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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

Mgdartist - you remind me of my neighbour Adrian. He's an artist too, and could have spoken every word of your post.

Except he'd have been drunk.

Can I ask you, is heavy drinking and whatever prevalent in artists? I've discussed with Adrian this question and he reels off lists of artists who were alcoholics, drug users, violent and so on, which I put down to the temperament required to produce art being one of pain, anguish and rage.

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ORIGINAL: meatcleaver

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

Mgdartist - you remind me of my neighbour Adrian. He's an artist too, and could have spoken every word of your post.

Except he'd have been drunk.

Can I ask you, is heavy drinking and whatever prevalent in artists? I've discussed with Adrian this question and he reels off lists of artists who were alcoholics, drug users, violent and so on, which I put down to the temperament required to produce art being one of pain, anguish and rage.

I'm an artist/designer and earn a very decent living from it, though I'm not sure that it is any different from being a car mechanic, it takes all sorts. I know many artists and I can't say I have noticed a particular character trait and there is a lot of competition between artists as to whose work is more relevent. For me, to create decent work you have to cut out all the shite veneer of political correctness and other political and social follies and sensibilities and get down to your essence and that is rarely nice to look at, it is difficult to expose to the world and it is difficult for many to accept because on the whole you are holding up a mirror. But hey, that is just my point of view.

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ORIGINAL: gretchenS

For many artists, the use of alcohol and drugs gives them a light sensation of creativity (I know this by experience) for 5 seconds. And being violent gives them a reason to be discontent towards whatever and have a little of inspiration, specially if they are in the art market and make art under pressure.

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ORIGINAL: pinkkeith

The size of a woman's breasts are not a very big deal to me. I am more attracted to a person's personality more so then their physical appearance.

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

Mgdartist - you remind me of my neighbour Adrian. He's an artist too, and could have spoken every word of your post.

Except he'd have been drunk.

Can I ask you, is heavy drinking and whatever prevalent in artists? I've discussed with Adrian this question and he reels off lists of artists who were alcoholics, drug users, violent and so on, which I put down to the temperament required to produce art being one of pain, anguish and rage.

Thanks
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sorry for the hijack people. Well, I'm not really sorry, but one has to say so I guess.

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ORIGINAL: gretchenS
Before going to college and study design, I had (all my life) a constant flow of incredible inspiration to create all sorts of pieces (paintings, drawings, theatrical plays, written stories, short movies... you name it). When I passed my second year in college I realized this inspiration was gone. Most of my childhood and teenage years I was a very strange, not very social and very apathic girl, so to me life sucked in many ways. Art was a way for me to express my discontent, specially discontent towards society and the educational system. I had my inspiration taken and put on canvas from my anger. Now that life seems to not suck at all, I have low inspiration and no need to make art.

For many artists, the use of alcohol and drugs gives them a light sensation of creativity (I know this by experience) for 5 seconds. And being violent gives them a reason to be discontent towards whatever and have a little of inspiration, specially if they are in the art market and make art under pressure.

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ORIGINAL: mgdartist

Gotta love this forum and it's arrogant, presumptive, labeling, condescending core membership. As an artist I know our ideal role in society is that of the visionary who seeks to speak in the conversation which has been going on for centuries which is in its essence, the avant-garde. All my career I've had to nonetheless deal with the stigma's and stereotypes that very society seeks to impose on visial artists, nor do I villify you for doing so madame, as you are by far not the first. Granted, historically, many artists were known to be self-indulgent, compulsive and self-destructive, and I've learned that their personal predilictions and percieved character flaws were less than irrelevant to the legacy of their genius, which society usually vindictively refuses to recognize till they've passed. So it's always been, and their "pain, anguish and rage" simply called angst, can invariably be traced back to others like yourself, who see them as a threat or pariah, or who perhaps find their vision distasteful, or them personally, and justify judging them by identifying their character flaws and imperfections, and then reach their goal of being superior to them. It's an easy rationale.
But this is all academic, being a time honored tradition, so thanks for playing.
I have no need to defend myself, nor admit my personal imperfections here, knowing it would not make a dent in your preconceptions either way, of me or those like me, in the slightest.
You said my words reminded you of someone I doubt you fully approve of, and if not, you've shown your true colors, since it isnt your place to approve of him or me. And what any of this has to do with men's confessions on breasts, I have failed miserably to see.

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ORIGINAL: meatcleaver

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ORIGINAL: pinkkeith

The size of a woman's breasts are not a very big deal to me. I am more attracted to a person's personality more so then their physical appearance.

That's what the majority say. Meanwhile psychologists insist we are interpreting all sorts of visual information about people, discriminating and making instant decisions on visual cues such as body shape, body language, looks and indeed other physical cues such as smell.

Perhaps we should tell all the universities that run these research programmes that they are wasting their time and money.