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JFK assasination 2nd gunman studied - 11/22/2006 10:51:21 AM   
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Study Backs Theory of 'Grassy Knoll'
New Report Says Second Gunman Fired at Kennedy

By George Lardner Jr.
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, March 26, 2001; Page A03

The House Assassinations Committee may have been right after all: There was a shot from the grassy knoll.

That was the key finding of the congressional investigation that concluded 22 years ago that President John F. Kennedy's murder in Dallas in 1963 was "probably . . . the result of a conspiracy." A shot from the grassy knoll meant that two gunmen must have fired at the president within a split-second sequence. Lee Harvey Oswald, accused of firing three shots at Kennedy from a perch at the Texas School Book Depository, could not have been in two places at once.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/JFK/bbcgrassy.htm

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RE: JFK assasination 2nd gunman studied - 11/22/2006 11:02:31 AM   
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And lets not forget Bobby!
 
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DID CIA KILL BOBBY KENNEDY?
In 1968, Robert Kennedy seemed likely to follow his brother, John, into the White House. Then, on June 6, he was assassinated - apparently by a lone gunman. But Shane O'Sullivan says he has evidence implicating three CIA agents in the murder. Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,1952393,00.html

 
This show appeared on the BBC yesterday. Did anyone see it?

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RE: JFK assasination 2nd gunman studied - 11/22/2006 11:07:25 AM   
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A man who has studied the kennedy assasination at lenght and spent a great deal of time in Dealy Plaza..............

And watched it unfold on a blonde birch cabinet Motorola TV and when the issued the statement looking for Oswald at 9 years old, said to hisself, this don't make a lick of fuckin' sense,
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RE: JFK assasination 2nd gunman studied - 11/22/2006 12:25:27 PM   
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I heard one time that LBJ had a hand in that... any insights?

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RE: JFK assasination 2nd gunman studied - 11/22/2006 12:36:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		I don't believe for one minute that LBJ had anything to do with it.   
 
The question however, is not "who did it", but "who didn't do it?"   
 
Master and I have watched every TV story that has been aired concerning this, we have on tape the original news broadcast from the day it happened, and we have debated this topic amongst ourselves many times over.  
 
I think, ( and this is just my personal opinion) that Lee Harvey Oswald did not do it, but was in fact set up.   By whom I do not know, and we probably will never know. 
I do believe there was more than one bullet, and not one "magic bullet".   
 
ooooo I have something to debate...lol
 
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RE: JFK assasination 2nd gunman studied - 11/22/2006 12:40:00 PM   
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RE: JFK assasination 2nd gunman studied - 11/22/2006 12:43:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

This show appeared on the BBC yesterday. Did anyone see it?


I saw it. It was rather compelling. I never realised that Sirhan couldn't have fired the bullet that killed Bobby Kennedy, I had never heard it mentioned before. It all makes more sense than an assissination by a lone loony tune. Especially when you get to know about the background of the CIA agents who are being implicated in the killing.

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RE: JFK assasination 2nd gunman studied - 11/22/2006 12:51:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		26 years and more ago (before my ex) I used to date a very short guy, 5'4, who claimed he worked for a subsiderary of the CIA and FBI, many years before that.  He showed me checks he'd saved to prove it.  He slept with a gun under his pillow.  Rather an interesting character.  He helped supply guns to Cuba.  He used to be a courier.  He said, yes, it was a conspiracy.  Also about Martin Luther King.  Also about Bobby Kennedy.  He may be dead by now.  But his checks from the US Post Office were real.  Yes, he was a rather interesting character.

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RE: JFK assasination 2nd gunman studied - 11/22/2006 1:18:35 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LotusSong

Sissify,

I heard one time that LBJ had a hand in that... any insights?



I don't know if it was LBJ per se...but elements in the US government? Absolutely.

Same with King and Bobby K.

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RE: JFK assasination 2nd gunman studied - 11/22/2006 1:39:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have seen this film many times, as I am sure you have.   The film is important only because it shows Kennedy actually being shot.  There is much debate about what direction the bullet, (or bullets) came from based on the direction his head was thrown at the time of the shot.  
 
I don't think anything is really conclusive, mainly because much of the "evidence" was either,  tampered with, not collected properly, or just disappeared. 
 
I too have spent time in Dealy Plaza, been to the JFK museum, and studied this quite a bit.  
My opinion is in no way gospel, it is just my opinion. 
 
 
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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

the zapruder film is now available on dvd. Actually has been for some time.

Ron



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I don't know if it was LBJ per se...but elements in the US government? Absolutely.

Same with King and Bobby K.



I also agree with this. 
 

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RE: JFK assasination 2nd gunman studied - 11/22/2006 1:50:13 PM   
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elements in the US government? Absolutely.

here we go again

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RE: JFK assasination 2nd gunman studied - 11/22/2006 1:57:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: swtnsparkling

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elements in the US government? Absolutely.

here we go again


Hey,

If you think governments aren't sponsors of terror or murder..all you need to do is study history.

Check it out.

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RE: JFK assasination 2nd gunman studied - 11/22/2006 1:59:30 PM   
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4757274759497686216

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RE: JFK assasination 2nd gunman studied - 11/22/2006 2:04:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		Does anybody who really knows guns really think one bullet did all the damage to Kennedy and Conally and wasn't badly damaged? How about firing the specific bolt action rifle Oswald used 3 times in the interval documented by the film?

Somebody else fired at least one round from some other location and judging by the post assasination activities I have a strong suspicion that that someone worked for J Edgar.

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RE: JFK assasination 2nd gunman studied - 11/22/2006 2:15:06 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DomKen

Does anybody who really knows guns really think one bullet did all the damage to Kennedy and Conally and wasn't badly damaged? How about firing the specific bolt action rifle Oswald used 3 times in the interval documented by the film?

Somebody else fired at least one round from some other location and judging by the post assasination activities I have a strong suspicion that that someone worked for J Edgar.



I do not believe that ONE bullet did all that damage, I don't think it is possible.   I think most of the facts ( at least the facts that we know)  point to more than one bullet... in fact more than one shooter.   
 
I also am not sure that Oswald was even on the 6th floor when Kennedy was shot.  I am leaning toward someone else being on the 6th floor, and firing the gun. 
 
What post assasination activities are you talking about specifically?    just curious. 
 
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RE: JFK assasination 2nd gunman studied - 11/22/2006 2:16:28 PM   
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RE: JFK assasination 2nd gunman studied - 11/22/2006 2:22:55 PM   
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If you think governments aren't sponsors of terror or murder

Excuse me, but where in my post does it say I don't think Goverments are sponsors of terror or murder?( In fact I do believe some "goverments" are) 
my post was 4 words
here
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RE: JFK assasination 2nd gunman studied - 11/22/2006 2:29:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm 52 yrs old now, and will always remember even as a youngster that day in both history and my life. Now as an adult  still living in Texas who has made numerous trips to the plaza over the years, an avid sportsman, hunter, and gun nut there is no way anyone will ever convince me that there was only one lone shooter. I feel it was at least two and more likely three rifleman that day in the plaza. I believe the film proves that there was more than one shooter and the magic bullet theory just doesn't hold up to anyone who has ever hunted and seen what a bullet looks like after striking flesh and bone.

But as everyone says---This is just my opinion

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RE: JFK assasination 2nd gunman studied - 11/22/2006 2:49:21 PM   
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I always thought that at the very least, elements of the Dallas Police were involved.
How did they "pick up" Oswald so quickly. I believe it is true that Oswald returned home to change his clothes and then , if it was him, appeared to have a rendez-vous with Tippet, which ended  with the Police Officer being shot.

With regard to the shooting, why did Oswald wait until the motorcade had passed directly in front of him, turned to his right and was partially obscured by trees before he began to fire.if he was the ONLY assassin.

Many people thought something had occured on the Grassy Knoll and in fact a Police Officer rode his Motor Cycle in that direction.

There are films in existence pointing towards the Book Depository from the direction of the street that required a left turn to wher Kennedy was shot. Always when broad cast these films are cut short. I wonder why?


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RE: JFK assasination 2nd gunman studied - 11/22/2006 3:08:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: slaveaurora
What post assasination activities are you talking about specifically?    just curious. 
 
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Specifically the way the autopsy was conducted and the unbelievable rulings by the coroner. I've always had a little, ok a lot of, trouble with the claim that the large wound on the back of JFK's skull was the entry wound and the much smaller wound was where the "magic" bullet exited his skull. I used to be a hunter and am a combat veteran and have never seen an animal or human where the entry wound from a bullet was larger than the exit wound.

Then of course is Jack Ruby and how he was in position to kill Oswald. Ruby's connections to both organized crime and the FBI are well documented.

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