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. - 2/22/2005 4:22:32 PM   
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RE: Is it that strange? - 2/22/2005 4:37:48 PM   
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Seems to me like most of the girls are afraid the master will take control of everything, including who they are. It's hard to convince them that its possible to be completely submissive to a man without squelching or demeaning their personality, but celebrating it. When we think of these things its always good to remember that almost every relationship in every dynamic has these same conflicts. No relationship in history has ever existed without one partner or the other worrying that "they are losing themselves". The thing that sets us apart is that we have established conflict resolution systems. Or should.

Alex.

P.S. (studies on compatibility beginning in the 90s have shown time and time again that the way a couple resolves conflict is more important then what they have in common, or even how different their personalities are. Scientists can now determine with a 70%+ accuracy which relationships will succeed and which will fail based on the conflict resolution style of each partner.)


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RE: Is it that strange? - 2/22/2005 5:09:57 PM   
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I hope to find someone that submits to me, because I've earned it, and not because submission is just what she does to everyone. I need someone strong- powerful all in her own, strong enough to face the world, strong enough to have my back when I need it.


Wonderfully said Topcat.....

I've had many try to convince me that I am a switch because I hold some dominant positions in my vanilla life, yet I know that i am a true submissive, and the One I give my submission to willingly and loyally will know this as well...

I would like to share a quote that I enjoy...I believe it shows a strong woman with submissive needs.

"I do not want to be the leader. I refuse to be the leader. I want to live darkly and richly in my femaleness. I want a man lying over me, always over me. His will, his pleasure, his desire, his life, his work, his sexuality the touchstone, the command, my pivot. I don't mind working, holding my ground intellectually, artistically; but as a woman, oh, God, as a woman I want to be dominated. I don't mind being told to stand on my own feet, not to cling all that I am capable of doing but I am going to be pursued, fucked, possessed by the will of a male at his time, his bidding." -:Anais Nin:-




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RE: Is it that strange? - 2/22/2005 6:15:20 PM   
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I think it's very common in many ways. One who has a demanding existence and controls a lot often wishes to be controlled. I write a column with a question and answer session and many of the submissive's that have written me work with great deals of control and power and need a release. I think the exchange of roles is simply part of the excitement for them. It's of course, not the total standard but more common than you might think!

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RE: Is it that strange? - 2/22/2005 11:25:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: teachmetobeg

Is it so weird for a sub to dominate most areas of her life? The problem I seem to be having is that I have to take control of my own life and that comes through when talking to "prospective" Doms. I can not hide who I am or the trail left behind, so how should this be approached??


I think being in control of one's life is a sign of a healthy life. I am leary of any person that doesn't have their act together enough to sustain themselves at a a reasonable level of comfort. When people are looking for somebody else to fix their problems, it's a sure sign that there are some major problems within themselves.

To me, you being in control of your life is a great and wonderful thing, you don't want or need a knight and shining armor to rescue you. Your life is under your control and you seem to have a high comfort level as well. As a dominant, I'd most like not even tweak things in your life unless totally necessary, but most like praise you for such a wonderful job that you've done and tell you to keep at it and seek my advice when you needed it.

The dominants you keep running into seem to be fools that have issues.

Be Well,

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RE: Is it that strange? - 2/23/2005 8:23:48 AM   
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"letting go" is something that comes w/ time not on demand from any asshole that decides to call him/herself a dom/me. its not something that comes overnight once you meet the 'one'. anyone worth having *imho* should want you to be selective and not fall over your feet for just anyone. ive found so many trolls in my search . ive also found alot that talked a good talk and then disapeared like a fart in the wind.(lol)

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RE: Is it that strange? - 2/23/2005 1:14:20 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: teachmetobeg

Is it so weird for a sub to dominate most areas of her life? The problem I seem to be having is that I have to take control of my own life and that comes through when talking to "prospective" Doms. I can not hide who I am or the trail left behind, so how should this be approached??



Not weird at all, I am a licensed professional and the Matriarch of my family and have come to understand that even in those positions of power and cconfidence, I really serve my family and clients. I also find that being submissive sexually and in my personal life provides a balance so that i can do my work and work with my family better.
good luck. I too am having difficulty finding that one special Dom.
lacyann

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RE: Is it that strange? - 2/23/2005 7:17:18 PM   
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Its not odd, in fact for me it would be a plus, many of the slaves/subs I have worked with had made such a mess of their everday lives it was impossible to succesfuly work with them. First thing I require of slaves is teh ability to function on their own, independatly. So that is a plus. When you kneel before me it should be with pride and strength. Personaly if I desire I can take that strenght from you, usually very quickly once I know a little about you. Most Top quality dominats will allow you to be toppy, and bratty, until the right moment, then the will snatch that away and put you in the mindset they want. One that cannot handle a strong subbie, Well I will leave my thoughts for the moment so not to upset those that cannot handle it.

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RE: Is it that strange? - 2/23/2005 7:38:41 PM   
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Thank Y/you to all who answered. Right about the time i posted this i met a wonderful Dom. He actually does let me get a little bratty at times, but is quickly able to snap me out of it. It does seem to be true that Doms like a girl with a good head on her shoulders!

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RE: Is it that strange? - 2/24/2005 5:11:17 AM   
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Your question is typical of someone who is searching for where they fit into this lifestyle. I asked a similar qustion a year ago. i can't find the thread here. The responses i got were exactly the same tone.
it is not strange, but rather typical .
i wish i could find my thread here, but can't. and i wish i could take credit for the quote i am about to paste, but i can't do that either. This did help me though;


START QUOTE
So, what {persons name left out} mentioned about TIME is extremely accurate. The time needed for your reconciliation between:
'giving up self-control' and 'taking control';
'being yourself '(during the 9 hour workday) and 'being yourself' (during your off work hours) [which is an AGE old problem for ANY worker!]
'showing your BEST qualities' (ie. intelligence, strength) vs. 'allowing your WEAK * qualities' (ie. acting totally submissive to anyone else/ even if you think they're being an idiot!)
The point here, and I'll get into other points in more detail, is that this transition in your personality is something that takes TIME. It's basically a reconditioning of the brain. Rearranging your thought processes. Allowing yourself to slip outside your own personally constructed box.


What I have come out the other side with is basically this:
Your current way of thinking of what a submissive is, I believe, at this point completely wrong!
In order to be a TPE, one absolutely HAS TO BE extremely STRONG, CONFIDENT, INTELLIGENT, and every other quality you seem to think you are giving up by being a submissive.

To be STRONG in mind, body and spirit, in order to control your own thoughts, emotions and physical body. To be able to do tasks assigned to you, to be in the 'proper' frame of mind (ie. wanting to succeed in whatever the Dom asks of you), to be able to "take' whatever physical punishments you may merit (or desire, once you learn to absorb pain, and use it as an intense feeling, which in itself can be very sexually stimulating!).......this takes strength that would make any P.O.W. on the planet envious of your strength should you succeed.

To be CONFIDENT in your own abilities to be honest to your very soul....to look at yourself with your inner eye, and think: WOW! Did I just handle that whipping without using my safe word? Am I really NOT threatened because I acknowlege someone else's control of my time by calling them "Master'? Etc.

To be INTELLIGENT enough to know that being a submissive is truly what you want....even if it's only for a few hours at home and outside of real life. To know when to use your safe words. To know how and who to choose as your Dom (Are they good enough for you). To understand when real life is temporarily too overwhelming and you should NOT 'play' that particular evening.

Basically, being a TPE means throwing out any preconcieved notions you have of who you really are inside, and embracing the journey into finding yourself, using BDSM as your guide. Because BDSM will, ultimately, not only allow you to find that person inside, but the adventure in getting there will absolutely (and satisfyingly!) blow your socks off!

*I say WEAK facetiously, as that is a mental stumbling block many people have when viewing subs. In truth, they are the strongest people out there!

So, I say, take the plunge! Indulge your imagination as if you were a child playing Barbie! Feel silly when you are told to kneel in front of your Dom! It will slowly become habit, and you will finally learn to desire these 'silly' things as your way of getting in tune with, or, 'turning on' the sub within yourself.
END QUOTE


let me reasure you, that it will slowley become a habit, and it WILL start to feel more natural. i hope this helps, and feel free to contact me off list if you want to talk more.

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RE: Is it that strange? - 2/24/2005 8:39:13 AM   
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anyone worth having *imho* should want you to be selective and not fall over your feet for just anyone. ive found so many trolls in my search . ive also found alot that talked a good talk and then disapeared like a fart in the wind.(lol)


You said it , sister!

But I must say that there have been a few walked the walk too. most of the time, I think *I* blew it, becuase they weren't enough of a jerk to jump down my throat. I am working on that

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RE: Is it that strange? - 2/24/2005 10:02:34 AM   
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quote:

Alex.

P.S. (studies on compatibility beginning in the 90s have shown time and time again that the way a couple resolves conflict is more important then what they have in common, or even how different their personalities are. Scientists can now determine with a 70%+ accuracy which relationships will succeed and which will fail based on the conflict resolution style of each partner.)


I'd be interested in seeing some of the text of these studies, as I find it accutely interesting, and have, in my own experiences, felt that conflict resolution, or the ability to mediate conflict has on the whole been much more important in respect to social interaction, be they platonic or intimate. Do you have any links to the primary text for this theory?

Thanks in advance,
Lily

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RE: Is it that strange? - 2/24/2005 9:36:36 PM   
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It is true that how a couple resolves conflict is a good predictor of how their relationship will end up. I have witnessed this time and time again not only in relationships, but also in friendships. If Y/you have ever seen or read (I think it was a book first) "The war of the Roses" it is a perfect example of a couple who just couldn't have creative conflict.
In my studies (especially in Psychology and Sociology), I have learned the better ways to deal with conflict. If only everyone else were so fortunate...

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