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MadameMonique -> RE: Does he own my womb? (12/9/2006 1:13:52 AM)
Wow. What a thought prevoking thread. As I am the Dominate and the woman, if it were to happen (which is unlikley [but not impossible] for medical reasons) The decision would be mine and mine alone. Whist I may concider the opinions/feelings of the sperm doner they wouldn't weight heavily in the decision making process. I am not in a realationship at present so if I were to have a scare there is no doubt in my mind what decision I would make at this point in my life.

Sinergy -> RE: Does he own my womb? (12/9/2006 1:18:40 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MagiksSlave only thing that is 100% is abstanance Magik's slave True enough. I will explain that to rape and incest survivors who become pregnant to stop their endless whining about the life growing in their uterus. Sinergy

eyesopened -> RE: Does he own my womb? (12/9/2006 2:11:41 AM)
A Master should have control over His slave's reproduction? Why not have control over His OWN reproduction? i have never understood this, it's as if only females reproduce. i clearly do not understand why in this modern age men are still afraid of vasectomies. A Master made his slave get "spayed" because it was "easier"? Vasectomy is always easier than a tubal but i digress. i have held firm this one thing.... that i cannot surrender that for which my Master cannot or will not be responsible. That would include my reproductive life (luckily i am beyond reproduction) as well as my existing unmentionables and grand-unmentionable. It also includes my job, my car and anything else i own or to which i am emtionally attached. i cannot surrender it to His control if He is not willing to be responsible for it. For this reason i have never considered myself a slave although i have been told time and time again that i have a slave's heart. i simply have not found One who is willing to handle so much responsibility. Gentlemen, please, if you know you don't want any unmentionables, get a vascetomy already! Every man i know who's had one said it was quick, easy and sitting on ice for a day was well worth it.

mons -> RE: Does he own my womb? (12/9/2006 3:10:18 AM)
greetings your body is still yours when it come to that. another thing him not marrying you if i were you i would not have childern by someone who does not love you and the baby enough to marry you. many men doms and vanilla talk big but unlike woman we love the baby the moment it is in our womb some men can love it then but must can not even go this far men a visual thinker they must see it to love it. i trust no one who would not marry the mother of their child they say they love you so love you more. giving a baby up for adoption is so hard and abortion is so hard practie safe, do you will not find yourself in a position. do not let any man tell you it is only a piece of paper it is much more when he decide to leave and take the house and car and yes leave you with nothing i am not a man hater i seen this happen so much to direction woman too many heart aches they trusted the man so much love is like that take care and god luck mons

AquaticSub -> RE: Does he own my womb? (12/9/2006 9:54:41 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sinergy quote: ORIGINAL: MagiksSlave only thing that is 100% is abstanance Magik's slave True enough. I will explain that to rape and incest survivors who become pregnant to stop their endless whining about the life growing in their uterus. Sinergy Right now the question is about consentual sex, so that's bringing a bunch of completely unrelated issues. Something interesting to think about, but no doubt deserving of it's own thread.

AquaticSub -> RE: Does he own my womb? (12/9/2006 9:59:06 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mons greetings your body is still yours when it come to that. another thing him not marrying you if i were you i would not have childern by someone who does not love you and the baby enough to marry you. many men doms and vanilla talk big but unlike woman we love the baby the moment it is in our womb some men can love it then but must can not even go this far men a visual thinker they must see it to love it. i trust no one who would not marry the mother of their child they say they love you so love you more. giving a baby up for adoption is so hard and abortion is so hard practie safe, do you will not find yourself in a position. do not let any man tell you it is only a piece of paper it is much more when he decide to leave and take the house and car and yes leave you with nothing i am not a man hater i seen this happen so much to direction woman too many heart aches they trusted the man so much love is like that take care and god luck mons I'm 21. He's 22. He just graduated and I'm in college, trying to get out. While a part of me would like to get married to him if we are with child, most of me realizes that I'm not ready to walk down the aisle yet. He knows himself more then I know myself sometimes and he is very sure that he is not ready to be a husband yet. We aren't ready to be parents yet, but if we are then we will find a way to be ready because we will do what is needed for our child. But that doesn't mean we should get married prematurely. We feel we are too young to make this commitment and we have only been dating a year. If I am with child, this is about as unplanned as you get short of rape. Perhaps in another year we can talk of wedding bells. Perhaps.

MagiksSlave -> RE: Does he own my womb? (12/9/2006 11:07:01 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: daddysprop247 it doesn't matter what scenario you present, the fact that i am property does not change. His will is law...period. OK so you would have a child that would do nothing but suffer their entire short lives just because he said so?? Ok Im sorry and I know this is going to sound like Im bashing you and Im really trying not to but I cant wrap my head around how sick that is.. edited to add... the baby did not agree to be part of your BDSM lives!! Magik's slave

MagiksSlave -> RE: Does he own my womb? (12/9/2006 11:08:15 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sinergy quote: ORIGINAL: MagiksSlave only thing that is 100% is abstanance Magik's slave True enough. I will explain that to rape and incest survivors who become pregnant to stop their endless whining about the life growing in their uterus. Sinergy Sir I wasnt takeing into acount rape and such Sir.. those are extenuating sercomstances in which it would be an unwanted pregnansy that the mother had no foult in. Magik's slave

daddysprop247 -> RE: Does he own my womb? (12/9/2006 11:11:55 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MagiksSlave quote: ORIGINAL: daddysprop247 it doesn't matter what scenario you present, the fact that i am property does not change. His will is law...period. OK so you would have a child that would do nothing but suffer their entire short lives just because he said so?? Ok Im sorry and I know this is going to sound like Im bashing you and Im really trying not to but I cant wrap my head around how sick that is.. Magik's slave well sometimes there are things we just cannot understand. for instance, i can't wrap my head around someone referring to themselves as slave, yet frequently and passionately proclaiming all the things they will not do or tolerate for their Owner. shrug

MagiksSlave -> RE: Does he own my womb? (12/9/2006 11:14:10 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: daddysprop247 Magik's slave well sometimes there are things we just cannot understand. for instance, i can't wrap my head around someone referring to themselves as slave, yet frequently and passionately proclaiming all the things they will not do or tolerate for their Owner. shrug I have my morals and since my morals mesh with my Masters morals there is no problem and I am indeed a slave to him I do everything and anything he says and I know in my heart he would never order me to do something that would hurt me or others emotionaly of physicaly... You seem to wish to take a total lack of responsability by claiming you have no choise,,, however not makeing a choise IS makeing a choice!! Magik's slave

ownedgirlie -> RE: Does he own my womb? (12/9/2006 11:22:50 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MagiksSlave I have my morals and since my morals mesh with my Masters morals there is no problem and I am indeed a slave to him I do everything and anything he says and I know in my heart he would never order me to do something that would hurt me or others emotionaly of physicaly... You seem to wish to take a total lack of responsability by claiming you have no choise,,, however not makeing a choise IS makeing a choice!! Magik's slave From an observer's perspective, this post is insulting to me. Your moral mesh with your Masters - great. Her morals mesh with her Masters...but not so great in your eyes, eh? My morals mesh with my Master's. But if you disagreed with them you would stand on your pixel pulpet and criticize me as well?

MagiksSlave -> RE: Does he own my womb? (12/9/2006 11:27:11 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie quote: ORIGINAL: MagiksSlave I have my morals and since my morals mesh with my Masters morals there is no problem and I am indeed a slave to him I do everything and anything he says and I know in my heart he would never order me to do something that would hurt me or others emotionaly of physicaly... You seem to wish to take a total lack of responsability by claiming you have no choise,,, however not makeing a choise IS makeing a choice!! Magik's slave From an observer's perspective, this post is insulting to me. Your moral mesh with your Masters - great. Her morals mesh with her Masters...but not so great in your eyes, eh? My morals mesh with my Master's. But if you disagreed with them you would stand on your pixel pulpet and criticize me as well? I didnt say she had no morals and Im not stadning on a pulpet or preaching Im rather trying understand something that seems to have no logic IMO that is.. it works for them fine I dont agree with the way they do things and it is aparent she doesnt agree with how I do things eather.. However to act that way when you bring the thought of a child that is not consenting into the pic as hypothetical as that it may be to me that shows a lack of morals in conserns with the safety of a new life... that is my opinion it is how I feel I am pationate about it and thats it. Magik's slave

ownedgirlie -> RE: Does he own my womb? (12/9/2006 11:52:48 AM)
Please look at your words. First a judgment and condemnation of her level of responsibility and ability to make decisions in her dynamic: "You seem to wish to take a total lack of responsability by claiming you have no choise" Then while you say: "I didnt say she had no morals..." you counter it by saying: "However to act that way....shows a lack of morals" The inconsisteny can be confusing.

MagiksSlave -> RE: Does he own my womb? (12/9/2006 11:56:59 AM)
read what ever you want into what I sayed doesnt change how I feel about any of it. I wasnt beeing inconsistent I feel she shows no morals IN THAT area not all area i never sayed she had no morals I dont know her save for words on a screen so there for i make my judgments based on said words period the end Magik's slave

beticat -> RE: Does he own my womb? (12/9/2006 12:23:41 PM)
I will second Sophia here. After I became sexually active in high school, I gave this question some thought. I figured I would just have an abortion if it ever happened. When I was 22, I got pregnant with my boyfriend of about a year. I discovered that I could not have an abortion. I made an appointment for the surgery and went in for the pre-op and couldn't stop crying. Pretty clearly having an abortion wasn't going to be the right decision for me. I was in college at the time and didn't want to be 'Mom'. The father didn't want to be 'Dad' either. We went through a private adoption agency and were able to choose the parents. I have never regretted that decision. Which isn't to say that this shouldn't be discussed ~ it needs to be. The awareness needs to be there tho, that what sounded fine before pregnancy became a reality may not turn out to be okay.

CreativeDominant -> RE: Does he own my womb? (12/9/2006 12:46:26 PM)
It's been interesting to read through the replies here. Thankfully, your scare was just that...a scare. I think the best advice given on here is for any couple that is embarking on a relationship in which intercourse is going to be a part of that relationship *better do some serious talking re: the pregnancy issue.* Cuz it does happen...even with birth control. I know...my oldest unmentionable will be making me a first-time grandpa at the end of February. She will be 22 next month and only has one more semester of college. The father works. She was on birth control...supposed to be really effective but not 100%. Luckily, they'd discussed what would happen if this ever hit them soooooooo...though thrown for a loop, they have adjusted and are prepping for it. I've found the slave's replies to be most interesting...on one hand you have a slave who states that her owner's will is law. On the other, you have a slave who states that, in this area of her life, she makes the choice and if her owner doesn't agree with it, then he wasn't the right owner all along...interesting dichotomy of perspectives from two slaves.

MagiksSlave -> RE: Does he own my womb? (12/9/2006 12:52:25 PM)
Creative Sir... does that make me less of a slave becuase I have these issues?? Magik's slave

AquaticSub -> RE: Does he own my womb? (12/9/2006 1:00:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: daddysprop247 quote: ORIGINAL: MagiksSlave quote: ORIGINAL: daddysprop247 it doesn't matter what scenario you present, the fact that i am property does not change. His will is law...period. OK so you would have a child that would do nothing but suffer their entire short lives just because he said so?? Ok Im sorry and I know this is going to sound like Im bashing you and Im really trying not to but I cant wrap my head around how sick that is.. Magik's slave well sometimes there are things we just cannot understand. for instance, i can't wrap my head around someone referring to themselves as slave, yet frequently and passionately proclaiming all the things they will not do or tolerate for their Owner. shrug One thing you do need to remember about this lifestyle is there is no wrong or right way. There is only what works for those involved. What you have works for you. What she has works for her. Remember that some masters actually don't like slaves with your level of thoughtless submission. Some masters actually like it when slaves have a will of their own.

AquaticSub -> RE: Does he own my womb? (12/9/2006 1:03:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MagiksSlave Creative Sir... does that make me less of a slave becuase I have these issues?? Magik's slave pokepoke Be nice, he never said that. He just said it was interesting to see the two different points of view.

MagiksSlave -> RE: Does he own my womb? (12/9/2006 1:11:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AquaticSub quote: ORIGINAL: MagiksSlave Creative Sir... does that make me less of a slave becuase I have these issues?? Magik's slave pokepoke Be nice, he never said that. He just said it was interesting to see the two different points of view. :P I was beeing nice... but I am curioouse if people think that makes me a "fake" Magik's slave

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