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BlkTallFullfig -> RE: Sex or no? (3/15/2005 9:53:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: othiym
I think St. Thomas Aquinas argued that once the physical boundaries have been breached--love becomes much less spiritual--
how seriously could we take a deity that we could go up to and "hug" every day? I hope that made any sense at all..my apologies..

Lol, I know you didn't write this as a joke, but I don't want to be worshipped so much that he forgets I am a lady with feelings/needs/desires that I want satisfied. To connect with God, I pray, and try to do onto others as I'd have them do onto me, and try benevolence whenever it's not to my detriment;
However, when I call myself Goddess here, I'm not really placing myself up there with the non sinners and the infallible; what fun would that be?

I still think that a sexual connection would not lessen a real man's respect for me, but indeed I accept to each his own. I certainly would have issues with a man who had the Madonna without being able to deal with the whore thing, wink... M



othiym -> RE: Sex or no? (3/15/2005 10:11:03 PM)

I think the difference between this sort of D/s relationship and religion is arguably different. It is simply a perspective, and not even mine. [;)]



onceburned -> RE: Sex or no? (3/15/2005 10:39:51 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BlkTallFullfig
However, when I call myself Goddess here, I'm not really placing myself up there with the non sinners and the infallible; what fun would that be?


You mean that you do not want to be like a marble statue - cold, unfeeling and above it all? Gosh, I can't imagine why. [;)]

I agree with Othiym that there are large differences between D/s and religion. Although there are echoes of the divine/human relationship in both, the quality and quantity differ and we do well to keep in mind that both are human relationships - with all the attendant frailties, strengths and needs.

I think that the relation between the sub and the dominant can participate in the divine - but it is not the same thing.

But hey, weren't we just talking about sex a moment ago? [sm=tongue.gif]



BlkTallFullfig -> RE: Sex or no? (3/16/2005 3:02:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: onceburned
You mean that you do not want to be like a marble statue - cold, unfeeling and above it all? Gosh, I can't imagine why. [;)]

Already told you why, lol.. I like sex.

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I think that the relation between the sub and the dominant can participate in the divine - but it is not the same thing.

I agree completely.

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But hey, weren't we just talking about sex a moment ago? [sm=tongue.gif]

Hey Shy boy, are you flirting with me? LOL[:'(][sm=lol.gif] M



paganpet -> RE: Sex or no? (3/17/2005 11:47:41 AM)

I don't think this is unrealistic at all. There IS a difference in D/s and BDSM definitely however, I think that many subs/slaves DO desire to serve sexually.

personally, when I think of a "slave" (and I do not identify myself as a slave) I think of one who would do ANYTHING to serve and would serve in whatever way his or her Master or Mistress required, whether it be sexual or not.

on a personal level, I live with my Master and while our lifestyle is truly D/s (he handles pretty much every aspect of my life aside from work), we also do have an element of BDSM in the bedroom. For us, though, this is real life. We have a very vanilla life to friends and family, have careers which require us to be vanilla to an extent, but at the end of the day, I go home to him and serve him and end my evenings sitting at his feet.

I don't think you are asking too much at all.



SubbieHubbie -> RE: Sex or no? (3/17/2005 4:02:22 PM)

For me - everything is sensual. Whether I serve sexually, am given a gift of sexual pleasure, or am simply made to go get Her a beer, it is all sensual (well, it would be if she'd really accept her domination... sigh, but that's a whole other conversation). I guess there are some who are not sexual (although that begs the question of what defines the word), but I'm guessing even there they are sensual.

You're not wrong to want a sub who will serve you sensually in the bedroom but live vanilla in the world. That's your natural desire, it's not really right or wrong it simply IS. What that implies, as others have said, is you need to find a sub who matches your desires/needs/wants. Some of us may be non-sexual. Some of us are submissive in all areas of life (when I tried to be Her equal, it led to stupid fights and feeling cut off from myself, it feels natural to me to be submissive to Her). Some of us are only into BDSM in the bedroom. As they say, it takes all sorts.

As to the question raised somewhere above about how we could take a God seriously that we can hug every day - depends on your religion. Us panentheists see the Goddess/God/whatever emodied in everything and thus we CAN embrace our gods daily. It doesn't lessen our respect for them, but possibly increases our respect for our "mundane" world.



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