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conference records vs. AP Top 25 (new) - 12/4/2006 10:22:32 AM   
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All right people, this time I am going to try to make it a more useful stat by trying to isolate OUT-OF-CONFERENCE games only.  I'm going to do that by taking the overall conference records vs. the AP Top 25, and then removing the inverted in-conference records of all the teams in that conference in the AP Top 25.  Get it?  Doesn't matter, it should work.

So here goes:

Pac-10
Overall: 12-27
Pac-10 in Top 25: USC (7-2), California (7-2), Oregon State (6-3)
Adjusted record: 5-7

Big 10
Overall: 4-27
Big 10 in Top 25: Ohio State (8-0), Wisconsin (7-1), Michigan (7-1)
Adjusted record: 2-5

SEC
Overall: 11-37
SEC in Top 25: Florida (7-1), Tennessee (5-3), Arkansas (7-1), Auburn (6-2), LSU (6-2)
Adjusted record: 2-6

Big 12
Overall: 9-30
Big 12 in Top 25: Nebraska (6-2), Oklahoma (7-1), Texas (6-2), Texas A&M (5-3)
Adjusted record: 1-6

ACC
Overall: 8-24
ACC in Top 25: Wake Forest (6-2), Boston College (5-3), Virginia Tech (6-2)
Adjusted record: 1-7

Big East
Overall: 5-20
Big East in Top 25: Louisville (6-1), Rutgers (5-2), West Virginia (5-2)
Adjusted record: 0-4

What did we learn?

1.  Very few teams play out-of-conference games against the AP Top 25.  Once you remove the in-conference games, only a handful of games remain for the entire conference.

2.  The Pac-10's out-of-conference record against the AP Top 25 is incredible.  They're a tremendously underrated conference.  (Three of those five out-of-conference wins in the Pac-10 belong to USC alone.  That's more than any other CONFERENCE could put together.  Think about that.)

3.  The SEC's record is not incredible.  This confirms what I've thought all along: they're an overrated conference.

4.  The Big East didn't win a single game against the AP Top 25, except when they were knocking each other off.
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RE: conference records vs. AP Top 25 (new) - 12/4/2006 3:32:55 PM   
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I'd dispute the praise of the PAC 10, because USC won almost all of the out of conference games. Take them away, and you have a pedestrian conference.

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RE: conference records vs. AP Top 25 (new) - 12/4/2006 3:41:16 PM   
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They're 2-7 without USC.

But...last I checked, USC is in the Pac-10 too.

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RE: conference records vs. AP Top 25 (new) - 12/4/2006 3:48:09 PM   
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Yes, but one team does not a conference make .
 
And one of those non-conference wins was Oregon against Oklahoma, which is thanks to the refs.
 
Honestly, I don't see any true powerhouse conferences right now.

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RE: conference records vs. AP Top 25 (new) - 12/4/2006 4:47:29 PM   
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You know, by the same argument that one team doth not a conference make, you'd have to take out Tennessee's big win over Cal, and then the SEC is left with one precious win against the AP Top 25...

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RE: conference records vs. AP Top 25 (new) - 12/4/2006 4:49:02 PM   
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i feel so totally educated.  Thank you LaM

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