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Minor rant, question, geeks ? - 11/23/2006 10:44:32 AM   
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IMO the word geek is no longer derogatory, probably never was except when used by jocks or heads. If it is let me know.

OK, this has happened too many times now. Type up a post and the session times out. I am considering using "Select all" and the Ctrl+C every time just before hitting send. That way I can just drop it into a new window. Actually it is probably a good thing it times out just in case I leave it logged in and leave or something.

The problem today however was worse, and I am trying to figure out why it happened.

Using fast reply I was almost done (one of my shorter posts) and the page refreshed or something and all my text was gone. I am hip to the timeout thing and can deal with it, but this gave no warning whatsoever.

Now I am also aware that this site has some type of autorefresh. I have seen it happen. I don't know if it does it to update the "users viewing" or only for new posts, but when it does does it automatically dump what you have in the fast reply window ? This is the first time this has happened to me. I can understand it though, and if it's how it is so be it, if it is to be more than a few words don't use fast reply.

Other question though, while here I got on to my favorite semi-illegal P2P network which comes with two popups. It is also a resource hog, as it runs I get periodic slight lockups which increase in duration gradually until the system is rebooted, even if I get off it and shut the program down. Even though I have built a few computers, I don't know all that much about software. I am not completely in the dark though, and from what I've read this could be caused by a memory leak, that is an error occurs when a program goes to return the RAM it was using to the system.

Now I know there are people who leave this program running for weeks on end (Bearshare 4.0.5) to download ripped DVDs, ripped miniDVs from people who tape movies in theaters and all that. These files are huge. Now, since the problem gets worse and worse, I would imagine no matter how much RAM you have, it'll catch up sooner or later.

The text you type in the window is in RAM until you hit send. Could this be it ? something like a conflict and Windows (98SE) just dumps it and refreshes the page ? Or is it that someone got a post in edgewise and that refresh is what dumped my text ?

I set up the P2P software to go ahead and be a resource hog, set to primary connection and like a million files at once, because I want the files. Although it rarely even gets close, I let it use like 80% of the available bandwidth.

So should I not run a P2P when on a forum like this or should I avoid using fast reply, or both ? There was a time when I was Da'Downloader. I have around 3,000 songs in the main directory and nearly a thousand more to go in, waiting for me to do the work. I have a whole lot of videos too, I was very serious awhile back. Now it is different. The crowd and I have gotten to the point where it's hard to think of anything else to get. Today one came to me, in case you care it is Alive and Kicking. That is how extensive my collection is. I got R.B Greaves, Gary Puckett, oh yeah. I want the stuff you can't even get on Time Life's 84 CD Master collection from hell for 120 easy payments.

Thing is, when I think of something I want to just get on and download it if available. Once it gets in my head if I can't DL it I will have to pay for it. Then I have to see my music guru. I don't hold him in esteem because he has ten times what I have, alot of it is polkas and all that, I wasn't looking for a collection quite that,,,,,,,diverse. Although now that I think about it a polka or two wouldn't be bad to have. I want a diverse collection, but the focus of the whole thing is oldies, good country and the obscure, but only if it's good. Therefore when I think of something sometimes I have to get on it right away.

Which brings us to the other post, which was in respomse to the "off radar" thread. The reason I have to act on it is I basically can't read or write lol. No joke though, you would never know it until you get a handwritten note from me. I can draw a schematic, design things that work, build, read a ruler. I have no problem with text or typing but I can't even begin to read cursive. I can barely read well formed printing by the human hand.

If you get said handwritten note from me and can read it, it was painstakingly prepared. My signature on checks and the like is more of a mark. It is hard to forge because of the way I hold the pen when I sign. I don't necessarily do this just writing down a part number or a note.

Anyway I think this could be categorized as a cognitive disability, hmmmm, wonder if I can get any money out of this :-)

Anyway, can the P2P network cause this sudden refresh ? Note that the lockups every few seconds lock the whole system including GUI and keyboard. I've seen alot of programs lock up in 98SE, but few of them lockup the GUI. It is a cycle every few seconds, but the duration gradually increases. It gets to the point where you need to do Ctrl+Alt+Dlete alot more than twice to get a good reboot. This is because during these little intermittent lockups the PC is deaf dumb and blind. This behavior has persisted through two motherboards, two different DSL modems and the addition of a router. I have problems with AOL's internal browser now but I don't care, I only use them for email, but this problem came before that. The AOL problem didn't even happen when I changed ISPs and used BYOA, the AOL problem happened when I changed network cards. The lockup problem happened before that.

This is obviously a cascading problem with the resources. Could it maybe be processor time instead of RAM ? This is the kind of stuff I don't know. In any case, I have had three different P2P programs on this OS and they all do the same thing. I had Overnet for a short time, still have WinMX but it won't work anymore, so now I use the Bearshare. However the problem is not peculiar to Bearshare.

So if anyone wants to show off, please do. I am at a loss here. I like to show off especially when it can help someone. I have gotten alot of good answers on forums. One day I replying to someone on an electronics forum and a buddy shows up and says "Something for work ?", I said "No, payback". I was giving an answer. Put it this way, I got alot of answers from that forum and in one case something like "R136, 130K ½W" made my company $300.

So I am not being sarcastic when I say show off. I would love to show off for the R136 guy, and make or save him a bunch of money. If I can't someone else will. Then perhaps I will have that person's answer in the future. Comes around goes around.

Update: OK, the lockups are getting longer in duration. Right now when it locks up apparently it is still able to store keystrokes somewhere. I'll type a few letters and they do not appear, then they do in a second or so. I have let it go longer, and it loses this ability after a while. I must reboot while I still can. There is nothing hot on my list right now, when there was I would let it go, but eventually it will get to the point where the only way to reboot is the power button.

Now I got a guy telling me to get Limewire, I told him I would get it AFTER I cloned the system. But I don't see how it'd be any different. All three I've had have done the same thing.

I was just thinking, this is as about off topic as it gets, lol. But it did start out at least related to ............

Whatever. Really though if anyone has any ideas on how to solve this computer glitch or whatever, I would be glad to hear it.

T
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RE: Minor rant, question, geeks ? - 11/23/2006 1:27:23 PM   
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The forum is making heavy use of javascript and AJAX type magic, which could be contributing - depending on which browser you're running, that might be the trouble.

You might also consider giving the machine a once over with Lavasoft Adaware, an anti virus (AVG free is ok) and so on. Defragment your drive?

If you suspect you have memory issues, you'll be wanting to run memtest. If you think you've just got load issues, try running Prime95, or the Folding@home client to see if you run into troubles.

(I'm not linking any of those, because Google is less lazy than I am)

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RE: Minor rant, question, geeks ? - 11/24/2006 6:37:49 PM   
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I seem to remember win 95 just couldnt handle in excess of 96meg ram, unsure if they cured that feature (assuming im correct and it existed) by 98.

Other tricks include before running a defrag, set virtual memory to 0, reboot in safe mode (press F8 at startup), run defrag (this could be very very slow), reboot, reset virtual memory to auto. defrag will not touch the virtual memory file at all unless you use an expensive 3rd party tool. Sometimes it can help to set the virtual memory to a fixed size rather than auto. I have yet to find a P2P client that does not reduce most of my machines to a crawl, the only ones that can survive more than a day or two are dual processor machines with very large very fast drives allowing for enormous virtual memory files.

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RE: Minor rant, question, geeks ? - 11/24/2006 8:09:43 PM   
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whoaaaaaaa that was long and i got lost when you got technical  - (

All i can say is i know about the refresh thing that loses all the text.  I'd say if you're typing alot of text.. auto copy it before you hit send. 

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RE: Minor rant, question, geeks ? - 11/24/2006 9:55:26 PM   
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Well, yall are going to really think I am crazy, but it is too late to defrag. I got an 80 gig with 55 gigs on it. But then this is not a HD access speed problem. Intemittent lockup, even of the GUI. Now I could most likely unplug my HD right now, continue typing and then send, most likely no problem would be seen right away. Not until it needs files.

I am getting close to loading Linux, I would like to know if it can do Bearshare and Limewire. However this is not going to happen when it runs off the CDROM.

After I do the clone we shall see.

T

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RE: Minor rant, question, geeks ? - 11/24/2006 10:27:27 PM   
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I was pretty active in downloading for a while, nothing like your talking about. But Bearshare, Lime wire and all those aren't very good in my opinion. I haven't even touched those in well over a year, but I got virus laden downloads, fakes, etc... using those programs/networks.
Why don't you use bittorrent. I'm using  it because I download  lost and 24 and wanted to watch it when it wasn't on(not really necessary now as ABC puts them on there website and Fox puts their new shows on myspace, which is cool), I always get up to about a 1.0 megabyte/sec to 1.5 megabytes/sec, the fastest when I had really good seeders was about 2.5 megabytes/sec. Like sometimes I still will download documentaries, a 45 minute documentary downloaded from a good bittorrent site, will take about 10-15 minutes, because it takes a little time to build your peer group. So, unless you have a slow connection I'd suggest getting off those old networks. At least for everything non-audio, but that shouldn't take more than a couple minutes a song if they are seeded well anyway. Never got a virus laden download, or fake on bittorrent. And it's way faster for me, anyway.

Anyway, I wouldn't be suprised if you got some viruses from those downloads, I used to know the names of the networks they connect to, but they are dirty, and full of bad stuff, little wannabe's trying to infect you for shit's and giggles and a bunch of fakes you have to wade through. Not worth it IMHO.

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RE: Minor rant, question, geeks ? - 11/24/2006 10:47:44 PM   
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Bittorrent ? Seems I have heard of that before. After the clone I'll have to give it a try.

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RE: Minor rant, question, geeks ? - 11/24/2006 11:59:28 PM   
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If you do try Bittorrent it's not like lime wire or bearshare. The way it works is there are sites that host links to the "tracker"(basicly a computer running a type of server that keeps track of everyone's downloads) Anyway once you get the software installed(ABC, Azureus--Spelling?--, there are a bunch of variations but they all do the same thing), and you click the link on a bittorrent site the torrent will autolauch the bittorrent client and begin downloading. There are 100's of sites alot of them are speciality sites that cater to one type of content or another. Like anime for example. Some of these sites require you to register(just an e-mail) or they won't let you download.  mininova.org has a bunch of bittorrent sites torrent files gathered there, you can find the host generally by looking at the torrent url. Once you find one that caters to what you like you just go there when you are looking for something.

You'll need winrar, more than likely to decompress any files you download. And probably a CD/DVD emulator program. I always just use Daemon Tools, probably better ones available, but it's free and you can get around the ad-ware it ships with.

Make sure you set up your firewall to let traffic go through, and change the default port number. (Some sites require this, and if don't change the default port after you install ABC, Azureus, etc... they won't let you connect.)


Anyway, it sounds more complicated than it is.

Step 1. Download (ABC, Azureus) etc... (change the port number from default, and setup your firewall).
Step 2. Download winrar
Step 3 Download a cd/dvd emulator program (daemon tools, or some other program like Alcohol)
Step 4 go to a bittorrent site like mininova.org
Step 5 enter search criteria, then search
Step 6 Make note if the tracker is public or private. If it is private, you'll have to go to the trackers site and register for permission to access their tracker.
Step 7 Just click the link of the file you want to download
Step 8 Tell the progra where you want to save it on your local drive
Step 9 Uncompress(most of the time), with winrar
Step 10 Mount if it is a .cue/bin file or .img file, or just click and play if it is a avi., mpg, etc...

That's it.

edited to add....
Just went to mininova it's not wanting to load at the moment. Another torrent site that accumulates other torrent sites links is thepiratebay.org They are about the same really as mininova.

Thanks.


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