Dom and move any further toward being his slave.  Thankfully I have relized these were only wanna be Doms, Fakers out to get freebie thrills.  When I refused they got mad and usually they started calling me names. That delete button and block button is used a lot with me now.  Sometimes I get mean and play them a while.  I figure they deserve it.      


Patina    



mnottertail -> RE: Under Protection (11/17/2006 9:13:46 PM)

I actually thought the Lord was cogent, simple and straightforward in his post, and I gotta tell you I agree with him in this case, although I believe he will also agree that we don't rubber stamp each other, and in fact have many differing viewpoints..

I really don't think this shit is as confusing as it is made out to be.

Ron 



MagiksSlave -> RE: Under Protection (11/17/2006 9:21:44 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

I actually thought the Lord was cogent, simple and straightforward in his post, and I gotta tell you I agree with him in this case, although I believe he will also agree that we don't rubber stamp each other, and in fact have many differing viewpoints..

I really don't think this shit is as confusing as it is made out to be.

Ron 


heh I didnt mean what you say is confusing its how you say it.. I just dont follow.. you could have totaly different things to say yet you both confuse me :) then again I confuse easy like!!!

Magik's slave



demistress -> RE: Under Protection (11/17/2006 9:25:11 PM)

I have one slavegirl who is under my guidance and protection.  She is new to BDSM and slavery, and I do not offer collars lightly.  In the meantime, she IS a slave, and while she is not a doormat, she does tend to be OVERLY obliging.  Now when we are a group function she now has the easy line of "I must ask Mistress".  The more I know her, the more I feel I am likely to offer her a full collar, but we had an instant camaraderie and connection, and wanted to allow that to develope naturally without the pressure of a collar looming, but also while having the fact that we did have a burgeoning relationship both recognized and acknowledged by our kinky social circle.  I also will not offer her a collar unless I feel it is both of our best interest to do so, I do not feel like I am manipulating her, nor do I feel this is reflective of my lack of commitment, but rather the true seriousness with which I regard collaring and ownership.  At any rate, she wears a token of my protection, and it is generally accepted and acknowledged that any requests of her are to be addressed to me.  Generally, for now, I will allow her to make her own choices, but there is the nice buffer there where if she's uncomfortable turning someone down, but even less comfortable playing with them, she asks me a certain way and I tell her she is not allowed to play with that person.



lchristym -> RE: Under Protection (11/18/2006 6:35:07 AM)

Hello,
Maybe I read too much history, even the slaves 200 + years ago were not doormats. They had to use their minds to carry out the Masters orders. There were head slaves that made sure the work got done. These slaves were only victims because they got captured by slave traders and a system of government that allowed non-consensual slave status. Masters with many slaves would find it hard to micro manage them all if they were all doormats.

I stand by what I said:

"If they are they need to take a good hard look at themselves and figure out what they need in life in general before they go on with this lifestyle. Emotional and mental baggage will not magically disappear just because you have a collar. You have to face it and deal with it, you are no good to anyone until you do."

If someone chooses to be a doormat and victim slave, then they shouldn't cry when they find the abuser. Someone with this much emotional and mental baggage is what gives the religious right ammunition these lifestyles are dangerous and shouldn't be allowed. Later. Be safe and well, have fun,
chris



Padriag -> RE: Under Protection (11/18/2006 7:02:30 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: toservez

I am sorry I appear snotty today.

:: hands you a tissue ::

Personally, I found it refreshingly honest.



bandit25 -> RE: Under Protection (11/18/2006 7:10:30 AM)

MagiksSlave, you really shouldn't take what others say so seriously.  Hey, we're all just words on a screen.  You don't even know if there are really any people behind those words.  I know for a fact that Ron is a bot and an evil one at that! 

In case you hadn't noticed, just about everyone on these boards is quite opinionated (not that that is a bad thing) and they all like to have their opinions heard.  I more or less agree with kyra on her assessment.  At times you seem (notice I said seem) to make some rather broad generalizations.  When that happens, you will notice that everyone rushes out to "correct" you.  Don't sweat it.



Aileen68 -> RE: Under Protection (11/18/2006 7:38:29 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

Despite what I've always said, not until this thread have I ACTUALLY seen someone SHOUT "Not a doormat!"

It's good to have solid proof now that people do, in fact, feel a need to shout it.


See all of the mental pleasures this place has to offer.  It's just never ending....



spankmepink11 -> RE: Under Protection (11/18/2006 9:21:34 AM)

To me, the idea that one must need   another to "protect" them implies that:
A) single  submissives are all weak , mindless,  fragile beings that have no sense of judgement, nor free will , and
B) that Dominants are all big bad wolves preying on said weak fragile creatures otherwise known as the submissive.

I also  agree wholeheartedly with LordandMasters post.

I'm also of the opinion that self proclamied "protectors, mentors, trainers, in many cases are the real predators because they feed the myth that submissives are weak, mindless fragile...etc.


Please note i said  many not all.    
 
 



Padriag -> RE: Under Protection (11/18/2006 9:31:09 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: spankmepink11

B) that Dominants are all big bad wolves preying on said weak fragile creatures otherwise known as the submissive.

You mean we aren't?  Damn, there goes my image... [;)]

On a hot summer night would you offer your throat to the wolf with the red roses? -- Meatloaf



spankmepink11 -> RE: Under Protection (11/18/2006 11:13:27 AM)

 Padriag...thatss one of my favorite songs...

Sorry for the sidetrack...



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