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RUBondage -> curious (12/5/2006 5:25:25 PM)

I am starting into this as a newbie, and a switch, but with my current hook up, it is as a dom.  What I am wondering is if there are any good guidelines as how to act and be or if it is just completely personal preference.  And if there are any good suggestions for learning how to dom a sub, cause im just making it up as i go, and i kinda feel like i have no idea what im doing.




LTRsubNW -> RE: curious (12/5/2006 5:28:14 PM)

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ORIGINAL: RUBondage

I am starting into this as a newbie, and a switch, but with my current hook up, it is as a dom.  What I am wondering is if there are any good guidelines as how to act and be or if it is just completely personal preference.  And if there are any good suggestions for learning how to dom a sub, cause im just making it up as i go, and i kinda feel like i have no idea what im doing.


The best advice I could give you is, space things out.  For instance, Dom on Saturday, sub on Sunday, then Dom again on Monday, sub on Tuesday and so on.  Always remember, it takes 48 hours for your muscles to rebuild, so you never want to overwork one set over the other.




PiercedDaz -> RE: curious (12/5/2006 5:45:45 PM)

An excellent resource site!

http://www.castlerealm.com/




MasterFireMaam -> RE: curious (12/5/2006 6:34:47 PM)

I learn a lot from books.  If you do as well, skip the porn and, for the most part, the fiction. Read these non-fiction books:
Ties that Bind
SM 101
Screw the Roses, Send Me the Thorns
To Love, To Obey, To Serve
Slavecraft
The Path of Service: Guideposts for Excellence
Loving Dominant
Different Loving (if you can get through it...it can be dry)

If you learn by watching and doing, find a local group and watch people play. When you find someone doing something you like, ask them to show you or talk to you (approach them AFTER the scene, not during!).

Master Fire




Slavetrainer2007 -> RE: curious (12/5/2006 10:38:44 PM)

Reading is a good start and gathering other peoples opinions, views, experiences is also a great compliment to reading actual books on the subject.  As far as how to act, i would say act what feels natural.  Their isnt any "right" way to dom or sub because it all depends on  the persons involved, much like any relationship. I think one of the biggest things is to take your time and explore at your own pace.Dont try to rush it or let someone else rush you into it. As far  as your interest( bondage, humliation, spankings, etc) go , i recommend reading up on those interest, learning some pointers from people who have experienced them., etc to avoid some common "mistakes"

I think taking in other peoples different views and opinions are by far the best resource material, as you gain knowledge from many sources, most of which are first hand experinences( hands on experience).




Archer -> RE: curious (12/5/2006 11:01:30 PM)

WHile individual style changes from person to person there are some basic leadership guidelines that can be found that apply to most situations, and especially to the ones a beginner should be limiting themselves to.
Resources can be found in many places sometimes forgotten about in BDSM, Books on management and leadership have alot that will carry over into BDSM. Take what you find in books with a little salt as authors don't always know everything, Take the stuff you read online with a block of salt because they have even less peer review than authors of actual books in most cases. Make it a habit to questioning sources enough to ensure you don't put more weight to an opinion than it merits.
Research the background of your sources, to help determine the value appropriate for the person's opinions.

Books on projecting confidence through voice and non verbal communication will help make your directives seem natural until you get used to giving them. Stick to the basics until you have that down then you might move on to more complex ideas.
When preparing for time together some idea of what you wish to accomplish during that time is helpfull, too much stiffles creative spontinaity so find the ballance.








BitaTruble -> RE: curious (12/5/2006 11:34:02 PM)

I agree with Archer and would recommend the Tao of Leadership as a good read for those just starting to explore their dominant side. It's easy to read, has a great deal of common sense and wisdom and guides you in the practical application of leadership via inspiration and teamwork.

Alternatively, The Leadership Pickles is an absolute hoot and makes the learning fun! (I'm not sure if that's in book form though.. Himself has the set on DVD from his company.. so you can just google to find out.)

Once you can inspire a submissive to serve you, the rest of it is like falling off a log.

The technical aspects of b/d and s/m can be done in baby steps and at your own pace and some of the books which MasterFireMaam shared are good for the discovery of no strike zones etc. As you progress, you can add to your repertoire with the things of particular interest to you, but the nice thing is.. there's simply no reason to hurry. Be honest with your partners as to your experience level and learn and grow together keeping things fresh and fun. If it's at all possible, try to attend demo's and such in your area and meet with some folks who are already proficient in the specific areas you enjoy. Not everyone is a mentor or teacher, but you're sure to find at least a few people in every crowd who are more than willing to show you their techniques and such. Watch others play, take what 'you' enjoy from it, develop your own style and don't forget that shit happens, but common sense is a great equalizer. :)

Good luck!

Celeste




Petruchio -> RE: curious (12/6/2006 11:18:48 AM)

Hey Bita, been a while.

Good advice is to be yourself. Some will comlain that that's not enough or that you're too much, but that's okay.




BitaTruble -> RE: curious (12/6/2006 11:35:08 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Petruchio

Hey Bita, been a while.

Good advice is to be yourself. Some will comlain that that's not enough or that you're too much, but that's okay.



Hey Petruchio,

You got someone to practice with those cherry stems yet?? [sm=biggrin.gif]

xo

Celeste




DreamWizardNJoy -> RE: curious (12/6/2006 12:13:32 PM)

[sm=hello.gif] Welcome to the boards, and the Lifestyle. Your head must be swimming with ideas, questions, thoughts, etc. Be sure and take the time to reach out, as you are doing, to find answers, while still determining what works for *you*. Please let us know if we can be of any assistance on your journey!

Best regards,
David Dream Wizard and his dreamgirl, joy





PONYSEEKER -> RE: curious (12/6/2006 2:57:31 PM)

Use the boards and keep asking quesitons.




Petruchio -> RE: curious (12/6/2006 3:37:40 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: BitaTruble

Hey Petruchio,

You got someone to practice with those cherry stems yet?? [sm=biggrin.gif]

xo

Celeste


(bow) I thought I had, even expected her to permanently move in, but (sigh) she moved to the Carolinas instead.




RUBondage -> RE: curious (12/11/2006 7:51:09 PM)

thank you for all of the advice it was really helpful




RUBondage -> RE: curious (12/11/2006 7:59:18 PM)

Well im posting again, this time with some questions on activities, me and my friend have been experimenting alot with bondage, spanking, blindfolds and role playing, but we both want more, and I was curious into what other punsihments can be given instead of just hitting.  I was also curious as to humiliation and objectification, I have an idea about what they are but im not quite sure where to start with them.  I was also interested in learning more about the dynamics of a D/s relationship, and how the dom should act toward the sub.  Me and my friend feel like im being to caring, is there any way to get urself to feel more detached or is it just something that u have to practice.  Any advice would be greatly appreciated, thank you




Voltare -> RE: curious (12/13/2006 5:42:20 PM)

I love objectification.  DISCLAIMER: Don't use these techniques.  They aren't suited for anyone.

First, have a chitty chat with your sub, preferably the day or two before you plan to do this (so as not to spoil the actual event.)  Make sure you both know what you can or can't do, what you want and don't want.  I highly encourage the use of a safe word here, as you're both venturing as newbies into unfamiliar territory.  I personally don't like bizzare words like "BananaReflux" so on the occasions I've used them, I tell the girl just to say my real name (since during scenes, my actual name is probably the last thing to fall out of her mouth accidentally.)

For me, it starts like this:  "Girl!  Come here!"  Terrified, gretchen comes, almost like a scared cat (she will look like a scared kitty probably through the whole scene.)  "On your knees!"  She complies.  I start correcting her pose.  "Head up!  Back Straight!  Eyes Forward!"  I encourage her to use good posture with the business end of my belt.  "Hands crossed, behind your back!"  I walk around her, and start peppering her with questions, usually related to small mistakes she's made recently - this is one reason to have small rules around the house, to give fuel for these fires.  " So, what happened to the coffee this morning?"  "Um..."  "No milk??"  "We didn't have...." (I darn well knew we were out of milk) "WE didn't have... WHAT??" "We, uh, were out of..." "OUT OF MILK???"  A fistful of hair later, she's sprawled out against the wall - *CRACK* belt lands on her ass....you get the picture.

Sounds elaborate, but it only takes about 120 seconds or so.  The key here is to keep her off balance, and one step ahead.  A little planning ensures that there's some rope, belt, flogger, etc handy.  Cutting a girl off halfway through her sentences works great for frazzling her nerves.

Objectification in a scene essentially is 'dehumanizing' the sub.  Tearing away their belief that they have 'rights' because they are not human.  They are mere property to be used and abused at your pleasure.  Usually, there's a heavy sexual element here "You're not a lady, you're just three holes to be used" for example.

You might want to browse some BDSM story collections for specific scene ideas.  I don't recommend using it as a basis for relationships, obviously. 

Oh, and do be careful.  You're not playing with matches here, you're playing with a blowtorch.




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