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mnottertail -> RE: Does he own my womb? (12/8/2006 11:44:17 AM)
I believe the propster sounds quite sane, and quite cogent and is in no need of worrying over, apparently she has her shit together. Good post dp247365 Ron

SusanofO -> RE: Does he own my womb? (12/8/2006 11:46:14 AM)
Yes, she seems to "have it together". I am glad she brought up the topic, though (I don't see it around these boards very often). For the record, I was not attacking the OP (At all. Hope I made that clear). - Susan

Kalira -> RE: Does he own my womb? (12/8/2006 11:47:21 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail I believe the propster sounds quite sane, and quite cogent and is in no need of worrying over, apparently she has her shit together. Good post dp247365 Ron Ditto though I have to add: THE PROPSTER? LMAO

AquaticSub -> RE: Does he own my womb? (12/8/2006 11:49:15 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SusanofO Yes, she does. I am glad she brought up the topic though (I don't see it around these boards very often). For the record, I was not attacking the OP (At all. Hope I made that clear). - Susan I think he meant Daddysprop, not me. Grins But thanks for thinking I have everything together!

starshineowned -> RE: Does he own my womb? (12/8/2006 11:52:07 AM)
and that would be why? What the hell is wrong with being happy with the degree of choice your willing to give up or keep in a relationship? What the heck is everyone even here for putting a label to anything for if it was not meant to begin with to have some sort of clarification as to where people are going in this life? It only becomes a arguement when you try to make it one and cross paths into area's that your not really willing to go or understand. Sorry your either a slave or you or not, and being a slave comes with certain ground stipulations. Either your a submissive person in a D/s relationship or you are not. It to comes with certain ground stipulations. There is a reasoning and logic for these labels. There is absolutely nothing wrong or good or better or worse or any other such crap in being where your at, and happy with that. It only becomes that when you try to make it that way. If you even bothered to read the whole post inwhich you took this segment from..you'd see exactly my point of making to begin with was to show there is no need to apply some sort of higher or superior road because of the choice you make. Well Wishes starshine Happy slave of Master Delvin

SusanofO -> RE: Does he own my womb? (12/8/2006 11:52:51 AM)
Oh, you're welcome. I really do think it's a good topic. And glad you two were able to work things out. - Susan

drawntothedark -> RE: Does he own my womb? (12/8/2006 11:56:41 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: starshineowned and that would be why? What the hell is wrong with being happy with the degree of choice your willing to give up or keep in a relationship? What the heck is everyone even here for putting a label to anything for if it was not meant to begin with to have some sort of clarification as to where people are going in this life? It only becomes a arguement when you try to make it one and cross paths into area's that your not really willing to go or understand. Sorry your either a slave or you or not, and being a slave comes with certain ground stipulations. Either your a submissive person in a D/s relationship or you are not. It to comes with certain ground stipulations. There is a reasoning and logic for these labels. There is absolutely nothing wrong or good or better or worse or any other such crap in being where your at, and happy with that. It only becomes that when you try to make it that way. If you even bothered to read the whole post inwhich you took this segment from..you'd see exactly my point of making to begin with was to show there is no need to apply some sort of higher or superior road because of the choice you make. Well Wishes starshine Happy slave of Master Delvin Was that in refrence to me......?

drawntothedark -> RE: Does he own my womb? (12/8/2006 12:03:10 PM)
In case it was directed at me. I want to answer before I go to get my hair cut :) I am VERY happy in the level of submission I am in. If I was not I would look to change that. I only said what I said because who is to say that one day I may be in the same mindset as daddysprop. I may one day want to give up all control. I did'nt want and didn't mean for me to seem like I was arguging with anyone. We were discussing this. It's an open forum, I was voicing my views on things. I did not want offend anyone.

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Does he own my womb? (12/8/2006 12:08:27 PM)
Although this thread is a good one to point out that bdsmer's are no more educated or enlightened or more able to deal with sex and sexual issues than any vanilla person.

AquaticSub -> RE: Does he own my womb? (12/8/2006 12:12:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross Although this thread is a good one to point out that bdsmer's are no more educated or enlightened or more able to deal with sex and sexual issues than any vanilla person. chuckles Good point. Wouldn't it be nice if you got a little handbook along with your first riding crop? "How to deal with everything sex will throw at you".

daddysprop247 -> RE: Does he own my womb? (12/8/2006 12:27:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail I believe the propster sounds quite sane, and quite cogent and is in no need of worrying over, apparently she has her shit together. Good post dp247365 Ron lol, thanks Ron. you're pretty alright yourself.

mnottertail -> RE: Does he own my womb? (12/8/2006 12:28:45 PM)
Think of all the trees you would slaughter just covering the basics. The advanced course would require our harvesting forests of other planets. So ---

AquaticSub -> RE: Does he own my womb? (12/8/2006 12:33:40 PM)
Hmm... perhaps it could be put on CDs. I think a series of 50 or so might be able to contain the basics. Might.

MasterHedonic -> RE: Does he own my womb? (12/8/2006 12:35:21 PM)
Hand books are only as good as the people that take the time to read them.

thetammyjo -> RE: Does he own my womb? (12/8/2006 12:42:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DarkkDesires A slave has only two choices.(1) after a time of communication and negotiation the right to choose if she desires to serve. (2) the right to leave the relationship if it might endanger her life or the life of any childen from the relationship. Those are the only two chooses My slave had or has to make. Other then that look at the definition of a slave in any dictionary. If you are a submissive then you live under a whole differant set of rules. *Trust is giving someone the power to completely destroy your world and trusting them not to.* While I'm a big fan of dictionaries... we have temper definitions like this with our social and legal realities. In a society that supports slavery, these definitions work great. When we are dealing with consensual enslavement in a society that does not support it legally or argueably social either then the definition needs to be seriously doubted. The condition of any slave today, including those who really do live with their owner making every and all decisions at all time, is quite different than a slave in the Roman world, the medieval Islamic world or the antebellow South in the USA. I think we do ourselves a great disservice when we confuse our realities with those of people in institutional, historical or legal slavery (pick your term).

thetammyjo -> RE: Does he own my womb? (12/8/2006 12:48:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SusanofO Here's a serious question for all of the "most Domliest Doms" out there (and maybe even submales?): How "manly" are you, really, if your responsibilities supposedly are to be responsible for your submissive or slave's welfare (or "loving" toward your Domme), and you never bring this topic up as a point of discussion? I mean, you are supposedly taking over responsibility for someone else's welfare (or claiming it's "at the top of your priority list"). This is part of that (I think). This doesn't mean the submissive or slave (or Domme) shouldn't bring it up as well, of course. Maybe it is because I was raised a Catholic, but I consider this issue to be "serious business" not just a "we'll cross that bridge if we ever get there" sort of thing. I will get off my soapbox now (sorry to be such a stick-in-the-mud). I know "people make mistakes", etc. I did it, too. But I learned something from it. This really is the kind of situation that can ruin relationships beyond the point of return, and is worth disussing - even if you think discussing it is "risky" and "It'll never happen to me"...Just my "two cents." - Susan I've discussed with with every slave I've owned (those chosen few) -- they were all male but I think it is important to discuss. If I had a female slave, well, I couldn't get her pregnant but I'd still want to discuss the possiblity of her being pregnant in the future. The decision would be reached based on our individual opinions and the economic/emotional condition of my family. In general my standard rules on these matters for my slaves has been 1) don't get anyone pregnant and 2) don't get pregnant. If they is a desire procreate, that is something to be fully discussed at the time such desires arise and evaluated seriously over some time. I do not think it is ever a decision to be taken casually.

MsOpal -> RE: Does he own my womb? (12/8/2006 1:05:09 PM)
From a different standpoint here, just to add to the general conversation on the topic ... I am too old to have a baby, plus there was the cancer just after menopause and th resulting hysterectomy ... so not an issue for me. However, when Daddy and I began to think about opening our relationship to the possibility of a younger "girl" being part of our home and family, Daddy and I discussed quite seriously "what if she got pregnant". My first gut wrenching thought was NO WAY, Jose! Daddy raised my children from a previous marriage, but he and I have no biological offspring. To me having a baby together just adds such an emotional attachment that I cood not bear the thought of HIM sharing THAT with someone else. So, I said it had to be a hard limit, but I also know that no birth control, save total abstinence, is ever 100% (and I had a baby to prove that). SO, what would I expect him/them to do if she got pregnant accidentally - or even on ourpose to "get" him? Made me think a lot. Finally, I decided, for me, for us ... that a baby is a baby is a baby and I love them. I love children and no matter the how or who or why, if I was secure enough with my Daddy's love to want to open my heart to another girl, then if a baby were to "come along" I would love it because, well, it is a baby and it would still be part of him. Of course we did agree that he did not want to raise another child (at our age) so any girl would need to accept that upon becoming part of our family. but if it happened there would be no ultimatums from me. Just a wandering thought onsort of the topic! MsOpal

SusanofO -> RE: Does he own my womb? (12/8/2006 1:10:16 PM)
thetammyjo: I had a feeling you would discuss this with your slaves. You strike me as the "responsible type". Touche'! And good for MsOpal, too. Guess I am a bit "judgemental" on this topic (but, we all have been gieven a brain so we can use it, have we not)? - Susan

sophia37 -> RE: Does he own my womb? (12/8/2006 1:31:48 PM)
I must say, when it comes to pregnancy, you just cant know how you'd feel until it happens to you. You may have rationalized it completely in advance and come to some very common sense desicions. But then suddenly you get pregnant, even if youve taken every precaution agaisnt it. Now what? Its not the same thing all of a sudden. Like marraige, its never what you thought. I know. It happend to me. After 3 births I thought I was done. and oops. Baby number 4 comes along. Being logical I aborted. Big mistake. Dom/Sub. You may have it all thought out. But if it happens all the thoughts get tossed out the window. For some women it becomes more than a male female relationship thing. It becomes an act of god. Remember, your hormones go nuts right from the get go. I say and truly believe to those women who get pregnant and are unsure or are in crisis, call birthright. Or call some other counseling center. Planned parenthood. Preganancy changes everything. It changes your life if you keep, it adopt it out, or have an abortion. It changes everything way down deep.

slo18 -> RE: Does he own my womb? (12/8/2006 2:02:36 PM)
add me to the "scared" list. my Dom and I had a scare last week that set off a long list of discussions, we had discussed previosly that I do want children and as a one of my personal limits there would be no abortion or adoption if i were to be come pregnant. and he agreed to that. he also agreed that if I were to become pregnant while with him ( that means its his since we arnt poly or swingers) that he would take an active part and be a father to the child even if we never married. but the scare still set off a flurry of discusssion and fear on my part because discussing something isnt the same thing as "oh my god This MIGHT BE REAL!!" personaly this is one of the things that has lead me to understant that i could never be a slave. I could never give up that kind of control and be able to live with the desision he made if it didnt agree with my own feelings.

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