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Identifying as slave and compulsiveness...linked? - 12/5/2006 6:11:31 AM   
timeoutgurlie


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I just read this link, posted by MasterFireMaam, and hope she won't mind me using it here (if you do, I'll remove it with no problems btw).

This excerpt struck me quite deeply:

"A slave is extraordinary, rare — and most often confused until they discover their slave spirit heart. Most slaves wander through life feeling unfulfilled — as if they have a "dark hole" in their spirit — a hole that can be temporarily filled with an abundance of sex, work, addictive behavior or other whole-life-consuming factors."

The link:

http://www.arizonapowerexchange.org/academy/slave.htm

(Sorry, I don't know how to make them look cool like others do, mine's just a copy/paste  lol)

Do any others find any truth in this?  Or maybe it's just a coincidence for some?

I'd never thought of this before, but feels very true for me personally, very interesting to read it.
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RE: Identifying as slave and compulsiveness...linked? - 12/5/2006 6:44:09 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: timeoutgurlie

I just read this link, posted by MasterFireMaam, and hope she won't mind me using it here (if you do, I'll remove it with no problems btw).

This excerpt struck me quite deeply:

"A slave is extraordinary, rare — and most often confused until they discover their slave spirit heart. Most slaves wander through life feeling unfulfilled — as if they have a "dark hole" in their spirit — a hole that can be temporarily filled with an abundance of sex, work, addictive behavior or other whole-life-consuming factors."

The link:

http://www.arizonapowerexchange.org/academy/slave.htm



take "slave" and replace it with "submissive" and the statement does strike some truth within me as well.  it's an interesting concept...one I will ponder after my 2nd cup of coffee.

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RE: Identifying as slave and compulsiveness...linked? - 12/5/2006 7:10:47 AM   
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I don't mind that you quote someone else. LOL

Having spent time with the person who was quoted, I know that he feels something similar towards Mastery and spiritual connectedness. That there's something missing without it. It might be a small piece for some...and a lot have it without even knowing or acknowledging it.

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In the end, he's talking about each of us finding yourself and what makes you happy and whole. For some, that's being a slave...for others, it's being a Master...for others it's being both.

Master Fire

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RE: Identifying as slave and compulsiveness...linked? - 12/5/2006 7:25:10 AM   
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Until we are true to ourselves, we all walk around with emptiness.  Most people try to fill the hole with relationships and babies and careers. 

One only hopes that eventually they will learn to give themselves the opportunity to not settle and be exactly who they are.

Nothing to do with slavery, everything to do with humanity.

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RE: Identifying as slave and compulsiveness...linked? - 12/5/2006 1:13:58 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: timeoutgurlie


"A slave is extraordinary, rare — and most often confused until they discover their slave spirit heart. Most slaves wander through life feeling unfulfilled — as if they have a "dark hole" in their spirit — a hole that can be temporarily filled with an abundance of sex, work, addictive behavior or other whole-life-consuming factors."

The link:

http://www.arizonapowerexchange.org/academy/slave.htm


I'd


I personally thinks this statement does describe me to a good degree. I do identify with alot. I do not think people should get complusivness confused with OCD.  The two are very different. Otherwise I do find alot of truth within this statement for me.

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RE: Identifying as slave and compulsiveness...linked? - 12/5/2006 1:48:52 PM   
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It absolutely struck a chord with me, timeoutgurlie.

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RE: Identifying as slave and compulsiveness...linked? - 12/5/2006 9:33:29 PM   
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Nope. Being submissive doesn't make me an addict. What it does is makes me bitchy if in a relationship with a man who can't take the lead.

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RE: Identifying as slave and compulsiveness...linked? - 12/5/2006 9:37:45 PM   
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yep thats me.

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RE: Identifying as slave and compulsiveness...linked? - 12/5/2006 9:45:33 PM   
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You highlight the link and "copy" it, just as you'd do to paste it.

Then in your message box, you type a word that you'd like to associate the link with; let's say "here."

Highlight that word.

Go up to the icon that's second from the extreme right on the bottom row--the one that looks like a globe with a chain link under it.

Click it.

Paste your link OVER the "http://" in the space provided (i.e. instead of just pasting it into the message box).

Hit OK.

That should do it.

Example: here

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ORIGINAL: timeoutgurlie

The link:

http://www.arizonapowerexchange.org/academy/slave.htm

(Sorry, I don't know how to make them look cool like others do, mine's just a copy/paste  lol)

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RE: Identifying as slave and compulsiveness...linked? - 12/6/2006 12:58:00 AM   
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Thanks to all who replied, much appreciated.

I didn't explain myself fully in the OP, I was focusing in on the 'compulsiveness' and not so much the rest of the article, though I felt the atricle as a whole was very meaningful.  I just re-read it and the word compulsive actually isn't even mentioned *blushes* that was totally just my own feelings projecting, so my apollogies there.  I've always been a compulsive personality, don't label it "OCD" too often because that has such a severe sound to it, mine would rank rather median on the scale, and this did get easier to "control" per se when I got closer with my partner.

I do definitely agree with those who said that everyone no matter which they identify with, submissive/slave/dominant/master or anything in between, has some emptiness when they're without a satisfying partner.  The Master's Heart article was a good read also

So, sorry for the projection there about the compulsive tendancies, and still very interested in whatever response the article illicits in others

the Lam Man - That sounded way too confusing until I actually tried it in my little reply box here and then it made sense, thanks a bunch.  Is it normal to not be able to edit the OP in a thread?  I don't have the edit option for mine, not sure if that's normal or I just don't have enough posts yet   Will use it in the future though and look smart, thanks *giggles*

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RE: Identifying as slave and compulsiveness...linked? - 12/6/2006 4:56:44 AM   
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This i can identify with...my whole life was spent in denial of my submissiveness and settling for what i thought i deserved and nothing more. When my fragile identity shattered under life circumstances, i was forced to become true to myself or perish. To awaken to one's true self doesn't always make the journey easier, but certainly more rewarding.
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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

Until we are true to ourselves, we all walk around with emptiness.  Most people try to fill the hole with relationships and babies and careers. 

One only hopes that eventually they will learn to give themselves the opportunity to not settle and be exactly who they are.

Nothing to do with slavery, everything to do with humanity.

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RE: Identifying as slave and compulsiveness...linked? - 12/6/2006 6:18:24 AM   
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The edit only works for a short time after you post. Irritates me because I don't notice typos until I come back to a post later but nothing you can do about it.

And I think the emptiness from needing emotional intimacy is not limited to BDSMers. Vanillas have it too.

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RE: Identifying as slave and compulsiveness...linked? - 12/7/2006 3:22:24 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: timeoutgurlie

I didn't explain myself fully in the OP, I was focusing in on the 'compulsiveness' and not so much the rest of the article, though I felt the atricle as a whole was very meaningful.  I just re-read it and the word compulsive actually isn't even mentioned *blushes* that was totally just my own feelings projecting, so my apollogies there.  I've always been a compulsive personality, don't label it "OCD" too often because that has such a severe sound to it, mine would rank rather median on the scale, and this did get easier to "control" per se when I got closer with my partner.



Replace addictions with compulsions and I think you have the same thing.  What I suspect is being referred to is the desire to temporarily fill the "hole" with whatever is available - call it gambling, food, drugs, shopping, washing or booze.  For you it may have been compulsive behaviors like masturbating 10 times a day, for others it may be addictive behaviors like getting high each day.  Get rid of one addiction or compulsion, and until the hole is filled, either depression takes over, or the previous addiction/compulsion must be replaced by another.  I suspect that is the intent that is trying to be conveyed. 

I say all that based on my personal experience as one who has at times found himself acting out in a compulsive manner as well as also having had addictive tendencies for which I'm grateful to have never allowed to completely control my life.  But as I gave up an increasing amount of the former and became more self disciplined.  I did find that eventually I had no options left but to either let myself feel depressed or to deal with the 'hole'.  It isn't always an easy task to have to look in the mirror and see what is there.  You can't be completely honest with anyone else until you can be honest with yourself.  I know that sounds like a cliche', but I can only say I found it very true for me!

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RE: Identifying as slave and compulsiveness...linked? - 12/7/2006 11:36:28 PM   
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dawnt - I agree, which tends to more oten than not be what I feel after reading a post by LuckyA.  Sounds like you personally had a less than smooth personal journey, but have come quite a ways down yoru path and now are finding at least some of that 'full' feeling.  If it's not too personal I'd love to hear more if you'd like to share, but if you went as far into details with your post as you're comfortable with then that was plenty too, appreciate the reply

Celeste43 - Thanks for the info about editing, I knew I'd edited before when I noticed I typed 'fist' rather than 'first' (how embarassing lol ) but couldn't find the button this time.  More on topic, do agree the void feeling is shared by any person, regardless of how they identify any part of their 'lifestyle'

pixels - Thanks for your post, it makes a lot of sense and I'm sure many have experienced the same, I can see that reflected in my own life with work or pursuing any interest I've had at any given time.  Some that would fizzle out very quickly, and I can only guess they were just to fill the void rather than being a sincere interest to begin with.  Getting to the root of the 'hole' is crucial for happiness, I do very much agree, thanks for sharing your thoughts/experiences

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