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What are signs a person is a dom? - 2/12/2005 2:57:37 PM   
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I've heard of people that have powerful jobs are in fact submisives in the fantasy world. I have also heard of dominates that are shy in person but love to dominate in bed. I am confused, and I want to know how to tell from meeting a guy/going on a date if they have a dominate streak to them, but I am to shy to bluntly ask them.

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RE: What are signs a person is a dom? - 2/12/2005 3:13:57 PM   
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If you are serious about BDSM, go to a local munch. Get infolved in your area BDSM group and meet real live breathing people who are practicing in BDSM, because everyone's differant and generalizations just breed generalizations that are not quite true soemtimes.

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RE: What are signs a person is a dom? - 2/12/2005 5:54:47 PM   
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not everything is as cut and dry.

I am a very laid back person, but am very dominant.
I am unemployed presently, but even once I am back on the constructionsite, I do not change :)

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RE: What are signs a person is a dom? - 2/12/2005 6:01:27 PM   
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I can assure you that there are many variables, not anyone is the same, and Dominance can be measured on a scale of more or less, just like submissiveness. Even the most dominant people sometimes have a bad day or don't feel so dominant. Beware of those that know it all. The more I learn about life the less I know. One can be very dominant and aggressive in private and be a kind gentle person in the world. I belive you have to give a chance to your contacts to find out what they are really like. One other measure is assertiveness, quiet unwavering assertiveness if you can see that, it is a good sign of his maturity.

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RE: What are signs a person is a dom? - 2/12/2005 6:11:21 PM   
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Great advice from all. I would like to add that just because someone is a dominant doesn't mean you personally will see them as such either. I think a lot is based on how a person makes you feel. I guess it's a perception thing....

Jewel

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RE: What are signs a person is a dom? - 2/12/2005 6:51:01 PM   
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In BDSM dominance only refers to their status in a relationship. Dominants can have a variety of personalites and come from all walks of life. We have had a few threads on personality in the past and they always showed a great variety of personalites for both dominants and submissives.

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RE: What are signs a person is a dom? - 2/12/2005 8:40:54 PM   
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Excellent answers and I agree with them all and would like to add that in my own experiences as a Domme that prior to actually practicing the BDSM lifestyle I wanted to be more submissive generally and especially sexually because I was always having to be the "Dominant" in every day life. I felt that the switch in the roles would be good for me but even in trying to be submissive my dominance availed. Then I learned and embraced the BDSM lifestyle and realized that I really just needed to embrace who I am... a DOMME.

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RE: What are signs a person is a dom? - 2/12/2005 8:42:28 PM   
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Slavegirl,

Generally, if I am dating a woman for the first time I check for submission. This involves subtle ways of putting her in a submissive position, such as lightly pulling her hair or gently pinning her hands back during a kiss or a hug. If she reacts positively, then I know it's something to explore. If she gets uncomfortable, then I never go there again. Hope this helps.

Paul

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RE: What are signs a person is a dom? - 2/12/2005 9:46:59 PM   
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slavegrl2244,

You might be interested in this thread: the accidental dominant.

Just to reiterate a blurb from my post on that thread without rehashing the whole thread:

The “socially dominant” are leaders in business, social gatherings, and just have a general aura of strength that draws a lot of people to them. They are often referred to as powerful people.

The “socially submissive” don’t have much power in everyday life and are pretty low key, oftentimes followers, shy or low key.

Both can be “kink dominants” or “kink submissives”.

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RE: What are signs a person is a dom? - 2/12/2005 11:49:16 PM   
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Thre is no sign or lack of sign. One person who is a dominant might not strike any chemistry with you as one, while they might be the perfect dominant for someone else.

Having an aggressive or dominant personality as many good doms are quiet, in the background or shy. As well, many dominant personality people are submissives or vanillas.

The only thing to do is get to know them. Sometimes you can feel chemistry right off, but that's no sign they are "a dominant" only that you have chemistry.


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RE: What are signs a person is a dom? - 2/13/2005 1:21:01 AM   
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I've never seen a Dominant of any flavor hold up a sign.. hmm...

Seriously though, I don't think you're going to have much luck asking random people in the vanilla world if they are Dominant. Don't buy into stereotypes. Some men with high power jobs are sub, some are Dom. It just depends on their personality. You can not look at a man and tell if he is a Dom or sub. Even talking with them through a few dates isn't going to tell you.

ProtagonistLily is very right. Go to a munch and meet people.

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RE: What are signs a person is a dom? - 2/13/2005 9:16:54 AM   
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To shy to ask eh? There's no telling untill you start asking a few questions or see how rough one is in bed or if a Dom approaches you at an event.

If you're out on a date and things are going along you can start asking about being tied up. Or go ahead and be late on purpose or something silly and reply to him "I guess you're gonna have to spank me."
And don't forget the "Oh bite me" comment. Bend over for the spanking and lean over for the bite. Then see how he responds.

They may not be into the lifestyle at all but it's not like you can't introduce him/her to it and see how much they enjoy the Dom role.


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RE: What are signs a person is a dom? - 2/13/2005 9:59:21 AM   
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I actually tried holding up a sign, and it didn’t work out too well. I did however get a lot of people droping money into my doctor’s bag.

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RE: What are signs a person is a dom? - 2/13/2005 3:20:07 PM   
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quote:

I've heard of people that have powerful jobs are in fact submisives in the fantasy world. I have also heard of dominates that are shy in person but love to dominate in bed.


I'd love to question the person who claimed this. Why? Well, it sounds so ludicrous it is funny. If a dominant is only dominant in bed, how would you ever know if they are dominant unless you got into bed with them? Aside from that, in the real world that would make them no more dominant than anyone else in the world.
Being dominant is a way of life. It is a way a person behaves. It isn't all kinky sex. Which is one of the reason's I'd love to question the person who stated it. They are a top...or a bottom.
Also, if they did any research whatsoever on the actual lifestyle they would know the trend does gravitate towards submissives holding very highly regarded positions within the work place. That is easy to find out. Just ask real people in the scene. Do a bit of research. Read a few books.

When I was searching, I devised my own personal test about a dominant. They had to tell me the absolute truth even if it hurt. I would ask them the same question many times over in different ways to be sure I got the same answer. If even once it changed I discarded them. There is absolutely no way in the world I'm going to literally put my life in someones hands who lies.
They had to be able to keep their temper under control at all times. The last thing any sub needs is someone who loses it and kills you. Even reading the boards you can see who is dominant or not. Who loses their temper and starts name calling. Think they would exactly be able to handle you in real life when you do something wrong? Doubtful.

Which, is why I believe we are all on different levels. We all have different emotional IQs we know that for a fact. We all have different intellectual IQs. So, someone can effectively dom a person yet not be able to dom the next person. Why? Different status.

So, in answer to your question you watch how they interact with other's. How they interact with you. Anything getting them mad? Can they control themselves? Do they have integrity? Are they interested in you more than just for kinky sex?

Just a few ideas.

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RE: What are signs a person is a dom? - 2/13/2005 3:27:37 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: slavegrl2244

I've heard of people that have powerful jobs are in fact submisives in the fantasy world. I have also heard of dominates that are shy in person but love to dominate in bed. I am confused, and I want to know how to tell from meeting a guy/going on a date if they have a dominate streak to them, but I am to shy to bluntly ask them.

Help!

-Submisive Girl


From what I've heard from my girl and other submissives, it's something you feel. If just being in his company inspires you to kneel, he's dominant, whether he recognizes it in himself or not. The issue, in my mind, is not the question of dominance, which I think is commonly encountered even within the vanilla community. The real issue is compatability and that becomes apparent over the course of time.
Timothy

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RE: What are signs a person is a dom? - 2/13/2005 3:39:43 PM   
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I'm not sure it is a good idea to try and find a BDSM partner in the vanilla world. I spent a long time thinking that a Dom was in love with me in a vanilla way, because I didn't understand. Now I do, I still have some resentment left that he wasn't open with me. We are still great friends though so it turned out ok. I am actually a Domme and do not keep it secret at all. Now when a man comes on to me who knows I am Domme. I know he is to a certain extent submissive but he may be still a long way from wanting a Domme so it is my place to explain so that he doesn't get the wrong idea. Not very helpful I know but I think that the only place we can be totally honest is on BDSM sites or at BDSM meetings and even then others can get the wrong idea. Lots of discussion before play is my answer.

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RE: What are signs a person is a dom? - 2/13/2005 3:46:04 PM   
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quote:

From what I've heard from my girl and other submissives, it's something you feel. If just being in his company inspires you to kneel, he's dominant, whether he recognizes it in himself or not. The issue, in my mind, is not the question of dominance, which I think is commonly encountered even within the vanilla community. The real issue is compatability and that becomes apparent over the course of time.
Timothy


I so agree with you. There are many that call themselves Dominant that do not conjure up feelings of submission in me. It is a feeling that you get that emanates from that person. I think that what the OP is asking(correct me if I'm wrong) is how she would know if the person before her may be compatible with her. This thread might help.

http://www.collarme.com/forum/m_41420/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#46634

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RE: What are signs a person is a dom? - 2/13/2005 8:16:41 PM   
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There is an interesting site in Australia (http://www.ozabis.info/index.html) which has some excellent articles by the Webmaster on different styles of sub and Dom/me. One of the most useful statements he makes is about the makeup of the term BDSM: BD = Bondage and Discipline; DS = Dominance and submission; and SM is Sadism and Masochism.

Nothing new there for most of us. But many people in the scene are attracted to one or other of those divisions rather than the whole complex. A sadist may call himself a Dominant when in fact he is not Dominant at all, just very good at using the skills that Dominants learn to cause pain within their dynamic. Others are Dominants, but with very little sadism in them. Others are heavily into the bondage area, and may not be Dominant at all, or even sadistic. And the same apples to submissives/masochists/bondage bunnies of either gender.

With that in mind, it is quite common to see someone known as a Dominant and wonder what the hell people are talking about, himself/herself included, because there is no obvious Dominance about him/her. Chances are he/she is a sadist or a bondage lover, not a Dominant.

I am primarily a Dominant (not sure yet about Master, there is a subtle difference, mostly, I think, revolving around the degree of one's desire to control others) with a strong sadistic bent. Bondage is a technique I have learned because many subs need it, but it doesn't do an awful lot for me. But merely causing pain, even as a prelude to sex, doesn't satisfy me either without the sense that I am in the Dominant role in my submissive's eyes.

My slave has said many times that she sensed my dominance from the moment we began corresponding, and was a little overwhelmed by it in person, and I have certainly been a dominant personality for most of my adult life. Others, however, do NOT sense that - as pointed out above, different people cause different reactions. But she finds several of the better-known Dominants on our local scene to be laughable, yet I know subs who have worked with them, who don't find me particularly dominant, who think these men are definitely Dominants.

Others I have looked at and raised an eyebrow over myself - until I see them play, and realise they are skilful sadists. The terminology in our lifestyle is so confusing because it covers so many possibilities, and I haven't even mentioned Top and bottom, which I see as another issue altogether, to do with sensation-seeking and sex, not Dominance and submission. And then there are switches, who I simply don't comprehend at all.

In the final analysis, you can only tell if a man is a Dominant if he makes you feel submissive - which doesn't necessarily mean you fancy him or want to submit to him, just that he triggers that response in you. But looking at dominant personalities in vanilla land isn't going to help you. As so many have said, many lifestyle submissives are dominant personalities, and a merely dominant personality might make an admirable lover, but without a touch of sadism, a touch of the desire to control, and a touch of bastard/bitch, he/she isn't going to make a Dominant.

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RE: What are signs a person is a dom? - 2/13/2005 8:31:44 PM   
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quote:

If you are serious about BDSM, go to a local munch.


I avoid "munches". Too food-oriented.

However, outside of SF, LA, NYC, and London, the kink club scene is rather sparse.

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RE: What are signs a person is a dom? - 2/13/2005 9:51:15 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: GrandpaLash

There is an interesting site in Australia (http://www.ozabis.info/index.html) which has some excellent articles by the Webmaster on different styles of sub and Dom/me. One of the most useful statements he makes is about the makeup of the term BDSM: BD = Bondage and Discipline; DS = Dominance and submission; and SM is Sadism and Masochism.

Nothing new there for most of us. But many people in the scene are attracted to one or other of those divisions rather than the whole complex. A sadist may call himself a Dominant when in fact he is not Dominant at all, just very good at using the skills that Dominants learn to cause pain within their dynamic. Others are Dominants, but with very little sadism in them. Others are heavily into the bondage area, and may not be Dominant at all, or even sadistic. And the same apples to submissives/masochists/bondage bunnies of either gender.

With that in mind, it is quite common to see someone known as a Dominant and wonder what the hell people are talking about, himself/herself included, because there is no obvious Dominance about him/her..........



Yeah, what Lash has said I totally agreee with. And he put it so well, too.

I am not of a dominant personality. Yet, I have known sub/slaves that just being in my presence made them wish to kneel before me. Even I don't understand it. I accept it as what it is for them, without judgement.

Yet, in a relationship, I am dominant. It does take me a short while to get over my initial shyness at first mettings, maybe an hour or so, but I do. It doesn't make me any less of a dominat to those that feel it from me.

The girl I am seeing now, you'd think by the outwardness of her personality that she might be dominant. But she has a deep desire to submit. She does submit to me, quite readily so.

So, as I said in a topic I started, give people a chance to be comfortable with you. You may not see their dominant or submissive nature at first, but, they will show themselves to you.

I don't know how to do the html link stuff, but here is the name and a link if you are interested...
" A few tips for "first meetings" http://www.collarme.com/forum/A_few_tips_for_%22first_meetings%22/m_67217/tm.htm

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