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RE: What Do These Things Have In Common? - 3/17/2010 7:31:55 PM   
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RE: What Do These Things Have In Common? - 3/17/2010 7:33:39 PM   
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Hawaii
Guam
Puerto Rico
the Virgin Islands



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RE: What Do These Things Have In Common? - 3/17/2010 7:34:31 PM   
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Nope, Aylee has it wrong this time.


I am NOT!  It did too have to do with taxes.  What do you think tariffs are? A tax levied on a good imported into a country. In most instances, tariffs are intended to make imported goods more expensive and thus less competitive with domestic products.

Edited to add an "o"

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RE: What Do These Things Have In Common? - 3/17/2010 7:36:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LanceHughes

top-o-the-page repeat:

Hawaii
Guam
Puerto Rico
the Virgin Islands




They are surrounded by water?

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RE: What Do These Things Have In Common? - 3/17/2010 7:49:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		They were all U.S. Territories....Hawaii has since become a state, of course...the rest are still Territories.


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RE: What Do These Things Have In Common? - 3/17/2010 7:53:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		Except for Hawaii, they are all self-governing unincorporated territories of the United States - the people are US Citizens but can't vote for President.
 
Now, to include Hawaii, i have to go back to pre-Eisenhower times to find that they were all on the United Nations list of Non-Self-Governing Territories.

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RE: What Do These Things Have In Common? - 3/17/2010 8:00:24 PM   
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Hawaii
Guam
Puerto Rico
the Virgin Islands



They are all islands with US Navel Bases?


Aylee, it's about time that you learned to spell "Naval." <--- NOT derisive, take it the right way!

And 'tis your answer above about Naval Bases for which I was saying you're wrong.  Although <probably> true, this quartet has less than a handful of places that could be added.

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RE: What Do These Things Have In Common? - 3/17/2010 8:11:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		This quartet has nothing to do with the changed status of Hawaii from territory to State.  As a matter of fact, the members of this quartet are "even" in status.  That is: At this time all members of the quartet are the same as to the commomality - do NOT go into the past looking for the commonality..... Here and now!

There are only three more places that could be added, and one of those would "give it away."  The commonality has nothing to do with the ones listed being islands, territories or states.

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RE: What Do These Things Have In Common? - 3/17/2010 8:12:26 PM   
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RE: What Do These Things Have In Common? - 3/17/2010 8:16:54 PM   
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RE: What Do These Things Have In Common? - 3/17/2010 8:21:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		UPS Ground does deliver to one of the three places left out of the quartet I chose..... 7 places, Lance picked 4, specifically leaving out one since it would "give it away" and it would then be solved in record time, I'll bet.

Hidden clues?  Yep!  Lots!!  For example, there is a hidden clue in this post.  You don't want to get too far ahead of yourself, so go back, and take your time to study each post.

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RE: What Do These Things Have In Common? - 3/17/2010 8:23:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		In 2009, the U.S. Mint started issuing quarters under the 2009 District of Columbia and U.S. Territories Program, authorized by the passage of H.R. 2764. This program features the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, American Samoa, Guam, the U.S. Virgin Islands, and Northern Mariana Islands.

The last release of 2008 was Hawaii.

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RE: What Do These Things Have In Common? - 3/17/2010 8:30:04 PM   
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RE: What Do These Things Have In Common? - 3/17/2010 8:32:59 PM   
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Statehood: A Diversion
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Thu Feb 11, 2010 at 00:36:49 AM EST

I'd like to take a moment to wander away from the stressful situation in Congress regarding the most contentious issues of the day. Let's take a look at people outside of the contiguous 48 states, but not just those who enjoy statehood.
Puerto Rico
Guam
The US Virgin Islands
The Northern Mariana Islands
American Samoa

These five places are presently US Territories. They are allowed a non-voting observer in the House of Representatives. During Presidential elections, they enjoy no electoral votes. Their presence in the American political system is token at best.

Tiderion :: Statehood: A Diversion
Puerto Rico has been debating statehood for quite some time now. Puerto Rico was initially taken by force from the Spanish in the Spanish-American War. In 1900, they were granted basic self-rule and observer status in the House of Representatives. In 1917, Puerto Ricans became US Citizens. They can and have been drafted but, unlike most of us, they cannot vote in federal elections. By 1950, Puerto Ricans had total self-rule as a commonwealth and the ability to determine their own fate through referendum. Of course, there were nationalists who initiated violence in response to the possibility of statehood. The island is split generally down the middle regarding statehood versus remaining a commonwealth. At present, a bill promoting referendums is on the table in Congress and will likely pass. This is the direction that should be taken to sort out the status of our territories.
Guam, the US Virgin Islands, and the Northern Mariana Islands are all in a similar boat. They are all lagging far behind Puerto Rico and certainly the rest of the states in determining their political status. American Samoa is not incorporated. While it enjoys a degree of self-rule, there are no laws codifying it. The Northern Mariana Islands have only just sent a representative to Congress. The US Virgin Islands, though self-ruled and represented, has had poor turn out for therefore void referendum elections which produced status quo results. Guam, being the most excited to join the US as a state, in some form, still has not incorporated. All of these would make fine additions to our country and would bring great perspective to our political debate. I will say that I believe all share a common trait and that is they all possess more Democrats than Republicans. From their stories, we see Republicans for what they are.

I want to take a moment to point to the history of Hawaii. Hawaii achieved statehood in 1959. The events leading up to statehood make an amazing tale and one that the Democratic Party should herald as true to our core values. To be brief, the Kingdom of Hawai'i ended in 1893 when a provisional government was declared soon followed by the Republic of Hawaii in 1894 under Sanford Dole and a motley crew of business owners and industrialists. Democratic President Grover Cleveland demanded an investigation into the affair and that the Queen of Hawaii be reinstated. He refused to allow annexation. When Republican President William McKinley came into office, the Republic of Hawaii was annexed as a territory and Dole became its first governor. During its status as a territory, the workers and ethnic Hawaiians were marginalized by the industrial big wigs, the sugar companies, who were Republican. In 1954, through an intense grass roots campaign using nonviolent protesting, a regular cop managed to overthrow the corporate overlords of Hawaii and put Democrats in a majority of offices. The elections ended one-party rule, major corruption and other misuses of power. President Eisenhower signed the bill granting statehood and Hawaii became a reliably multicultural, Democratic paradise.

Like Hawaii, these other territories, if their people will it, should enjoy statehood and the benefits that come with it. I personally believe there is no point in being a territory of the US if you are not actively seeking either statehood or independence. If independence was sought by one of these territories then we should allow that as well.


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RE: What Do These Things Have In Common? - 3/17/2010 8:36:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		Daylight Saving Time is not observed in Hawaii, American Samoa, Guam, Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands and the state of Arizona (with the exception of the Navajo Indian Reservation, which observes Daylight Saving Time).

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RE: What Do These Things Have In Common? - 3/17/2010 8:37:09 PM   
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Aylee, it's about time that you learned to spell "Naval." <--- NOT derisive, take it the right way!

Gosh, imagine that, I spelled something incorrectly.  It is one of those homo things anyways. 

quote:

And 'tis your answer above about Naval Bases for which I was saying you're wrong.  Although <probably> true, this quartet has less than a handful of places that could be added.


I know, but I enjoy taunting you! 

quote:

Hawaii
Guam
Puerto Rico
the Virgin Islands


 
They allow gay marriage?

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RE: What Do These Things Have In Common? - 3/17/2010 8:48:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm guessing it's the Daylight Savings thing and that he was working in a time hint.

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RE: What Do These Things Have In Common? - 3/17/2010 8:56:44 PM   
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I'm guessing it's the Daylight Savings thing and that he was working in a time hint.


I was thinking that "give it away" was the hint, so I thought of marriage. 

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RE: What Do These Things Have In Common? - 3/17/2010 9:37:38 PM   
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For the U.S. and its territories, Daylight Saving Time is NOT observed in Hawaii, American Samoa, Guam, Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, the Commonwealth of Northern Mariana Islands, and Arizona. The Navajo Nation participates in the Daylight Saving Time policy, even in Arizona, due to its large size and location in three states.

ETA: "Time" hints, and "forward" and "back." etc.

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RE: What Do These Things Have In Common? - 3/17/2010 10:04:24 PM   
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The Man
Talia Kozlov
Julia Thorne
Sophia Vargas

Please be specific.

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